Saying he's backing a bloke over the road from us to be voted in as local councillor.
So I stuck a note on it which said, 'I'd rather have a swordfight with an octopus than vote tory, I'm a prison officer, my wife's a nurse & my stepdaughter is a teacher, from no 3'. I've stuck it back through his letterbox. 😈
That sounds like a fair and reasonable response to me. 😆
Did you run a blacklight over the leaflet before touching it? You can't be too careful.
They've been out in force round here too.
The local Tory MP has a Mini-Me Councillor who follows him around. He's about 25 years younger but dresses exactly the same, has the same hairstyle, wears the same style of brown shoes.
It's a very safe seat so I get the impression Mini-Me is being groomed for the hotseat in 5 years time.
You sound like a nightmare neighbour.
davidtaylforth - Member
You sound like a nightmare neighbour.
He's probably got a flagpole in the garden as well.
Haha!
With twelve gold stars on it I imagine. Bloody Remoaners....
Every election our local tory mp turns up at my shop with the man from the evening standard in tow.
I shall enjoy giving some juicy sound bites.
I've got Ode To Joy lined up to play when he comes in.
Are octopussessess really good at sword fights then?
I mean, you wouldn't have expected them to be particularly good at fighting would you? In fact you might even accuse them of being completley spineless!
Are octopussessess really good at sword fights then?
I believe they are a bit handy
I received one from the two Labour candidates. I emailed them both, individually, thanking them for their time in producing the leaflet but explaining that while Jeremy Corbyn continues to lead the party I feel unable to vote for them, and will therefore be voting Green.
Neither bothered to even acknowledge the emails, which kind of cemented my decision. If they ignore contact at a time when they need public support, it strikes me that they'll be even more difficult to get hold of if elected.
Are octopussessess really good at sword fights then?
Lots of armies
Got a note from the tory MP, as he won't answer questions about his expenses he can go jump. He is/was on the list under investigation.
All i asked was is he still under investigation or has he been cleared, so would assume that is non prejudicial?
Really hoping "Absent Ansell" turns up on my door. The only time I've seen her in the media is when the nutter threatened to kill her on FB. She is a stealth MP. I'll take great delight in informing her I've first hand experience of the Tories killing the NHS and Teaching. I'll follow it up at some length on the defiences of the F-35 and what are they going to do about it. I'll also want to know what her stance was on the council trying to flog off local down land.
But knowing my luck she'll turn up when I'm busting for a poo or dinner has just been served.
If they ignore contact at a time when they need public support
I know ignore the contact from someone who says they wont vote for them ....how dumb of them to not immediately contact you 😕
E-mail again and say you might vote for them and see what happens
Our Tory council candidate would struggle to hold a conversation with a 6 year old, let alone adults. I also know him, and asked a few pertinent questions about local issues. He couldn't answer.
Our Tory MP has flier dropped twice, and both times suggested he is near enough the messiah, as long as we trust him...
I even got a 'personal' letter from Ruth Davidson this morning, but sent to 'the addressee'.
Nice try.
I'm a prison officer, my wife's a nurse & my stepdaughter is a teacher, from no 3'. I've stuck it back through his letterbox.
I have a theory that for some people, however awful things get even in ther own jobs it just reinforces whatever political convicions they have. I was discussing the state of the prison service with a recently retired wing governor (ie not the whole prison, but a pretty eyebrow-raising wing it was), wife worked in schools, son is police staff. You'd think tha having seen all three workplaces have the arse ripped out of them by Grayling, Gove and May this would not be a tory household. Governor says events continue to maintain him feeling (I quote) "slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun". 😕
There are posters on here (and on this very thread) who could have Theresa May* or indeed JC turn up on their doorstep and take a dump on it and they would still support them.
*TBF given her limited appearances surrounded only by party activists and inded paid actors of you believe twitter, the chances of Theresa May turning up on [b]any[/b] doorstep that has not been extensively vetted by Coservative HQ, and has had the street cleared of undersirables and guardian/indy/mirror journalists is about zero.
Flaperon - Not voting Labour 'cos you don't like Corbyn is like burning your house down because you don't like the curtains
would you really rather a tory government?
Flaperon - Not voting Labour 'cos you don't like Corbyn is like burning your house down because you don't like the curtainswould you really rather a tory government?
Hmmm....yes. I'm no Corbyn fan, but the current shower of Tory cartoons are about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle - strong and stable leadership, my a**e!
I live a very, very safe seat*. Consequently we never have canvassers for any of the parties for local or national elections, nor much literature through the door. Shame, it might be quite entertaining to discuss policies on the doorstep.
* i have just checked and the last time it was anything other than Tory was in 1906 (Liberal) unless you count the very brief time the sitting MP changed his party Whip mid parliament ( and subseqently lost the next election)
Please someone... If you are door stepped by Teresa May with a camera crew in tow... Ask her....
