[Closed] Humans are a Plague on Earth.

It takes a special sort of mind to take "We should reduce or stop our rate of expansion" and conclude that the end result is extinction.

It takes an even worse one to take "Our population is increasing....we must enact policies to drastically cut human population".... based on crap scientific data.

And it takes a particularly nasty kind of human being to consider overpopulation as more of a problem than over consumption.

bwaarp - Member

And it takes a particularly nasty kind of human being to consider overpopulation as more of a problem than over consumption.

Where did I say it's more of a problem? But clearly they're inseperable.

FWIW- when someone points out you've said something daft, pointing to someone else and saying "they said something daft too" isn't a very compelling defence.

Having said that we don't need to resort to drastic reduction of capitalism, all we need to do is use government legislation to drive the r&d and production of greener technology and or programs that reduce consumption by increasing recycling.

No. Capitalism is based upon growth. GDP needs to be abandoned and another value used - it is no longer valid. Believing that advances in technology and more recycling can fix this mess is a blinkered dream.

Well said.

Just a thought... Earth's land area: 150,000,000 sq km... Population: 6,700,000,000... Area per person: 22,000 sq m... even if just 10% is usable that's 2,200 sq m per person..

You only need 4 acres to feed someone....less if we go GMO big time.

4 acres is 16,200m^2.....

bwaarp, i did not mean to sound as though i agree with Bill Gates or think war is a good thing, i was implying that those who believe in population reduction through covert vaccination etc also think wars are an effective measure.
Personally i'm sick watching America and lap dog Britain marching into manufactured wars to find another pot of gold.
I recently read that there have now been in excess of 60,000 deaths in these "wars" and that aprox 90% are innocent civilians. Thats the same as 20 9/11 attacks and hardly a word about it in mainstream media,it's disgusting !!!
I still believe that a section of society who have no means to support themselves should NOT be having more and more children for tax payers to support. If they do, then they should accept that they will be raising this family in poverty.
This planet has enough resources to go around atm, but world leaders know that whether you're managing a country or the global population, you need to have the poor all the way up to the rich or it dont work.

Curious that he chose to use Ethiopian famine as a case to prove his point as that had far more to do with decades of civil war rather than overpopulation.