[Closed] Huey Morgan losing the plot on Buzzcocks!

I watched it on Monday and was simultaneously confused about what he was getting so upset about and reinforced in my belief that he's actually a bit of a **** (post-Laverne twitter shenanigans). I also thought the young hippy hoppy Rizlas dealt with it quite entertainingly.

Really? He looked like a petulant teenager.

i saw this on monday and thought it was a bit weird, something may have been lost in the editing?
still not as funny as when Preston from 'The Ordinary Boys' stormed off

The look on Phil Jupitus's face convinced me it wasnt scripted..
He was acting like a moody teenager.. used to think he was a bit of a dude but not any more.. ****.

I thought it may have been a set up, or that Huey was doing it intentionally at least. His manner/actions look a bit forced. But, I agree with this too:

The look on Phil Jupitus's face convinced me it wasnt scripted..

Incidentally, I met him while staying at Mal in Glasgow a long time ago. He was finishing up a call on his mobile outside, I said hello and he started a conversation. Thought he was a really nice bloke actually!

Ok so the format is a bit tired but he's a fanny! Still, he plays good music on Saturdays now.

It did make me wonder what was missed but even so he came across like a bit of a cock.

Laverne twitter shenanigans?

Very odd behaviour - just seemed in a monumentally bad mood. He's kind of right about how tired the format is though, but then he shouldn't have taken the gig if he doesn't like it.

His show is still one of the better things on 6Music.

grum - Member

Laverne twitter shenanigans?

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/may/15/huey-morgan-twitter-rant ]This[/url]

Sometimes you get a guest on the show that can't take the banter and then gets a bit paranoid..

Don't smoke dope before buzzcocks is the moral of the story

It was more than a bit weird 😕
Still glad that he is replacing that annoying wee Scots lass on the Sat mornings on 6 🙂

[i]It was more than a bit weird[/i]

Yep, that's what drugs'll do for ya. Man.

[i]Everybody[/i] knows it's a tired format. But Noel is still funny.
The Rizzle Kicks boys have gone up in my estimation. Their music is rubbish but the lad handled little boy Huey very well!

Nervous breakdown and/or drugs.

It would have been better if Simon Amstell was there,he would have ripped Huey to bits.
Still like his radio shows though.

He added: Yo, Fern cotton won a gold award, shit is fake!"

Hmm maybe not such a cock then.

Don't smoke dope before buzzcocks is the moral of the story

Seemed to work-out okay for Bill Bailey...

Funny that someone whose whole persona has been how [i]cool[/i] he is, can be so incredibly UNcool.

Just made me smile a little, I've no idea who the bloke is/was/whateva and still couldn't care less, it's all about enjoying yourself on the programme shirley, the RizzleBouys were great fun, most of the guests are to be fair, it's a well tried and trusted format and everyone should know what to expect.
Noel is growing on me, Jupiter I'm still not that keen on.. but hey.

Simon Anstell set in front of me and MrsBouy in Saddlers Wells a month or so back, Nice boy Simon.

I love the way the guy from Rizzle Kicks doesn't let it lie. It's funny because Huey is having such a sulk! At one point I think you can see him trying not to laugh..,

How much coverage has this got...
That's why he did it. Any publicity etc.

You might be right, UH, but he looks more like a pathetic pissed/smashed old man shuffling off than a calculating marketeer.

Gave cotton and Laverne abuse? Good! He's gone up in my estimation, can't stand either

How much coverage has this got...
That's why he did it. Any publicity etc.

I must admit, I hadn't realised he was doing the Radio6 show and i'll be having a listen next time I can...

Their music is rubbish

No it's not, you just don't like it, please separate opinion from fact....

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[i]No it's not, you just don't like it, please separate opinion from fact..[/i]

PARP! (Who else's opinion can I use?) 😛

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grum - Member
Laverne twitter shenanigans?

This

Comes across as a bit egotistical but I can't fathom why Ferne Cotton or Lauren Laverne won awards either - would much rather listen to Huey's show.

And DezB is correct - Rizzle Kicks music is rubbish. 🙂

Thank you

I read somewhere the other day (I can't find it now) that the studio audience were pretty supportive of Huey Morgan because of a load of faffing about while trying to film (which was obviously cut out). I also find it laughable that it's reported as storming off, when it looked more like a stroll or wander to me!