Oh, day off from running the Death Star then....?
That would hopefully make the 6pm news...
I wrote to my MP asking why she was supporting the Brexit bill when the constituency that elected her and that she purports to represent had overwhelmingly voted to remain, and got a mealy mouthed template response in return that failed to address specific questions sufficiently to make me think it was just a cut and paste from the whips office.
I also wrote to her asking her to tell Liam Fox in no uncertain terms that if he feels that we (as a country) have shared values with Duterte then he is very much mistaken. I haven't had a response.
We're an interesting case - 'safe' Tory last time with LD a far second place, the time before was close-ish, (1000 or so votes) and the time before that was Libdem. So I suspect last time's landslide was an anti-LD protest. And given we were strong remain, she might not be sleeping easily these next few weeks.
She certainly won't be getting my vote, and I'd have great pleasure in telling her why if she should come calling.
If you are voting Lib, now is an excellent time to join the party.
Help them help us or at very least piss off a tory.
https://libdems.secure.force.com/LiberalDemocrats/NewMemberRegistration
that while Jeremy Corbyn continues to lead the party I feel unable to vote for them, and will therefore be voting Green
That's interesting, considering that Corbyn comes across as more Green than red. I'm a member of the Green Party but I'd be delighted if Labour (under Corbyn) get in, or a combination/coalition thereof.
Wouldn't it be better if we all [s]infiltrated[/s] joined the Tories instead? Take them out from the inside, one at a time if need be.
zippykona - Member
If you are voting Lib, now is an excellent time to join the party.
Help them help us or at very least piss off a tory.
Done.
I doubt I'll get a visit from any Party where I live, but should any pop round I'll be happy to let them know my feelings.
Wouldn't it be better if we all infiltrated joined the Tories instead? Take them out from the inside, one at a time if need be.
Good idea - next time there is a leadership campaign you could cripple them with a joke candidate who had no chance of winning the election
There's precedence for this 😀
You sound like a nightmare neighbour.
You sound like you don't know me.
He's probably got a flagpole in the garden as well.
I probably haven't. (in fact I definately haven't)
With twelve gold stars on it I imagine.
Now your'e just being silly.
Thing is with this area, you could put a blue tie on a monkey & people would vote for it.
Told my children to vote labour - last chance they will have in a generation
That's interesting, considering that Corbyn comes across as more Green than red. I'm a member of the Green Party but I'd be delighted if Labour (under Corbyn) get in, or a combination/coalition thereof.
I discontinued my green party membership for Labour after Corbyn got in: with labour policies/manifesto under milliband, the greens were closest to my own views (I even did that political 'who to vote for survey to check..) but actually Corbyn's version of labour has policies even more in line with my views. It would be the same for me if the policies were similar enough even under one of the less popular (with members) leadership contenders...
Remember under FTPT we are not voting in a head of stae but a government: the party chooses its leader and PM and can (and do! Brown, Major, May...) change them between elections whatever the electorate do or don't say: we are supposed to be voting for local MP's and policies their parties support: (curiously there are reports by the torygraph that there isn't even the word 'conservative' on some of the 'vote may' posters bandies about in constituencies where may is clearly not on the ballot paper) - for all we know if she does win, in a couple of years May might still disappear in puff of poisonous smoke after she has a toys/pram/brexit crisis.
I don't have a TV, and don't buy many newspapers. I see that TM spoke to an invited audience in a closed village hall in Crathes, a crossroads near Aberdeen with no mobile coverage.
So in the MSM, how has this been presented? All that I've seen on t'interwebs so far is urine extraction.
Green member here, dont trust the Labour Party as far as i could throw them while Blairite Progress members still hold the whip hand.
I will be holding my nose and voting Labour though. This country cant take another 5 years of social vandalism and corporate manslaughter under Tory stewardship
Told my children to vote labour - last chance they will have in a generation
Shouldn't they be free to decide for themselves?
Only if given an insight into Politics and each parties policies and ethics.
Otherwise a lot of kids just vote the same as thier parents.
[quote=bikebouy said]Only if given an insight into Politics and each parties policies and ethics.
Otherwise a lot of kids just vote the same as thier parents.
Told my children to vote labour
Shouldn't they be free to decide for themselves?
If their great grandfather voted Labour, then so should they. Obviously.
know ignore the contact from someone who says they wont vote for them ....how dumb of them to not immediately contact you
Why would you contact someone who *is* going to vote for you? The work's already done...
Reasons for responding to someone who explains why they're not planning to vote for you? Many.
1. It's polite.
2. You might be able to change their mind.
3. I doubt I'm unique, so it helps to gather statistics.
4. If they replied saying they agreed with me, then I might vote for them on the basis they would try to get rid of Corbyn from within.
