[Closed] how do you navigate long road rides?!

Easy, have a rough idea of where you want to go, and ride! This is the joy of the road bike! I'm re living my teenage years, when I used to just go for drives, to see what was out there and drive down roads to see where they go!

GPS unit or GPS/mapping on my phone. or just get out and learn the area with a map as backup.

Sign posts .

I always have a rough idea where I was heading, moving between villages and towns using b roads where at all possible, I tend to carry a couple of OS maps with me, and a GPS phone. Never really have much of a destination in mind though.

Plan on bikeroutetoaster then follow the beeps on the Garmin.

It is worth at least pawing over maps before you go out - just going out and following road signs tends to take you along the shortest, busiest routes. I'm out to ride, not arrive, so seeking out the less direct way of getting places (or not quite get places then) is more interesting.

It used to be the case that I'd try and look out the most interesting circuit, but in fact some of the more interesting rides round here come from deliberately going along roads that are dead ends.

I tend to have stared at a map for a while before I go out, sometimes have a scan or print of the map in my pocket if I need my memory jogged, and sometimes have no real plan but a iPhone in my pocket to check my options. If you've planned a particularly detailed route then one of those little map holders on your bars is useful to save rummaging for a map too often, I find most on the market are too big/stiff, if found one thats about 5" square and soft backed, but I got it about 10 years ago from somewhere or other.

Had a great ride yesterday mostly on roads I've never noticed before, went out with half an idea, stopped to share jelly sweeties with a lovely veteran lady cyclist who gave me a mountain of tips and routes that lead to roads and landscape (and an especially fine eatery) on my doorstep that I knew nothing about.

Back in my day...

pawing over a map 🙂

I have a friend who asks for ballpoint figures...

just going out and following road signs tends to take you along the shortest, busiest routes

Depends what signs!

Round my way there are plenty of the old style black and white road signs like this:

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(Not a local one!)

Which are usually on the less travelled roads as on the busy routes they've all been replaced.

pawing over a map

Your thinking of 'pore over' as in 'study closely'. I'm not that thorough. I mean to paw over - like a bear checking whether his dinner is dead yet

Quick look at a map before I set off for a rough idea of waypoints then just follow signs and nous

I prefer pawing 😉

Combination of:
Routes I already know
Signs
o/s maps chopped up so they fit nicely in a jersey pocket
Stopping to locate myself is a nice way to get a quick rest and enjoy the scenery
or, find a local club, they'll know the best roads for riding

I don't pour over the map tho, that would blur the ink

I usually pick simple routes so I've only got to remember a handful of road signs, does tent to mean busier roads but on the moors the quieter roads tend to be the even steeper ones!

Use The Force.

If its in a 40 mile radius of here, just follow my nose and link bits together. If you ride enough you'll soon know all the little roads (and potholes) in the area anyway.
Dodge big black clouds and try and get a tailwind home 🙂
If all else fails, aim for the sea and turn left or right depending on where i hit the coastline.
Heading out for 60 odd miles in a minute, no idea where i'll end up, just make it up as i go along.

Back when I did road centuries, I'd note some places I'd like to pass through, like pretty villages, decent hills etc and then figure out a route that took them all in via back roads. Then I'd either photocopy the map page or tear it out of the atlas (sorry dad). Most of the time I could remember to go left or right at certain places. And if not, it was always fun getting lost-ish. What you have to watch out for is an outward tailwind...

some tips I heard was to write out the juctions and tape to bars tear off when passed.

I wrote a list of turnings and tried not to sweat it to death (only 15 miles extra)

Possibly thinking google maps and laminater and phone maps

Garmin Edge 800 seems easiest...

Draw route on mem map fdownload to garmin sometimes print of the map gps unand therits are really cheap now and there are lots of online
route planners

Garmin Edge 800 seems easiest...

Except when it rains, mine crashed yesterday and refused to turn off so had to wait for the battery to die, this is my 2nd as the 1st never recovered from a very wet ride.

I study a google map the night before and plan the route and try and remember any key bits in my head. Have my iPhone with me, so if I'm not sure I just check the map on the phone.

I have been known to stick my TomTom in the pocket of my shorts and turn the voice up loud.

Look at route, remember key junctions/places, make notes.

If lost use road signs...

i paint the route on my nails

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Find someone who is local and suck their wheel for 4hrs. Works nearly everytime, all the time.

I now use my GPS but I used to plan it out on google maps. Print an overview map or carry a road map as well as having pace notes.

It is not a problem for shorter rides but doing a 100mile route (trying to follow a sportive route can be a bit of a chore. Big junctions will have signposts but little ones often didn't. Spent a lot of time on street view looking at junctions to make sure it was obvious.

