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I had one for 6 weeks, I truly loved it, apart from the squeaky clutch pedal the dealer couldn't fix after 5 trips back to him. In the end I got a refund. Shame, brilliant car.


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 9:13 pm
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I'd happily drive my old Aygo ANYWHERE. oh and I did.

Would you drive it on the A640 though? Something you wouldn't be detouring to in a Golf? These adventures you do are stuff most of us did, in lesser cars than your Aygo, in our late teens/early 20's which is perhaps why they don't seem all that impressive.


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 9:13 pm
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I'd happily drive my old Aygo ANYWHERE. oh and I did.

Bealach na Ba in January? When did you that?


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 9:22 pm
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These adventures

What adventures?


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 9:24 pm
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The limit of my mondeo seems to be when it becomes a snowplough and pushes a big bow-wave of snow up onto the windscreen, that's a bit tricky. Other than that it's pretty much unstoppable, except when it's broken down, which is all the time. So if someone'd like to trailer me to the A640 I'm up for the challenge. I'll check with Hora to see if it's AWD.


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 9:28 pm
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I don't know much about cars

Quoted from a thread a couple of weeks ago... ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 10:09 pm
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I had one for 6 weeks, I truly loved it, apart from the squeaky clutch pedal the dealer couldn't fix after 5 trips back to him. In the end I got a refund. Shame, brilliant car.

Master cylinder fault - VERY well known problem that all Honda dealers deny exists. Needs a new master cylinder & all will be fine.

Basically the rod at the back of the pedal pushes a piston in the master cylinder & where they meet gets worn, causing the squeak. You also lose feel and the clutch becomes an on/off switch.


 
Posted : 28/12/2014 10:58 pm
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A proper Land Rover (the square sort) will also spin the wheels on one axle if you give them no friction. This is a permanent 4WD vehicle. It will carry on until the centre diff siezes due to not being designed for those stresses for a long period of time. Lock the diff though and you'll have equal distribution to both axles, although you still have open diffs [i]across[/i] the axles.


 
Posted : 29/12/2014 8:36 am
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That test is useless. If you had put a typical 2wd car on there with only one of the driven wheels on the rollers then that wheel would have been spinning with no power/torque sent to the other wheel. So would we draw the conclusion that actually the car was only 1wd? Its the classic pulling out of a junction with the inside wheel spinning scenario you get with open diff cars.


 
Posted : 29/12/2014 10:33 am
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Lock the diff though and you'll have equal distribution to both axles, although you still have open diffs across the axles.

Lost count of the number of times I've had to explain this to someone sitting cross-axled in a sloppy hole revving the nuts off wondering why they're not moving...

If several years of proper off-road driving and trials have taught me anything it's that it always comes down to the driver and the understanding of their own vehicle and how it works, I've been embarrassed by 2wd buggies cleaning sections a fully diff-locked wagon struggled with, and likewise I've got further than I expected using just RWD and an LSD at times. It's actually very rare for me to need to lock the centre diff and use all 4 wheels on normal roads.

If you know how your drive system works and drive accordingly you'll get a lot further than some numpty having blind faith and a heavy foot.

The CRV does exactly that it is supposed to do and for the vast majority of real world situations that's what it *should* do. If you need something with more control then you will also need to know how to use it.


 
Posted : 29/12/2014 1:31 pm
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Basically the rod at the back of the pedal pushes a piston in the master cylinder & where they meet gets worn, causing the squeak. You also lose feel and the clutch becomes an on/off switch.

Mine has a squeek sometimes. I will look at that thanks.


 
Posted : 29/12/2014 8:25 pm
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I've got a MY14 CRV , the 2wd diesel
It's on winters and coped pretty well with the snow at Glenshee yesterday

It's comfortable, efficient & carries all my family shit no hassle

I'd rather have a 2wd with decent tyres than a fully blown 4wd on standard treads


 
Posted : 29/12/2014 11:09 pm
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If it wasn't bad enough for CRV owners


 
Posted : 02/01/2015 12:12 pm
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So the linked/'test' is erroneous?