I read somewhere the other day (I can't find it now) that the studio audience were pretty supportive of Huey Morgan because of a load of faffing about while trying to film

[url= http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/05/never-mind-the-buzzcocks-star-noel-fielding-huey-morgan-mug-smashing-was-a-storm-in-a-tea-cup-4175089/ ]Noel Fielding has said the opposite[/url].

I've not seen the clip, but just wanted to say that having listened to more rizzle kicks stuff than I'd probably have chosen to myself (kids' fault) they're actually pretty bright and talented boys who are good at what they do.

If what it is that they do isn't the sort of stuff you choose to listen to or that you like, it's pretty arrogant to assert that that makes it rubbish imho.

Yeah I take it back actually they're very skilled lyricists. 🙂

Mama, won't you please let me
Mama, won't you please let me
Mama, won't you please let me
Mama, won't you please let me

Yo, coming in with the sound fresher than cut grass
(Fun starts)
Second that we enter if you must ask (rush past)
Like you've forgotten your mind
Or the drivers all up in your face like can I see your
Bus pass!?
Like nah!
We just wanna lickle rhyme bruv
Call me what you want you want but you should not call it
A night love.
And I might just join the mile high club
Only problem being that I couldn't give a flying ****

Yeah lemme touch back down
Uh, Slap her on the bum until it
Comes back round
Half the rooms like Oi what's this all about, with
The other half jiving like
I love that sound.

(What!?) A yeah yeah, I love that sound,
(What!?) A yeah yeah I love that sound.
Uh, So flick your fag butts at once on a mad one like
Yeah, your mama can hump

Mama, do the hump, mama do the hump, hump
Mama, won't you please let me do the hump, hump
Mama, do the hump, mama do the hump, hump
Mama, won't you please let me do the hump, hump
Mama, do the hump, mama do the hump, hump
Mama, won't you please let me do the hump, hump
Mama, do the hump, mama do the hump, hump
Mama, won't you please let me do the hump, hump

I suppose they're harmless enough but it's not great is it. Sampling/ripping off EMF is a new low for music really.

Bloke of a certain age becomes grumpy shocker!

As a man of a similar age and an occasional tendency to become arbitrarily and sometimes unexplainably pissed off with just about anything, I like him even more and I will throw a cup at anyone who disagrees.

I for one, am currently surrounded by broken mugs

[i]Sampling/ripping off EMF is a new low for music really.[/i]

Ah, is that them?! I've heard that on the radio a couple of times. I take back my "rubbish" statement. They are SHIT.

Rizzle kicks are better than average fun popsters.

they're very skilled lyricists

Thing is, I don't think they'd describe what it is that they do as "being lyricists" and, let's be honest, there's plenty of critically acclaimed acts (that the singletrack music snobs approve of) whose lyrics don't scan like great poetry when put on the page.

Have you ever read any Beck lyrics? They're like someone's thrown a pile of words in the air and challenged him to use them in the order they land.

Or how about Nirvana. Ooh yeah, what a great lyricist etc..

Come on over and do the twist
Over do it and have a fit
Love you so much it makes me sick
Come on over and do the twist

Beat me outta me, beat me outta me
Beat me outta me, beat me outta me
Beat me outta me, beat me outta me
Beat me outta me, beat me outta me

Come on over and do the twist
Over do it and have a fit
Love you so much it makes me sick
Come on over and shoot the shit

Beat me outta me, beat me outta me
Beat me outta me, beat me outta me

Beat me outta me, beat me outta me
Beat me outta me, beat me outta me

She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart

She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my heart
She keeps it pumpin' straight to my

Yup ok, but am I allowed to think they're not very good without being branded a snob? Isn't that just inverse snobbery? 😉

Am I allowed to think they're quite entertaining without being branded a radio 1 listening pop tart?

+1 for Huey being a dick. Have never liked the guy, always found him arrogant, conceited and full of self love. His R6 set is good though.

+1 fr the Rizzla guys handing him a verbal slap down.

I really don't care what anyone else thinks. Or what anyone thinks of what I think. Or what anyone thinks of what I think of what they think.
I listen to plenty of pop pap with bad lyrics.
But nothing that samples Unblelievable by EMF like something straight out of Bill Drummond's 'The Manual: How to Have a Number One Hit the Easy Way' book.

I previously thought he was a bit of a knobber trying to put on a fake veneer of homeboy coolness, but I kinda liked that fact that he made the point about that round of the quiz just being one big cliche.