Worth having a few way points in your mind incase you get lost (big towns/villages that are signposted from everywhere so you can get back to familiar roads.

Rather than going out and doing one big loop from new I would normally build up gradually and add to existing known loops to make it easier.

http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm

is pretty useful as you can run two maps in parallel (satellite and map)

I usually print off a high level view map of roughly where I'm going. I normally write the towns and villages I'll be passing through on the back of that. I'll only refer to it if I get completely lost for a long time though. That's one of the joys of riding a road bike, exploring, finding nice places.

1) Have a rough idea.
2) Use signposts.
3) Stop at a garage if you really don't have clue.

1) & 2) For any ride from the front door.
Added 3) for LEJOG and other longer rides.

the problem today was that though i wanted to just go where the mood took me, i was obliged to meet the wife at her friends' house 45 miles away and it was a new ride so i had to be accurate. seemed to work out ok, i didn't get lost once! interesting input from all, though - i like the way different people have different attitudes to the concept. 🙂

1) Have a rough idea.
2) Use signposts.
3) Stop at a garage if you really don't have clue.

This, I find it really hard to believe you could need anything else. It's a road bike and you're doing, what, a 60-100mile loop? And you need a GPS???

+1 on getting lost.

I made an unknown detour today, but guessing which direction would be good by my shadow on the ground helped plenty. And the fact the area I'm riding in is bordered by the sea seems to help.

I have taken a torn out page from a road atlas, to at least give me some place names.

The rest of it, just make it up.

If you're out in the middle of nowhere and unlikely to come across any road signs it can be useful to make a 'route card' before you go out, just a simple one you can glance at showing the junctions. So basically draw an arrow pointing the way you want to go at that junction and then a rough distance to the next junction. Attahch this to your bars and combine with a basic cycling computer which tells you the distance you've travelled will keep you right. Although a map and/or a gps in you're bag is handy if you get [i]really[/i] lost.

I seldom plan routes, I just have rides that are longer or shorter than planned.

Used to use a Garmin eTrex Vista C, now using a Sony Ericsson Xperia Active with MyTrails Pro, using a custom map style via Cloudmade for maximum clarity, following GPX files generated from Google Maps via GMapToGPX via Dropbox. Which sounds a hundred times more convoluted than it is - it takes about a tenth of the time it took to get a route onto the Garmin, if that.

I have a plan to write an Android app designed purely to navigate super-long routes imported directly from Google Maps, but with two websites to get out of the way beforehand it's going to be a while until I get round to it - until then MyTrails is tiding me over rather better than I'd expected.

Local rides don't need navigation; following signs and getting lost works if you've got spare time/energy; but a GPS of some sort is rather better if you're limited by either of those.

do all of you who have problems/need maps/GPS etc. roadride in areas far from home?
can't imagine getting lost anywhere in a 60mile radius from home.
the whole point in my roadbike is to ride it from home tho.

can't imagine getting lost anywhere [s]in a 60mile radius from home[/s].

do all of you who have problems/need maps/GPS etc. roadride in areas far from home?

I printed a rough googlemap of Lake Como when I went out a few years ago. But mainly guess as I went over some of the "hills" (mountains more like) and got thoroughly lost. It was great..!

lol @ Don, he's got a point..

ourman - that's called "sightseeing" 😉

ourman - that's called "sightseeing"

Well, judging by some of the [i]bella donnas[/i] I saw, it certainly was..!

mogrim - This, I find it really hard to believe you could need anything else. It's a road bike and you're doing, what, a 60-100mile loop? And you need a GPS???

Doing a tour made me really resent doing loops - I much, much prefer going A-to-B.

I sometimes get a train somewhere from work on a Friday afternoon and ride 200km or so home, often trying out new roads - in the winter that can mean riding almost entirely in the dark (easily missing turns and signage) and in foul weather and getting home in the small hours of Saturday morning, and I'm buggered if I want to be sticking in an extra 20km of getting lost on top of that 🙂

Also, the next big ride is about 450km and I'm buggered if I want to be sticking even an extra 20 yards on that one...

Poly - I know folk who will sit and input destination details to their GPS before they drive somewhere they've been hundreds of times, funnily enough they're all blokes.

You could imagine it's because blokes have poor memory but the reality is
blokes like gadgets/toys but most are tight (so want to eek every penny of VFM out of any new toy they get)

and when you've missed the turn and just lost 100m of height and need to climb back up very frustrating

You can't miss the turn if you haven't planned the route.

[i]You could imagine it's because blokes have poor memory but the reality is
blokes like gadgets/toys but most are tight (so want to eek every penny of VFM out of any new toy they get) [/i]

Real geek blokes would know that the GPS stores a list of last visited places. Those guys you know sound like nerds.