I'd happily drive a CRV on a long motorway trip etc. However I'd feel far more confident in my car. You can feel where it is, what its doing etc. I liked the original CRV. The latter ones are going/gone down the route that many manufacturers have gone. Its not for me. That's what appeals about the Subaru to me. Everyone's different but I wouldn't buy a autoexpress's top pick car. To compare a same era Mondeo or golf is mad. It shows you treat cars as appliances if you can't feel the differences between each.


 
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You do know you talk utter bollocks right?


 
Posted : 03/01/2015 8:16 pm
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So the linked/'test' is erroneous?
I'd happily drive a CRV on a long motorway trip etc. However I'd feel far more confident in my car. You can feel where it is, what its doing etc. I liked the original CRV. The latter ones are going/gone down the route that many manufacturers have gone. Its not for me. That's what appeals about the Subaru to me. Everyone's different but I wouldn't buy a autoexpress's top pick car. To compare a same era Mondeo or golf is mad. It shows you treat cars as appliances if you can't feel the differences between each.

Does this stuff you write actually make sense to you?


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 1:46 am
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But a car is an appliance.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 8:37 am
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A lockable diff. No offense but Subaru's aren't 4x4's like landies. They are marketed as ALLwheeldrive. Not two spinning whilst waiting for the two rears.

There are almost no AWD cars that won't happily spin 2 wheels

But for a landrover with a locked centre diff the spinning wheels will need to be on different axles

I think the test in the video is odd. If the rollers were say only under the left wheels then almost every production 4wd would fail. (does the G-Wagon still have a diff lock in the rear axle). On a Uk road ice down one side would be as likely a real world problem.

But surely know one buys a a CashCow for ultimate traction. Just more grip than a 2 WD


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 9:14 am
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Cars are much more fun when you just buy the one that you like the look of the most.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 9:27 am
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My buddy down in Cornwall has had this model for, uhh, 20 years.

Stop messing about you lot and get a real mud plugger.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:28 am
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Stop messing about you lot and get a real mud plugger.

Or stop pretending you need one and buy a normal car.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:40 am
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He does. I have Twingo 1.2 8V. [no, no stripes, before you ask] ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:42 am
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But a car is an appliance.

The ones I buy are, as that is all I can afford or want to afford.
Some days, while sat in my grey, diesel people carrier I do glance at the chap in the rather splendid vroom vroom machine next to me and wish.... ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:56 am
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It shows you treat cars as appliances if you can't feel the differences between each.

Maybe, but plenty of us can tell the differences in how different cars drive and feel, then have to choose based on whether all our children fit in the back!


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 11:01 am
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It shows you treat cars as appliances if you can't feel the differences between each.

As I sat in my transit on the comfy seat in a relaxed position crawling round the Manchester ring road for 2hrs a day I did feel sorry for all those in their firm riding sporty cars with stupid sports seats and all that as they crawled along at the same speed...


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 11:04 am
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Mike I thought you lived in NZ?


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 4:51 pm
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It's a very comfy van to make long drives in.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 4:54 pm
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King-ocelot are you a OAP and wear beige slacks in yours? Use the CRV to drive to your holiday home in Bournemouth? Youngsters probably don't sound right to you nowadays ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 5:39 pm
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Never mind hora, youll be back to work tomorrow , no need fo try hard to be a shit troll then


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 6:13 pm
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I honestly don't think hora's a troll, just that he

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Posted : 04/01/2015 6:32 pm
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My slacks aren't beige, they are more custard cream colour much like my hush puppies ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 9:29 pm
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Most crv drivers would never be pushing hard enough to notice the rear wheels being driven!

I've just had a go in my old mans brand new forester xt, and can confirm it is far superior to pretty much any other SUV type vehicle. He has replaced his freelancer with the subaru ( having previously has a forester). Only down side is the depreciation, but as it's such a good car why would you want to sell it?

I have driven several Nissan cumquats, x trails, crvs, freelanders etc, they are all dull and poorly engineered by marketing departments. Subaru marketing department is run by engineers, that's why they don't sell many!


 
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Seems like an oversight, should get some marketers in to do that bit. ๐Ÿ˜›


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 9:46 pm
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Mike I thought you lived in NZ?

He lives in Tasmania having emigrated with his mrs a couple of years ago (although they've now split up). It's amazing what you can learn about people by reading what they write. Rather than typing whatever verbal diarrhoea springs into your mind. You should try it.


