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My thoughts are that.... I hope it comes as some solace to her family and friends that she past away surrounded by Love.
Having run London on Sunday I can tell you that the support, encouragement and genuine love shown by the crowd to all the runners be they family, friends or strangers is something to behold, a truly wonderful thing...
(maybe it’s that spirit is now being show again on her justgiving page)
A hundred meter before she came to rest she would have past Big Ben, one of the highlights of the course, I hope she felt as I did… super happy that she’d nearly completed her marathon and had time to take in the wonderful atmosphere of the crowd and fellow runners.
My race went perfectly, I had the most amazing day and I feel even more lucky to have had such a great time in light of this sad news. So I’m going to do a little tribute run, at lunch time, to a fellow London Marathon runner…. down embankment, right at Big Ben then down Birdcage to place a flower somewhere appropriate.
Pass me a bucket...
re: the OP, I really don't see a problem with this.
OP, feeling like a bit of a churlish arse yet?
I spoke to him yesterday, and while the family are completely devastated, they are absolutely overwhelmed by this phenomenon and it’s providing huge comfort at such a desperate time for them.
"OP, feeling like a bit of a churlish arse yet?"
No not at all, I was never questioning the womans motives, her personality etc etc. I just dont get why so many people are suddenly giving money to the Samaritans when they wouldn't have done if she hadnt have died.
"OP, feeling like a bit of a churlish arse yet?"No not at all, I was never questioning the womans motives, her personality etc etc. I just dont get why so many people are suddenly giving money to the Samaritans when they wouldn't have done if she hadnt have died
I dont believe you should feel churlish
there are kids with cancer who are trying to raise money and will never get a look in I know of one very very heart renching story and that little girl has been trying to raise 500k for nearly a year to save her life, which will probably be too late
some bird dies running through her own choice and raises 300k in 2 days
So I’m going to do a little tribute run, at lunch time, to a fellow London Marathon runner…. down embankment, right at Big Ben then down Birdcage [b]to place a flower somewhere appropriate.[/b]
In a litter bin?
If the money raised was for some dubious cause (like Kony) you might have a point. I don't know much about the Samaritans but it seems like a good thing unles s you know any different?
some bird dies running through her own choice and raises 300k in 2 days
Yes, it's simply [i]awful[/i] isn't it?
"Yes, it's simply awful isn't it? "
Yeah just like last weeks news when it was simply awful that rich people donate money to charity for tax releif purposes.
Cake and eat indeed.
Eh?
Not aimed at your personally Grum, but theres a lot of, its all for charity whats the problem, which in fairness there isnt a problem.
However for some reason rich people giving money to charity is bad.
[i]there are kids with cancer who are trying to raise money and will never get a look in I know of one very very heart renching story and that little girl has been trying to raise 500k for nearly a year to save her life, which will probably be too late[/i]
As far as I can tell from recent events, if she times it right and dies while doing it, she'll easy hit her target.
As far as I can tell from recent events, if she times it right and dies while doing it, she'll easy hit her target
What truely awful thing to say 🙄
Jeebus, this place never ceases to amaze. People felt compelled to give some money after a young woman dies trying to raise some money for charity, only this forum could somehow turn it into a moaning fest about people giving money to charity.
🙄
There are some properly twisted people on here at the moment. But like the poster a bit further up said having all these donations come in are helping the family deal with the horrible reality of losing someone then send more donations. And I agree with ton.
not sure of anyone elses motives/opinions on this but I'm intetrested/bemused/dissapointed in the disparity between good looking lass dies during a televised event and get's a fortune donated v.quickly, poor kid dying in anonymity has difficulty raising money (as per compositepros example). It's a media thing innit?
Both valid cases not saying either deserve more or less money/media than the other.
Some things just "click" with the general public and [s]everyone[/s] a lot of people are empathised/peer pressured/whatever into giving money and there's an outpouring of emotion. Is it just the media leading the public or vice versa? or bit of both?
