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er feeling a little paranoid !
I removed some insulation from the side of my campervan the owner or whoever converted must of put it there.
In total I removed about half a shopping bags worth, the rear door and side door where open and I was sitting at the back so pretty much outside.
Wasn't flaky more like wadding
thinking about it now I should have put a mask on.
Is there likely to be asbestos in there ? Or am I being very paranoid ?
Also breathing in some of the fibers cant be safe ?
Any sensible advice taken as feeling panicky.
Thanks in advance
Calm down, dear. You won't die from this (probably).
You will die. That is 100% certain.
Fibre glass insulation and MDF are classed as the new asbestosis of the future.
Both give you that itchy feeling on your skin, have a shower dont rub arms or exposed skin, just let the water run down you , wear overalls and gloves and face mask along with googles.
I refuse to work anywhere near or with fibreglass insulation due to the irritation it causes.
You'll be fine
unless it was Asbestos!!!
If you are NOT a smoker, the scillia in your lungs will move any inhaled fibres up your trachea and you will cough/gob them out over the next few weeks.
You smoke and the tar will fix-em in for ever ... Your choice
or something like that !!!
Wow. Project. Straight in with unfounded PANIC right there.
Wear gloves for handling it, wear a dust mask if handling a lot & in a confined space. You moved a tiny quantity and unless it was ANCIENT it's made from fibreglass.
It's fine to work with if you keep skin covered and use a dust mask if using a lot of it. A shopping bag is not a lot. Insulating an attic is a lot.
According to hse site it wouldn't have asbestos and ive not smoked for 6 years
So less panaking
HazardsIt is important for InterNACHI inspectors to understand the health risks associated with exposure to fiberglass insulation. These risks are not, at present, fully understood or agreed upon, but it is generally accepted that, in certain situations, it has the potential to cause physical harm. Small particles that come into contact with skin can lodge in pores and cause itchiness, rashes and irritation. When inhaled, particles can cause coughing, nosebleeds, and other respiratory ailments. Very fine airborne particles are capable of becoming deeply lodged in the lungs and are believed by many to cause cancer and other serious afflictions. OSHA considers this threat to be serious enough that it requires fiberglass insulation to carry a cancer warning label.
When it is disturbed, fiberglass insulation releases particulates into the air which may be inhaled by those installing or removing it, or by property inspectors crawling through attics or crawlspaces.
If you must disturb fiberglass insulation, wear gloves, long-sleeved shirts, pants and goggles. A respirator with a particulate filter should be used to prevent inhalation of the potentially dangerous fibers.
Before removing fiberglass insulation, it is a good idea to dampen the area to prevent particles from entering the airspace. Afterwards, wash your hands with water, preferably cold water, as warm water can expand pores which have trapped particles and allow them to travel deeper into your skin.
Google "inhaling glass"
Thanks project I feel better...
I guess if and when remove more I will mask up, as I was outside and it was a tiny amount I shall try and remain calm.
I work with it all the time,I wear a mask but I find the best way to use it is just to wear shorts and nothing else,sounds daft I know but once it's ingrained into your clothes and it starts rubbing your buggered
I think the OP will probably be ok. It is worth noting with asbestos that the cilia in the lungs/windpipe will not clear this back out (depending on particle size). If a small enough fibre of asbestos gets into the lung, that's it, it's there forever. It never comes back out (while the inhaler is alive anyway). This is why, if you're unlucky enough, even a small exposure to asbestos can lead to mesothelioma (cases of which are still on the rise in the UK and will be for at least another decade) in later life. I'm not sure about fibreglass, but where it's concerned, given the lies that were told about asbestos for decades, I'd take the same precautions as I would if I was dealing with asbestos. YMMV of course.
If a small enough fibre of asbestos gets into the lung, that's it, it's there forever [snip] I'm not sure about fibreglass...
Fibreglass and mineral wool both get broken down by the body.
No need to panic*, OP.
*But you will die.
I worked for a full summer stacking the stuff in the 70s with no protective equipment at all. I'm still alive and in good health.
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I think people get a bit excited by asbestos, it was everywhere to one degree or another, insulation, brake pads, building materials etc.
Lots of guys were working with it day in day out and have been fine. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been banned or that you shouldn't take every precaution with it but i think people over rate the likelihood of exposure causing a problem to the casual DIYer.
It comes up in every survey that there maybe some in the artex but you don't hear about lots of dead plasterers and ripping down a ceiling in an old house isn't the death sentence that some people would have you believe.
Sorry d4 your are talking out of your arse. Mesothelioma and asbestosis can take 20-40 years to a manifest many folks Working with abestos have tended to die of other natural causes before something with a more sinister morphology appeared in the their lungs or pleural cavity. Also woth bearing jn mind that smokes arw significantly more arw risk and the ammount of people who smoked then there will have been a alot of death attributed to smoking related lung cancer which could have had additional factors. If it was so harmless really, there woyld not have been clear casea where wives of chaps who worked asbestps dies of asbestos related disease through only having exposure to fibres from washing their husbands work wear. You want to work with asbestos....make sure you are already in your 70's as something else will kill you first.
We use to play with both fibre glass and asbestos when we kids. Looking forward to a bit of COPD, keeping sheep unprotected too just for good measure.
I like the way project quotes an American organization on the topic. However, let's be proportional here. As it says
in certain situations, it has the potential to cause physical harm
Yes it has. Same as anything else. However, let's look at the proportional risk and give some sane sensible advice to the OP. It's like someone asking if a glass of wine a night is OK and you rolling out the health risks of alcoholism. If he keeps doing what he is doing with some PPE he'll be fine.
I Agree with ricky1. Minimal clothing works best for me. I don't get the itchies that way.
The worst I had it was nettiing glass insulation above my head under the floor of a Victorian riverside office building whilst lying in rat piss soaked insulation in between the basement and the office. The total height of the crawlspace was under three foot and it was a scorching mid summer, but for that job I had a full face mask, an air supply and overalls.
I have never itched so much or needed so many showers to feel clean since.
Oh, and I don't think I'm dead. So the OP will probably survive.