Meh, not a great 2nd episode.
Brief dragon sightings, zero tits
Disappointing
It's only 2 episodes in, but it has jumped 6 months between them and not a lot has happened, never learnt much about the characters in the second episode either, but again, loads of time to develop, it's got a second series commissioned now as well.
Also seen Episode 3 teaser, it looks like it jumps another year between episodes!
Bit of a slow one, and definitely lacking in violence/nudity.
It's obviously setting up the classic rivalries, rebellious daughter who hates her father, mild plotting and backstabbing etc etc.
Oh and the 5 minute long title sequence is back! 😁
All a bit predictable for me, shall probably keep watching but no GoT.
Well, [I]I[/I] enjoyed it 😃 They're in an impossible situation really, trying to follow what was (in its early seasons) undoubtably one of the finest tellyprogs of all time. The fact that it isn't mostly garbage, like a lot of highly anticipated stuff (Star Wars on Disney, I'm looking at you 😂) is enough for me at the moment. Regarding the pacing, again they can't win, as a lot of people want them to jump into massive battles/bloodshed right away and are moaning that it's "slow" - but the original GoT was glacially slow in the first couple seasons, which actually was a really good thing! And then other people are moaning it's not slow enough! The comparisons with GoT are inevitable, but probably not helpful - hopefully it'll find it's own groove shortly. It's definitely doing enough to scratch the itch at the moment, though.
but the original GoT was glacially slow in the first couple seasons
I'm not sure I agree with this - I'm rewatching the first series at the moment, and the sheer variety of characters, locations and action by the third episode is great. By a the end of episode one, you've got white walkers, Winterfell, the Starks, the Lannisters (including Tyrion), the king, Joffrey, adultery/incest, Danaerys, Drogo, a kid getting chucked out of a window. By the end of the third you've got Kings Landing plus all the devious types/murder mysteries there, the Mountain/Hound/Bronn, action at The Wall and a load of other subplots developing. The pace is pretty intense and big plots are already unfolding.
Here you have locations you already know - Kings Landing/Dragonstone, various Targaryens, Hightowers etc, a lot of small council chat, some marriage intrigue, perhaps a bit of naval trouble on the horizon, and a mini-Danaerys on a dragon.
Both Paddy Considine and Rhys Ifans' characters are decently-drawn and acted, but don't really grab your attention. All the focus seems to be on the succession dynamic without anything else really going on to fill in the gaps.
I'm hopeful it will build quickly from here, but it seems a bit one-dimensional to me.
Here you have locations you already know – Kings Landing/Dragonstone, various Targaryens, Hightowers etc, a lot of small council chat, some marriage intrigue, perhaps a bit of naval trouble on the horizon, and a mini-Danaerys on a dragon.
and a nasty case of crabs
^^^actually that's horrible. Shall I edit?
I enjoyed ep2.
It's not gonna match GoT in it's prime, but they're doing it well for a spin-off IMO.
Paddy C was particularly good in this one.
^^^actually that’s horrible. Shall I edit?
If you have to ask...
Paddy C was particularly good in this one.
He's a fine actor, and hopefully he'll go full 'Dead Man's Shoes' at some point. How can a Targ not have a bit of ultraviolent rage in him?
Summary so far:
Dr Who borrows an egg.
Did I miss anything?
I'm hoping that Graham McTavish will get in lots of smiting before long. He seems a bit underused so far.
Dr Who borrows an egg.
Did I miss anything
Prince Philip's hair transplant a considerable success
Needs more tits, arse and violence
Well did it, got through all 73 episodes in just under 4 weeks. Lots of early mornings and late nights.
This week's ending required some extra suspension of disbelief (yes, I know it's a fantasy etc but some kind of internal coherence and logic would be appreciated).
I'm liking it so far - you have to remember it's focus is quite narrow compared with GoT (mostly the war that tore apart the Targaryens). For now it's fairly quickly covering the build up to that and introducing the main characters (the time jumps are quite jarring though) but I'm imaging the timeline will slow down and more characters will be introduced and others rounded out as the conflict starts.
There's several other GoT series in development, mostly with a narrow focus on certain characters/events so I don't think we'll see another 8 season epic like GoT
Well did it, got through all 73 episodes in just under 4 weeks. Lots of early mornings and late nights.
Were you left feeling robbed and disappointed by the last season and final episode 😢
Boobs bums and dicks a little something for everyone. Plus Dr Who got a hair cut.
I was on tenterhooks all episode.... I was making a cup of tea in the next room before it started and heard the warning ' contains scenes of surgery that viewers may find distressing'. I can take the gore of battle but a long drawn out scene when you know what's coming makes me squirm.
At the end was vaguely disappointed. Said to wife - where was the surgery? She looked at me like I was from another planet. After a brief explanation, turns out she had it on some 24 hours emergency ambulance channel and had turned over just before and I'd heard the warning to the wrong program. Anyway, it livened up a mainly quite boring episode for me.
At the risk of straying to DoY territory. For a weeny princess who's never done it before, she had some good moves. But all the time it had me worried that Sir Todger might be up for some surgery once Paddy found out.
She did seem a quick learner...
She did seem a quick learner…
Amazing what you can pick up in a brothel...
Amazing what you can pick up in a brothel…
Coke and hookers 😁
As sulky teenagers don't do anything for me for some reason, I found that glacially paced and thoroughly boring. Dr Who's got a shorter fright wig and it takes a knight about 45 mins to strip for action seem to be the main take aways. Not sure I can be arsed staying with...
The "auditions" were entertaining 😃
Just "caught up".
Is this meandering yawnfest actually going anywhere anytime soon?
I'm still rating the Day of the Dead series over this.
I found the first episode on YouTube. Only watched about half, it's not captured me. ☹️
Is this meandering yawnfest actually going anywhere anytime soon?