I'm running the london marathon for Samaritans because they continuously support others
That's from her just giving page, that's all she stated no pleading, no look at me aren't I great, just a pure & simple altruistic action for which she paid the ultimate price.
I was just called cynical. Fair point maybe I've turned into a cynical man.
I said the only reason this has got legs is because she is a woman, young and pretty good looking.
Terrible thing to pass away. But I doubt the rest of the world would have donated as much had she not been as pretty.
[i]What truely awful thing to say [/i]
personally I think it's truely awful that people donate money in memory of a dead woman instead of towards a young girl who could live. But hey, perhaps that's just me.
there really are some arseholes on this thread.
lets all have a good laugh about the dead and the dying. good on you guys.
It's inevitable that given the publicity the deceased runner would earn some extra donations for her cause, and it's not a bad thing.
The BBC quoted some people as saying "she's an inspiration". I hope this isn't really what they meant...
I would, well would've
personally I think it's truely awful that people donate money in memory of a dead woman instead of towards a young girl who could live. But hey, perhaps that's just me.
You do realise that the money donated isn't actually going to a dead woman and is in fact being giving to The Samaritans? Who support an enourmously wide range of causes, no doubt including, directly or indirectly young girls coping with difficult or life-changing circumstances?
The whole point of charity is it is inclusive and goes to everyone in need, not a few select causes.
Found out a short while ago I was at the same wedding as this young lady in Portugal about 18 months ago. I was also watching the race very close to where she died but was unaware until later.
The groom at the wedding did some mtb. I recall a number of the tables had Welsh trail centre names. Looks like a relative of the unfortunate young lady was on the Llandegla table:
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Real people, people. Real people with family, friends, lives that have been touched. A bit soon isn't it? Tough crowd on here.
"So I’m going to do a little tribute run, at lunch time, to a fellow London Marathon runner…. down embankment, right at Big Ben then down Birdcage to place a flower somewhere appropriate.
In a litter bin? "
Nope ... sorry to disappoint.
Found some other "littering landfill tossfest..." so added to the collection.
There really are some charmless whelks on here
Some pretty harsh comments on this thread 😕 and I agree completely with Ton.
My suggestion of a just giving page for when trolls frequent this forum was missed.
But this thread is full of it so we would have hit our targets already.
Can I make a suggestion to the mods though, do you think it would be a good idea to remove any names or specific references to the lady who died? I'm sure you don't really want to end up high on the search rankings for any related search strings...wouldn't be a good publicity for the forum or magazine for people to see the dregs of the STW society in this thread.
I'm glad so many STWers agree that this thread is disgusting. I assume that the 'trolls' or callous human beings have not lost someone, and certainly not lost someone so young. I hope you never have to feel that pain.
If for one moment you can try and empathize with another person, with a family that has just lost a young woman, then maybe you would understand that although a death is a tragedy, that there is some small comfort if some good can come out of it, such as money towards a charity.
If this is a troll I suggest you get it deleted.
This thread is great. The Sanctimonious Sentimentalists vs The Callous Cynics. I'm just sorry I don't got any popcorn.
As the OP can I just say that some of you are missing the point I was making. Yes its sad for the friends and family of the woman (not me, I didn't know her) and it must be a truly awful time for them. But I have not once said anything for or against the woman.
However, the point I was making that I think its disgusting that some one dies and then people start dishing money out to charity. The fact is if she hadn't of died she would have raised about £500 !
I still think Diana PoW has a lot to answer for though with the UK's passion for dead people.
[i]The Sanctimonious Sentimentalists vs The Callous Cynics[/i]
[harry hill voice]
But which is best?
[/harry hill voice]
Nice thought rosey.
I was down there on Sunday as my wife ran the marathon, a great event. I'm glad I still have my wife around, one family is not so lucky.
The overall mortality rate from the 20 years is one in 67,414, or roughly one death for every two million miles run:
2 million miles, at 10mins/mile = 20,000,000 minutes = 333,333 hours.
be interesting to know what the mortality rate for the same number of hours lived of non-marathon runners might be?