The absolute least you'd do is have a stock "piss off" response that you can copy and paste into the email.
i imagine they reply to those who are voting for them to say thanks as its polite and i said try this
E-mail again and say you might vote for them and see what happens
Its a popularity contests and if some tells you they wont be giving you their vote it wouldn't be that wise to focus time and attention- NB there will be vast numbers of such voters contacting each party at this time some say they will never vote for you, some say they are not voting for you , some say they might some say they are
Which do you think make the most sense to focus on ?
slowoldgit - MemberI don't have a TV, and don't buy many newspapers. I see that TM spoke to an invited audience in a closed village hall in Crathes, a crossroads near Aberdeen with no mobile coverage.
So in the MSM, how has this been presented? All that I've seen on t'interwebs so far is urine extraction.
Exactly how you'd expect- "May goes to Scotland and has succesful event, STRONG AND STABLE, polls commissioned by the Times suggest they may possibly get a staggering 7 seats which will humiliate the SNP who are only on track to win a laughable 52, STABLE AND STRONG".
Tory Surrey here and like most elections before I'll never see anyone Tory knocking on doors and barely any leaflets. They don't need to bother. Tory faithful vote in whatever idiot they've placed here regardless.
Labour would never vote for though. I'd go for Lib Dems, but I'm not so keen on their local policies round my way.
Labour stronghold around my way,North East,but the local labour councillor is feeling a bit nervous.Many long time Labour voters will be turning to the Conservatives and they'll pick up UKIP votes.
Ignoring the telling your kids how to vote (sadly this is how too much of the country works) - why would this be their last chance in a generation? Will there be no candidates next time round? Will the alternatives make such a good job in the next five years that it will be inconceivable to vote them out?
We're in a former relatively safe Labour seat, which now looks set to turn blue. I'm in the local Green Party and we're getting huge amounts of flack over our decision to stand a candidate, despite our current MP being the one whose email saying Darlington wouldn't vote for her if Corbyn was leader being read out my the PM the other week.
I was leafleting for Durham Greens today, for this week's council election. Strava'd it too, so it definitely happened - https://www.strava.com/activities/964467537
why would this be their last chance in a generation?
Labour will self-destruct after this election.
Actually, they've been doing so for the last seven years; hence the likelihood of a Tory landslide.
Whos about to self destruct?
Looks like the Tory sleaze is coming home to roost - again
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/04/30/theresa-may-under-investigation-re-brexit-profits/
Ulysse, even though I'd love that's to be true, that site looks a load of shit.
Hes been mostly bang on the money for the last 5 years, have a trawl through his previous posts...
I hope so.
All im saying is i only know of one post of his so far to be erroneously copied from a false news source, and that was apolagised for and very publicly retracted within minutes
A LITTLE ABOUT THE SKWAWKBOX AND THE AIM OF THIS BLOGThe SKWAWKBOX is written to try to present information and analysis that will rarely make it into the mainstream media because it doesn’t fit their agenda and the narrative they want to present.
Sometimes, the media do catch up later. This blog has broken some major stories over the years that the media has caught onto later.
The debunking of the ‘Mid Staffs NHS scandal’, supposedly involving ‘400-1200 needless deaths’ was a statistical misrepresentation combined with a political agenda that involved ‘perhaps one’ avoidable death. At the time, all the media were singing from the same hymnsheet, but eventually the Guardian, Independent and Huffington Post all caught on. Sadly, many of the other newspapers and broadcasters still parrot a thoroughly-discredited line.
Fake psych tests imposed on jobseekers, with threats if they didn’t comply; Labour party plots and attempted coups; and latterly UKIP – the huge fraud investigations and lies about Hillsborough. The media eventually caught up on those as well.
Others are still waiting. New evidence of army dressed as police at Orgreave; Tony Blair’s and John Major’s involvement in passing off military personnel as police during their years in office; Tory lies on their NHS spending; investigations into UKIP’s distribution of child pornography – some of this was covered by the larger independent platforms such as the Canary, but the mainstream hasn’t seen fit to touch them, even though the evidence is cast-iron.
as these tweets by political commentators suggest:
Political commentators? Priceless.
An ex-hooker cashing in her revenge chips and a party tweetbot. Laughable.
When it comes from reputable sources, let's have another look.
I love it when the pollies come a-knocking.
Listen politely, disagree only mildly or ask for further explanation, get their hopes up, then finish with "You've got some good points there, but I have to put my country first. Maybe after independence...."
If it's SNP I'll grill them on their tendency to centralise everything and cycling infrastructure.
[quote=tjagain ]Flaperon - Not voting [s]Labour[/s] Lib Dem 'cos you don't like [s]Corbyn[/s] Farron is like burning your house down because you don't like the curtains
OP should be glad he only got one flyer. Between general election and local council elections i can barely get the damn things into the paper bin before the next one comes through.
Getting to the stage i'd happily vote for the ones that stopped shoving 5 leaflets a day through the door....