However, having just read that peice about his Twitter rants about Lauren (who I think is the best thing on daytime 6Music), his Buzzcocks outburst is put in a different context. Now I'm back to thinking he's a bit of a knobber....

I like it when huey rips a guitar solo in the middle of a FLC track live

The rest of it I don't care about

Yup ok, but am I allowed to think they're not very good without being branded a snob? Isn't that just inverse snobbery?

Yeah, sorry, my comment wasn't aimed at individuals, more about the "hive mind" on musical credibility which isn't just a STW thing - more that Lamacq / NME / studenty thing where bands cease to be any good once they've sold a few records to the masses etc, and anyone working in the field of "disposable pop" is by definition rubbish.

more that Lamacq / NME / studenty thing where bands cease to be any good once they've sold a few records to the masses etc, and anyone working in the field of "disposable pop" is by definition rubbish

I always saw it as a bit of a contiuum; a bit like

make interesting but slightly different records, sell a few
make less interesting and a bit more mainstream records, sell more
make uninteresting mainstream samey records, sell lots
make britains-got-the-next-ice-skating-x-factor-dance-talent, sell gazillions, but soul dies

I don't know that any of these need to be classed as "no good", all can be good in their own ways.

make interesting but slightly different records, sell a few
make less interesting and a bit more mainstream records, sell more
make uninteresting mainstream samey records, sell lots
make britains-got-the-next-ice-skating-x-factor-dance-talent, sell gazillions, but soul dies

See, where we can probably all identify acts where at least part of that trajectory is true, there's plenty of others who don't fit it all. Fundamentally, that assumes that selling truck loads of records = selling out and taking the creative ambition out, which is not always true.

How about ABBA? Pure pop with no pretensions to be anything other than mainstream, not my cup of tea, but nothing fundamentally wrong with the way they wrote and performed songs, and does the fact that lots of people liked what they did make it less good?

How about Radiohead? Their first album is probably their most mainstream-accessible and they've gone progressively less so as they've gone along. And continued to sell loads

Beach Boys - started out with simple, mainstream, unadventurous pop, then developed pretensions to be more artistic, made "Good Vibrations", often cited as the perfect "pop song" and not because it lacks ambition, quite the opposite.

Bowie - only started selling records (with the exception of Space Oddity) when he stopped trying to do disposable jump-on-this-week's-genre-bandwagon singles and became a bit more creatively ambitious.

So, in summary, your description of the trajectory applies sometimes, but does seem to be widely accepted as a universal rule, with the effect that there's a received wisdom that anything that sells well is inevitably rubbish, and the artist is a sellout, which is frankly cobblers as a universal rule.

EDIT: Forgot about the Beatles - probably the exact inverse of your trajectory. Increasingly ambitious / pretentious* (delete as per your opinion) as they went along, selling stupidly huge amounts of records all the way.

It does prove what I've always believed to be true.
The mugs are empty ,even when Fielding takes a sip.

I saw FLC a few years back. Huey was talking a lot in between tracks and someone in the crowd heckled him about it. He made out like he was gonna go down there and sort him out, but deliberatley waited till one of the security guys came up to stop him. It was all quite sad. I did like their music though.

zippykona - Member

It does prove what I've always believed to be true.
The mugs are empty ,even when Fielding takes a sip.

I think old HM's problem was that the mug had been full to start with.

My wife's friend slept with Huey, about 7 years ago, after a Fun Lovin Criminals gig in Newcastle

she said he smoked a ridiculous amount of weed, and 'struggled' when shit got real in the bedroom.

she was fit as well.

As a middle aged long term music fan who's been attending gigs for almost thirty years now, including some real classics, it was with much apprehension as to what I was letting myself in for that I took my teenage daughter and her friend to see Rizzle Kicks last year.
They were brilliant.
Talented lads, amazing timing and the way they verbally "riff" (I think thats the correct term 😉 ) off each other is really impressive. A really great live show.
As far as their lyrics go, I don't think they're meant to be prog rock-esque deep and profound TBH. Although their Cigarette one for example is quite cleverly written IMO

Also, Mama do the Hump is basically just a Fatboy Slim tune - more about the beat than the lyrics, like everything he's ever done. Personally I don't think it suffers for it.

Insulting Laverne. Now I'm angry..

*sighs and heads off to google...

