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Depends whether you want to be under the limit or you want your body to be alcohol free.
Why do you need to be 100% alcohol free to drive?
A low level of alcohol in the blood does not effect your reactions, co-ordination, vision or decision making to any significant degree.
Alcohol dehydrogenase is fairly specific and its rate for dealing with ethanol in a given individual isn't affected by many things
Well apart from sex, race, age, liver disease, certain medication and those who drink regular. Oh and food.
[i]Well apart from [b]sex, race, age, [/b]liver disease, certain medication and [b]those who drink regular[/b]. Oh and food. [/i]
Err, [b]"in a given individual"[/b] takes care of sex, race, age and regularity of drinking. liver disease will also be a constant there, not to mention an irrelevance in the "normal person" situation.
ANd, yes, we're all clearly talking about the few hours after a normally healthy person starting a session and the situation you presented was that this is when some mysterious "other toxins" are being removed, preventing ethanol metabolism from starting immediately
What other toxins, foods or even medications did you mean that affect alcohol dehydrogenase, or even overall alcohol removal to a significant extent?
ANd, yes, we're all clearly talking about the few hours after a normally healthy person starting a session
Are we?
I used toxins referring to medication and/or other intakes into your system. IIRC even a simple Aspirin has an effect on alcohol metabolisation.
well, [b][i]we[/i][/b] are 😉 though even if you're talking about folk with decompensated ALD or something, then I still say there's nothing stopping the process from starting as soon as alcohol is presented to the liver - Even then, no "toxins" are delaying the metabolism, it's just that there's very little liver left to do the work so it's just going to be slower overallAre we?
"A simple aspirin" (I think it's a gram or so - an "overdose" for any product you can buy), has an effect on bioavailabilty in some patients but still wouldn't affect the rate at which the liver removes ethanol from the body in these people - it's an effect on stomach/gut enzymes and first-pass effect
An old mate of mine got banned after being breathalysed at around 1 in the afternoon. I think he'd finished drinking around midnight. He said he felt fine. Make of that what you will.
Oh now I see.
We seem to be on two different points here, yes once it reaches the liver the process will start but the time it takes to process may vary from person to person.
agreed 😀
So on the basis that a 4% pint is a "2.5 hr drink", if I quaff a half with my lunch, I should wait 1.25 hrs before driving home?
Longer I would have thought as it's going to take 1 hour before the booze has even been absorbed.
OK I'll neck two or three really quick and it's only 15 minutes home in the car.
An old mate of mine got banned after being breathalysed at around 1 in the afternoon. I think he'd finished drinking around midnight. He said he felt fine. Make of that what you will.
He's lying about when he finished drinking.
It's quite common for an alcoholic to be a pretty determined liar.
OK I'll neck two or three really quick and it's only 15 minutes home in the car.
Off you pop...
gobuchul - Member
Depends whether you want to be under the limit or you want your body to be alcohol free.
Why do you need to be 100% alcohol free to drive?A low level of alcohol in the blood does not effect your reactions, co-ordination, vision or decision making to any significant degree.
Who are you, a spokesperson for Scottish and Newcastle in the 70's?
One of the reasons why the limit's been dropped to <1pint in most of Europe is precisely because it's been shown that a small amount is dangerous!
😆 He wasn't an alcoholic, it was after a work's night out. Classic STW judgement 😆