Exactly. Every episode should have Graham McTavish lopping off some heads or something just to liven things up. Or the equivalent of Tyrion Lannister getting drunk and being a smart-arse.
I think it's the next episode (or possibly the one after) we jump 10+ years and get the 'adult' versions of some of the characters, it's only after that the civil war starts. Personally I'm fine with the pace so far (although I think not being able to binge watch multiple episodes puts more of a focus on an episode when not much happens apart from setting up some future stories). It's not about sword fights and dragon blasting every episode though, nor was GoT
It’s not about sword fights and dragon blasting every episode though, nor was GoT
No, but the Lannisters' bickering was entertaining enough to keep it interesting when there wasn't any action.
Enjoyed the latest, back to intrigue/conniving that is GoT at its best! Sets it up nicely for it all to kick-off big time next ep!
Matt Smith not clicking with me at all, though. Is he just not a very good actor? (Not a dr who fan so don’t think I’ve seen him in anything else!) Or could be how they’re using him… what were those ridiculous Jedi robes about. 😂
Also, apparently, in the books 2 pivotal scenes in this ep were deliberately left ambiguous whereas here they’re way too heavy handed.
Was thinking after the last episode, there's actually no real likeable characters in this one, unlike GoTs, could be a big problem if they want to do multi seasons of this, there's no real care if any of them were killed off, as the characters are pretty one dimensional, there's no Tyrion, or Ned Stark, or a Hound/Bronn/etc.
Matt Smith not clicking with me at all, though
Same, possibly a bit to do with the character/writing but he's not very convincing so far - hopefully it improves.
Was thinking after the last episode, there’s actually no real likeable characters in this one
Yeah, GOT was great when it was the Starks versus the Lannisters. The Lannisters were great villians, terrible people, but you could also have some sympathy with most of them, and their squabbling among themselves was utterly brilliant. HOTF just doesn't have any characters to compare to that.
Same, possibly a bit to do with the character/writing but he’s not very convincing so far – hopefully it improves.
I get the impression the source material is pretty thin - just a fake scholarly 'history' of the Targaryens. It lacks the multiple character arcs that made GoT so compelling. In the end GoT struggled to unite all those arcs and stay true to the original characters, so season 8 was unsatisfying, and there were times when some of them were a bit tedious, but there was always something interesting going on.
The last episode of HotD was a bit better - a lot more conniving, and Paddy Considine's performance is growing on me - you can feel the suppressed rage starting to break through. I think we're due a big time jump and new actors after just five episodes though, not sure how that will work.
Is he just not a very good actor?... what were those ridiculous Jedi robes about
Not sure the problem is Matt Smith. As for the robes, that was a scene that never needed to happen. He should have just shown up at the wedding later on amid rumours of his wife's demise... Sometimes, spelling things out is worse.
The whole thing seems to be missing an antogonist.
The crabfeeder thing was largely pointless.
Is the other house the antagonist?
Is it Dr Who?
Who is or are the heroes?
In the end GoT struggled to unite all those arcs and stay true to the original characters, so season 8 was unsatisfying
Problem was that it just made no sense. Daenerys escaped slavery, set out to free the slaves, then suddenly turned into a tyrant. Jaime Lannister started out as a nasty villain, learned some hard lessons and turned good, then suddenly went right back to villainy as soon as he was reunited with his sister. That's just the beginning of the problems, the whole season was just laughable.
Daenerys escaped slavery, set out to free the slaves, then suddenly turned into a tyrant. Jaime Lannister started out as a nasty villain, learned some hard lessons and turned good, then suddenly went right back to villainy as soon as he was reunited with his sister.
Exactly the two examples that spring to mind first. They could have constructed a decent heroine to tyrant arc, and a redemption arc for Jamie, but not over the course of a handful of episodes, and you would have needed to plant more seeds earlier in the series to support them.
I suppose you see Danaerys being utterly ruthless on several occasions beforehand, but you would need a bit more evidence of the true Targaryen madness coming to the fore in the run-up to Kings Landing.
Problem was that it just made no sense. Daenerys escaped slavery, set out to free the slaves, then suddenly turned into a tyrant. Jaime Lannister started out as a nasty villain, learned some hard lessons and turned good, then suddenly went right back to villainy as soon as he was reunited with his sister. That’s just the beginning of the problems, the whole season was just laughable.
You can add the Jon Snow failure, he went from being the main focus, i.e. the prince that was promised, to a bit part, with the whole Night King ending being a bit pants. Varys going from the smartest player in the game to pointless, etc, etc. They'd put so much effort into the storylines in earlier seasons to then just do a fast ending to the plots.
Plus, we wait years and years for the Big Bad to finally arrive, he's a supernatural being who seems invincible, and then he walks into a really obvious trap and gets killed by a girl with a knife without any explanation of who he was and what his motives were.
The bloke blitzes through the Wall pretty easily but can't take Winterfell. Winterfell should have been razed to the ground and Bran/Arya killed. Bran was easily the most tedious character in the whole thing anyhow.
Bran was easily the most tedious character in the whole thing anyhow.
Every time I think of Bran, I'm reminded of Neil from The Young Ones, just less interesting.
Been catching up on this; by God it's dreadful! 😂 Entertaining, however, but not as intended I imagine. Although I was very disappointed not to see the crap feeder villain's demise. Dr Who comes out of the cave dragging about a third of his corpse, but we didn't get to witness it! Some utterly dreadful 'acting'; not least by the king's daughter, Paddy Corstophine and the main Valerian guy, but the very worst is his son. Can't act at all. Rhys Ifans was ok though. Not a patch on GoT, this. Hopefully they'll limit it to one series.
Hopefully they’ll limit it to one series.
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