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[Closed] How could I 'ramp' this curb?

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Hoping you lot are waaay more practical than me! I'm planning a bike race for next year, and the course has to go over a couple of slightly raised curbs (about 1.5"). Anyone got any idea how I could 'ramp' it so the bikes smoothly sail over it? Was suggested coal tar, but the estates people said the curb is too small so they wouldn't be able to make a nice ramp on it, so it would just break up. Any kind of small rubber ramp or something?

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Posted : 24/10/2013 11:44 am
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Have you seen pave?

Tell the riders to MTFU...


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:46 am
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Piece of thick carpet?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:47 am
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Fatbike race I assume?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:49 am
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Use a fillet of premixed tarmac repair compound, should only take a couple of buckets for that length, and then dig it up straight afterwards.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:50 am
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650B?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:50 am
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What dannybgoode said, thats tiny.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:52 am
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Have you seen pave?

Tell the riders to MTFU...

Hear hear.

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Danny B

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Posted : 24/10/2013 11:52 am
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Restrict entry to only riders of 29ers. Everyone knows that 29 inch wheels have the ability to smooth out the biggest bumps. But you can only go in straight lines.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:52 am
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Sign with "kerb" written on it?

You could sort it quite nicely with a wee shaped plank but then if the right sort of tosser falls off on the plank you're maybe opening yourself up to trouble...


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:53 am
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Cheers fellas. Normally I would just tell them to MTFU, but we've got youth races as well, plus it's a crit and not sure I'd want people hitting it at 30mph, especially as they are turning into it (it's at a junction).


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 11:54 am
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Posted : 24/10/2013 11:58 am
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Something like this? Take a stanley knife and split it, put half each side? There are probably wider versions that would give you a smoother ramp.

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Posted : 24/10/2013 12:02 pm
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ply. Put a thin sheet over a thick sheet.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:05 pm
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What the construction companies do over here is lay asphalt on a sheet of plastic over the curb which makes it easier to pull it up afterwards.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:07 pm
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Someone's left 20p in the road on one of the pics, I'd have that if I were you before someone else see's it


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:08 pm
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I still vote for the MTFU option, if they cant ride over that then they shouldnt be racing.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:14 pm
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Chewing gum? In the pic I mean, not to level the curb.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:15 pm
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where's the kerb?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:16 pm
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...but the estates people said the curb is too small so they wouldn't be able to make a nice ramp on it, so it would just break up. Any kind of small rubber ramp or something?

Couldn't they tarmac over the whole thing in a nice swoopy bump, rather than just sticking tarmac wedges at each end? Assuming the tarmac could be removed easily enough afterwards? Or some kind of thick mat/carpet with a length of garden hose running under it along the edge of the kerb to soften the edge?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:17 pm
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Few more leaves ought to do it!!


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:21 pm
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bit of wood to step it down, a little lower than the kerb butted up to it, then carpet or similar over that.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:30 pm
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I suspect anything temporary you put on there will be more dangerous than the small bump. I'd not fancy turning onto two bits of unsecured ply, and wonder if you'd be opening yourself for more liability issues than if you just said "watch out for the small curb at the t-junction" in the briefing.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:38 pm
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I'm amazed nobody's yet suggested a ramp with a kicker to make a nice gap jump.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:52 pm
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*kerb


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:55 pm
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Put one of these in front of it:
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But seriously, this is a troll, right?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:58 pm
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What about putting an obstacle there (Tree trunk, railway sleepers),... that way everyone has to get off and step, jump over it?

Also adds to the spectacle, skill, makes it more spectator friendly.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 12:59 pm
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A proper rampage ramp

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Posted : 24/10/2013 1:03 pm
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...not sure I'd want people hitting it at 30mph

In that case keep it as it is. As above add a sign.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:03 pm
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One of these should do it:

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Posted : 24/10/2013 1:03 pm
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...not sure I'd want people hitting it at 30mph

Some hay bales or a few bollards and a bit of tape and you've got a nice chicane - adds feature to the race. Stone birds two with, simples


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:11 pm
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I swear there are bigger pot holes on the Ingliston crit circuit than that ramp. I'm sure it wouldnt cause any issues.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:12 pm
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a mat/carpet over the whole thing. taped down at the edges.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:23 pm
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Sand asphalt. You won't need much.
Try your local quarry. It will be a hell of a lot cheaper if you collect it with a pickup and tarp.
If you have no tarp it will be solid when you get to where you're going.
Or ask for cutback tar (used for raising around manholes during resurfacing)


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:33 pm
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[url= http://www.ultracrete.co.uk/product.jsp?productID=78 ]Ultra crete [/url] laid on plastic or a bit of sand so it comes up easily after.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:34 pm
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SHOTGUN the 20p!


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 1:35 pm
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leave it, but chuck in a chicken line (which is 10m longer) ?

in reality, if i HAD to soften it off, i would just get a sheet of ply. you could lie some 10mm ply in front of it, and it would make 1 step into two half sized steps. it would also then not move about!
paint something rad on it


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 3:40 pm
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put this over it then nail it down with a hilti gun:

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Posted : 24/10/2013 4:35 pm
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Carpet over the whole thing is the best idea. Ply strikes me as a terrible idea. Imagine if it gets wet...


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 4:36 pm
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Like the bridge at the Malverns in '97 😯


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 4:38 pm
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Bunnyhop signs


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 4:46 pm
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It's all good and well saying MTFU etc but riders would definitely, and rightly kick up a fuss about having to bunny hop a kerb every lap in a bunch, definitely not safe, especially if there is youth and chipper races as mentioned above.

Awaits abuse from all the mtb'ers that ride their boardman road bikes every Saturday with mtb pedals and camelbaks, you try hopping that, on a corner, at 28mph, in a bunch, chewing the stem, when you have been for the last 55 mins.


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 4:52 pm
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Ok I am far from a rad cyclist, but is this real or a wind up? Would anyone really have a problem with that - heaven help them is there is a tree root anywhere.

Seriously, would you notice that at any speed? Bunnyhop? Tyres would just roll over that wouldn't they?


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 5:00 pm
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I'm a road rider and have raced crits and would have no issue riding over that at 30mph. You wouldnt even need to bunny hop it, unless it really is an awful lot bigger than it looks. Road bikers are essentially 29'ers after all 😉


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 5:04 pm
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Exactly, I wish Surrey roads were that flat!!!!


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 5:05 pm
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To be fair roads in Belgium have one of those every 5 meters, with a trough, but whether or not people do think they could ride it, and yes I would go as far as saying EVERYONE here could ride over that, if the op was to organise a crit for all abilities, then no doubt about it, in one race, there WOULD be a crash, and it's not worth the dramas!


 
Posted : 24/10/2013 5:08 pm
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Thanks guys for the advice.. it's on a turn so definitely needs to be ramped for H&S (and to pass the risk assessment!). Two options most commonly suggested by people are:

1.Large sheet of wood going right over the kerb and over the other side (creating a 'curve' up and down), painted with grippy paint (not sure what exactly though..is there a product, or do I just mix sand and paint?), then nailgunned into the tarmac. Removal via crowbar

2.QUick dry cement made on lining paper, made into a small ramp a few hours before.

Both have their positives/negatives. Just need to test both I guess! At least I could re-use the wood the following year, and prepare it in advance.


 
Posted : 26/11/2013 4:30 pm