The most irritating thing about Rizzle Kicks is that someone at the BBC recently described them as 'the biggest thing in UK hip hop'

They are not even the smallest thing in UK hip hop.. Surely someone should lose their job over that?

Saw FLC at Rock City in Nottingham, many years ago. Huey stopped mid song to be passed a joint from someone in the crowd, practically took the thing in one go, & carried on. Before one track he announced that for the next three minutes he was making love to every girl in the crowd. He was pretty cool. Then.

Who is this Huey Morgan bloke ? Never heard of him or seen him before.

What is this hippety hoppity of which you speak?
Like HM until his little huff on NMTB, still like the music.

He does come across as a bit of a nob.

However, he made Come Find Yourself, so I'm on the fence.

Rizzle Kicks are good fun and make decent pop music.

out of interest how much influence does the presenter have regards what music is played it their sole input or the producers and they are just the voice. I do realise some DJs have an increadible knowlege of a particular type of music

He acted like a knob. Smashing a mug was childish and attention seeking. 6 music is good, but better if you can string two words together.
Bring back Mark Lamarr ( and if he's not available, Amstell)

Disgraceful. Shocking, absolutely shocking................. that this tired old shit of a show is still on the air.

Bring back Mark Lamarr ( and if he's not available, Amstell)

Beer from the radio. Someone really should invent that. Think I've just found a topic for the PhD I'll never get round to doing....

[i]As a middle aged long term music fan who's been attending gigs for almost thirty years now, including some real classics,[/i]

Ooh, hark at you!! 😆

[i]it was with much apprehension as to what I was letting myself in for that I took my teenage daughter and her friend to see Rizzle Kicks last year.
They were brilliant.[/i]

Doesn't stop that EMF sampling bollocks from being utter shit.

Bump !who is this Morgan bloke ? I`m obviously from the wrong generation to know who he is !

[url= http://bit.ly/17HfHDw ]read the box at the bottom mate[/url]

I'm gobsmacked at many of the responses on here. What I saw was some bloke (who to be fair I've never heard of) pointing out to a bunch of tedious drones, sycophantics and acolytes that what they were doing was dull and not at all funny.

Buzzcocks is a truly awful and the bloke was quite right to point out that what they were doing wasn't funny.

I loved the bit where he told them it wasn't funny and they replied of course it's funny man cos they're wait for it.... your lyrics. This is how the game works. Isn't it great..

To which his reply was quite rightly "no it's not it's been done so many times before it's just awful"

I paraphrase of course.

Are you also on drugs then?

Cos I thought it was most humourous. As was Huey's red face when he was made to look a fool by a young upstart.

But he wasn't made to look a fool.
He was the only one there who could actually see that the emperor was stark bollock naked.

Everyone else was just like " man this is buzzcocks, it's the funniest thing fawn fawn fawn"

Bit like you're doing now really :0)

You didn't see his red face then? I reckon that's why he walked off: Embarrassment.
I dunno why I still find Buzzcocks funny, but I do and I don't really care why!

He's obviously a slow learner then, 9 times on the show? same format each time.....still took the money.

As a middle aged long term music fan who's been attending gigs for almost thirty years now, including some real classics,

Lol at only known for Scooby snacks..

I can only think of one Smiths song, is Morrissey shitter than Kenickie too? (I've honestly never heard a Kenickie song.. Is it an NME/Lamaque cliche thing?)

disclaimer - I'd much rather listen to Laverne than Huey in a presenting capacity

Just looked to me like the joke wasn't working for him- I found the 2 Rizzle children pretty funny, but if you're already feeling like the joke's dying then it'd just drive you mad. So you see the contrast, Phil Jupitus laughing and Huey just out of it completely. He looks more confused than angry.

He's getting on a bit now and the battle with middle age spread reigns supreme.

I bet you anything that he's on the iDave diet which makes middle age men say rash and grumpy things

Scooby snacks are not allowed on iDave

I'd never heard of Huey either! Rizzle kicks went up in my estimations after that 🙂

Can't say that I'm a huge fan of their music. That's the great thing about music though....it's subjective. I wouldn't brand them as shit, just not my thing.

He's obviously a slow learner then, 9 times on the show? same format each time.....still took the money.

This.

he's a knob and his band were shit.

I would wager that big haired rizzle lands some more presenting jobs after that. Huey had clearly been smoking a bit much before the show but he hardly lost it

No mugs left in my house ...hmmphfff
I'd be interested to hear what he say's about it, has it been reported anywhere ?