This forum has sunk to a new low.
ransos - MemberIt's about context. The context here is a man joking about assaulting a woman by kicking her in her genitals. It's really not difficult to see why it's a little problematic.
You have your answer even without me typing it.
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I wouldn't say it in a meeting at work, nor expect it to be used in one which is the standard for language that stw seems to use for 'acceptable'?
It's not a lad's night out on here.
I’ve done a quick forum search, variations have been used on here for a long time. Sometimes just in a general context not directed at a person in particular. Other times yes they have been directed towards a specific female.
If you report them we can review. them, looking at the list of who has used it in the past it’s the usual suspects.
wwaswas - MemberIt's not a lad's night out on here.
It's barely a slightly exercised knitting circle, let alone a lads' night out!
I wouldn't say it in a meeting at work, nor expect it to be used in one which is the standard for language that stw seems to use for 'acceptable'?
Is that based on where you work, or where I work 😉
Because it wouldn’t raise an eyebrow in a meeting here, wether it was said by a man or a woman.
This place just never peaks...
To put that in context, Id rather trust the judgement of my wife and friends (actual feminist women) over that of a middle age man over what constitutes misogyny.
To put that in context, Id rather trust the judgement of my wife and friends (actual feminist women) over that of a middle age man over what constitutes misogyny.
I'm sure you trust the judgement of someone who married you. As for the rest of us...
I genuinely didn't realise that 'slats' was to do with lady parts.
I wonder if ex Aussie Test cricketer Michael 'Slats' Slater knows that his teammates were actually calling him a **** for all those years?
Can't say I've ever felt compelled to use it or thought it particularly amusing. Or original come to that. Often used by people who might also say ‘kicked her back doors in’. Soooo funny.
Should equate to ‘kicked him in the nuts’ but doesn’t somehow. Has more than a sniff of domestic violence to it to be massively hilarious.
'The hoof'
I don't think it's misogynistic in itself, though I haven't used it and I suppose some people could be using it a bit too enthusiastically.
For the record I personally don't mind the c-word as much as the p***y word. For me it has porny overtones and just sounds sleazy.
Agreed, and the way the P word is used is more insidious IMO. Same goes for "douche", in a different way.
I’m another one who had no idea that it related to a female body part. It just comes across as a generic way of ‘assaulting ‘ someone. Ho hum.
I did, I just assumed it was a more humorous and less crude way of suggesting you kick someones **** in. Again, context.
And FWIW I'll take the word of a woman as to what is misogynistic over having it mansplained* to me by a white knight. Maybe if more people listened to the people who are ACTUALLY affected by such issues we could solve a lot of the real problems in this world instead of inventing them where they never existed.
*I feel dirty for using a word that is most often just used as a lazy way to shut down an argument but there is really nothing more appropriate to this scenario.
Shame, I think it has a nice ring to it.
DezB - Member
I say ban threads about US politics.oh, and whinging about nothing.
Stop moaning about nothing ffs. 🙂
I agree. But not saying that particular phrase isn't exactly difficult and it really isn't necessary. How many men on here would say it in front of their partner and feel comfortable with it?
I’ll ask my g/f, having been kicked in the slats by another girl when she was younger, I’d say her view would carry rather more weight than that of people being offended on behalf of other hypothetical individuals.
Can we also change ‘hoof’ incase we upset any horses?
And FWIW I'll take the word of a woman as to what is misogynistic over having it mansplained* to me by a white knight.
We heard you the first time. You do seem desperate to take offence.
When did STW become Mumsnet?
makecoldplayhistory - Member
When did STW become Mumsnet?
After last nights referendum.
Will of the people etc.
makecoldplayhistory - Member
When did STW become Mumsnet?
STW is what you think Mumsnet is going to be - the total opposite of what it actually is
I wonder if ex Aussie Test cricketer Michael 'Slats' Slater knows that his teammates were actually calling him a **** for all those years?
But that is a nuance of different countries having different uses of the English language – slats may not be used as a slang term in Australia. For example, I was once called spunky by an American course tutor at college – I don't think he was suggesting anything untoward.
[url= https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slats ]And for the Urban Dictionary translation of slats - I think we can agree it is a slang term for lady bits...[/url]
Reusing old gags? That'll be £500 please.
+ VAT
We heard you the first time. You do seem desperate to take offence.
I don't think you did, I certainly never married my wife's friends, most of whom are more clued up with feminism than the vast majority on here. And I think you have this the wrong way round, it's not me getting up in arms about the term in question.
I don't think we need feminists to tell grown adults that using such terms is unacceptable. If we do, there is a more widespread problem.
When did STW become Mumsnet?
It didn't. On mumsnet they seem able to not have a complete meltdown every time someone says a naughty word
Not seen anyone having complete meltdowns, just differing opinions. This happens.
Mumsnet is the moshpit, stw the balcony of online forums (fora?).
Not seen anyone having complete meltdowns,
Try "avoiding" the swear filter then
[url= https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sex/3133515-Wet-dream-about-Jarvis-Cocker-anyone ]Mumsnet x STW collab, innit. [/url]
(Caution - it's rude. Oh, and no, it wasn't me.)
Only ever seen it here. Same with kicking in back doors.
Is it a northern thing?
Oh, and no, it wasn't me
One doth protest too much...
And I think you have this the wrong way round, it's not me getting up in arms about the term in question.
I'm pretty sure I have it the right way round: man babies crying and stamping their feet at any suggestion that they might reflect on their language.
I doubt that this lady has any issues with the phrase, though I think she missed it....
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I've always understood it as a kick in the nuts, it is used fairly widely round here (here physically rather than here on the forum).
There's a line to be drawn, but I don't think anyone on STW (or, generally, in real life) using the term is actually suggesting that they're going to kick anyone in any type of genitals or elsewhere (or indeed grow a hoof or obtain one some other way).
It clearly means "you or the person I am aiming the hoof at is acting in a silly and unacceptable way".
It's quite low down my list of "things that need to be considered to make the world a better place".
Google suggests it's an American term for kick in the ribs.
Explains why I've never heard it.
But... seems quite PC after all.
More [url= https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slat ]Googling[/url] would also suggest that 'slat' is 'to strike, pummel or hurl' so the language pedants will be tearing their hair out now: 'I want to kick you in the throwing something'.
I don't think we need feminists to tell grown adults that using such terms is unacceptable. If we do, there is a more widespread problem.
man says phrase is misogynistic
woman says it isn't
man says I know better
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man says phrase is misogynistic
woman says it isn't
man says I know better
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Anecdote ? data.
HTH.
[quote=philjunior ]I've always understood it as a kick in the nuts, it is used fairly widely round here (here physically rather than here on the forum).
Where is "here"? Just so that I know where to avoid if I don't want to be hoofed in the slats*
* I note that I'm a bloke and I'm applying the expression to myself, hence it's explicitly not referring to a woman's body parts
Okay Ransos you win, I'll pass it along that it is, I'm sure they'll be delighted to be relieved of the burden of thinking for themselves now they have a clever man to do it for them.
Okay Ransos you win, I'll pass it along that it is, I'm sure they'll be delighted to be relieved of the burden of thinking for themselves now they have a clever man to do it for them.
*retrieves squirrelking's toys and places them back in his pram*