660,000 hours.
[i]660,000 hours. [/i]
so, in that many hours how many people under, say, 50 might be expected to die?
660,000 = 75 years, in hours.
it seems that 1 runner dies for every 333,333 hours of running, but 1 person dies for every 660,000 hours of being alive.
i have no idea what this shows...
FunkyDunc - yes a lot of people in here have missed the point, looking through their veil of grief for somebody they have never met.
I am interested how you know that Diana had a passion for dead people - are you in touch with her ? Would you you be able to pass on a message for me ?
I think the point I was trying to make was in response to 'someone dies every year' and show that this was not only untrue but that mortality for Marathon runners is actually less than for the population as a whole over the same period of time. Probably.
a lot of people in here have missed the point, looking through their veil of grief for somebody they have never met.
I'm not grieving for her, no I have never met her. However, I have empathy for the people that she has left behind.
"I am interested how you know that Diana had a passion for dead people "
Nooo she was the first person that everyone thought that they could get on the band wagon with, and feel deeply moved by her death, before that people died and life went on as normal, since then (predominantly when the press get hold of it) some one dies and the whole nation has to have a group hug for them, even if the week before they would have passed them on the street without giving two hoots about them, let alone going for a tribute run in their memory and laying flowers. (that bit moved me to tears)
[i]Nooo she was the first person that everyone thought that could get on the band wagon with and feel deeply moved by her death[/i]
Churchill seemed to get a bit of a send off?
[i]
A total of 321,360 people filed past the catafalque during the three days of lying-in-state.
Today, millions around the world watched the funeral procession at home and abroad as television pictures were beamed from 40 BBC cameras placed along the route.
The mourners were led by Sir Winston's wife, Lady Clementine Churchill, his son Randolph and daughters Mary Soames and Lady Sarah Audley. The Queen and other members of the royal family, the Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, and representatives of 112 countries packed into the cathedral for the service.
The funeral cortege was accompanied by a 19-gun salute and an RAF fly-past as it began the journey to Sir Winston's final resting place. At Tower Hill, the coffin was piped aboard the launch Havengore for the voyage up the Thames.
From Waterloo, it was placed onto a train drawn by a Battle of Britain locomotive named Winston Churchill. Thousands gathered to pay tribute at wayside stations.[/i]
I'm with you on feeling uncomfortable that the media have clearly run with this because she was so pretty, I sort of agree about a culture of over-sentimentality at times, but.......
However, the point I was making that I think its disgusting that some one dies and then people start dishing money out to charity. The fact is if she hadn't of died she would have raised about £500 !
In what way is it disgusting for people to give to charity when they wouldn't have done otherwise? Especially as you seem to be in favour of rich people doing it just to get a tax break. 😕
"even if the week before they would have passed them on the street without giving two hoots about them, let alone going for a tribute run in their memory and laying flowers. (that bit moved me to tears)"
True... but like people have said a pretty girl, so think I might have done.
I was going to run to Big Ben anyway this afternoon, to remember what a great time I had on Sunday. Just thought I'd extend it to pay my respects to a fellow competitor. Then thought I'll be going past Embankment tube I'll pick some flowers up as a sign of that respect.
Guess my mistake, was stating it on here... although think I've got off pretty lightly... maybe most think it was a decent thing to do... if a bit soppy.
(You can always tell when your right on here you dont get "come back")
My apologies for not checking the marathon death statistics, so on average someone dies every 2-3 yrs. doing the L.M.
Thats nice to know Ro5ey. Perhaps we should all be right silently, it's the perfect solution. No come back = must be right.
I'm being totally right about absolutely everything in the world, quietly, at my own desk at this very moment. So take that internet haterz !!
(actually the BBC website says 11 people died on sunday at the London Marathon they are generally a trusted source. But perhaps some of them were spectators, and not good looking female or young)