 
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Subaru marketing department is run by engineers, that's why they don't sell many!

I thought this was partly down to a lack of dealerships as FHI have been partly owned by other car manufactures who have import restrictions on numbers of models (like nissan and toyota building cars in the uk to get round this) and Subarus were made in Japan? It's always interesting to see how much of a Subaru is 'Subaru' and which parts say other car makers names on them. I do like Subarus they are very good cars.

The marketing department were in overtime circa 2001 when Imprezas were everywhere in car magazines. I remember buying a copy of evo and getting an impreza calendar and loads of adverts for the car inside. Not bad marketing work for engineers ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:14 pm
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I've just had a go in my old mans brand new forester xt, and can confirm it is far superior to pretty much any other SUV type vehicle. He has replaced his freelancer with the subaru ( having previously has a forester). Only down side is the depreciation, but as it's such a good car why would you want to sell it?

Generally, Forester owners don't sell too quickly. I kept mine for 10 and 7 years. I only sold as I needed an auto 'cos of a foot operation. Bought a Leggy as replacement. I think I'll be keeping it a while...


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 10:15 pm
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but as it's such a good car why would you want to sell it?

Ask my old man, first and last new car he ever bought; wasn't worth a **** and ran like a bag of shit from cold. Took a massive hit when he swapped it for a same age Mondeo. Shame really, it was otherwise a great car in terms of room and comfort.

I know not EVERY Forester turned out that way but there are issues just like every other make (definitely don't buy a diesel if you don't like bills running into the hundreds when an injector or big end needs replacing).

K20's on the other hand are common as dog shit and just as difficult to eliminate. Plus a hell of a lot easier to work on than a Boxer lump. They all have their faults but on balance I'd probably go for the Honda.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 1:12 am
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Subaru ancillaries use bought in components. The window/mirror controls are stamped Toyota underneath. The heated seats modules Nissan. ^ Honda's diesel also had issues with cam chains (everyone's the same I guess when it comes to engine issues).

Njee20 shut up.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 8:33 am
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njee20
It's amazing what you can learn about people by reading what they write.

Stalker alert....

Also it's possible to have experience of many places.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 9:27 am
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No offense but Subaru's aren't 4x4's like landies. They are marketed as ALLwheeldrive. Not two spinning whilst waiting for the two rears.

I'm a fan of Subarus myself, but yes they are. The recent ones (i.e new shape Foresters) may be different and have electronic aids to brake a spinning wheel but the old shape ones would have got stuck in this exact way due to a non locking centre diff, in fact even one wheel off the ground or with zero traction would stop them on any sort of slope. In some ways the performance Subarus do better as they at least have limited slip centre and rear diffs so they do transfer at least some torque in this situation.
They do have the advantage that they don't require the fronts to slip before the rears receive torque though so they are better than most in snow as they aren't constantly slipping the fronts a little bit.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 11:48 am
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Is this going to go like the Lance Armstrong threads ?


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 11:51 am
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I can vouch that the back wheels have no drive

Got my car stuck in a field over the Xmas break - no bother I thought, i'll just use my Dad's CRV to pull it out

I quickly got my father's CRV stuck in the field as it was clearly not 4x4 - the front wheels were spinning but nothing was happening with the backs

Went back to basics and jacked both motors up and chocked the wheels and got everything out

The next day I even got underneath the Honda to check if it had a propshaft and read axle - and to my surprise it did!

God knows the cost of the fuel associated with dragging all that extra metal around....


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 12:25 pm
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I quickly got my father's CRV stuck in the field as it was clearly not 4x4 - the front wheels were spinning but nothing was happening with the backs

Went back to basics and jacked both motors up and chocked the wheels and got everything out

The next day I even got underneath the Honda to check if it had a propshaft and read axle - and to my surprise it did!

I don't think we can blame Honda for you buying a 2 wd drive version


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 4:50 pm
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Subaru won best in class in 2014 by 4x4 may and is 2nd this year. The hardcore class was won by... The Wrangler Jeep.


 
Posted : 05/01/2015 6:39 pm
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Well that must mean it's awesome then Hora, I thought this was a post about Honda's or is it a Subaru love in now?


 
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