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http://www.carthrottle.com/attention-all-honda-owners-your-4x4-crv-might-not-be-a-4x4-after-all/
Its a 2WD. Should have bought a Forester.
or just work out that you only bought a 4x4 to feel better about yourself and that 2wd and learning to drive is a better option - that and a forester isn't much special.
No diff lock on it then? Even Mrs ScotRoutes Urban Cruiser has one of those.
the Honda statement is quite clear about how the 4 wheel drive works in real life, Can't see a problem myself.
Oh come on mike some cars pull like a tractor beam with awd into roundabouts and bends... 😉
yes and I've driven a forester.... it's nowt special.
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I bought a cheap 07 (late previous shape) crv from someone in the trade on the cheap (interior is tatty) but it's fine as a second car carrying my bikes and dogs about. No poke in it at all which would lead me to realise it's not really meant as a hardcore 4x4 before it's been off road. I like subarus but parts cost on a forrestor would put me off as I don't need a real 4x4, and they are equally as dull as my crv.
Any news on the Landcruiser you were importing?
The updated Honda statement (and comment) on the foot of the page points to a set of circumstances whereas the Kuga immediately adapted/reacted.
IF the CRV is markeded as a AWD or 4x4 then its false. If however its marketed as a car then fine.
The Landcruiser is too expensive ATM
Did you read the commentary?
When I lived in Highland Perthshire, up a dirt track, off a B road, I drove a CR-V and guess what? It worked. Ok, not a landy but that wasn't what I wanted or needed, and if I was to move back to the wilds, I'd probably get another one.
I drove a Aygo on summer tyres through WYorkshire and European snow.
Are all wheels driven at one point or another .....
You know theres a ferarri with the same system right ? Its also awd.
Also forrester - tractor beam in corners....not quite. Depends what you have been in i guess but it wasnt special.
What standard cars do you class as better?
The Panda 4x4 has a front biased system which auto switches to 4 wheels as soon as the fronts slip
Ill take an elise on that bet.
Audis quatro system is also hopeless when tractions lost . I watched one wheel cock in the air while the lass was mounting a ditch...all drive lost.
Land rovers vcu system in the freelander mk1 was similar , detected slip and locked.
Or more commonly locked up solid 🙂
A car with such a low centre of gravity and weight? Sure.
Out of intrest were does it state it's awd? I couldn't see that but I only glanced over it. I've seen it state it's electric 4wd meaning you can't select the rear wheels they just engage when the front struggle. I like mine, fuels not great and it's a bit slow but I bought another car I want to keep clean and the miles off so I'm happy with it. It's a good but boring work horse.
hora - Member
What standard cars do you class as better?
I'd be as happy in a mondeo, golf and many other things. I did enough in the forester to be assured it just a thirsty car that moves all the wheels at once.
Sounds similar to the Haldex system fitted to some VAG cars.
Were abouts? I can't see were it says AWD?
As ive said in th past , you know that many 4x4s are only 2wd under duress,
Unless it has axle lockers, a centre diff only splits the power front to rear , you can still have one wheel stationary on each axle.....
fuels not great and it's a bit slow but I bought another car I want to keep clean and the miles off so I'm happy with it. It's a good but boring work horse.
yup, my experience. only got shot of mine when i moved to town and wanted better fuel economy
😐
Slow news day? Honda have been making them like this since 95.
Works surprisingly well for what it is.
Ours was a mk1, not sure what they're trying to achieve by limiting the new models though.
One of my other cars is a 435d xdrive, it seems to work similarly and you can certainly feel the switch from RWD on the rare occasion it's kicked in.
I remember this debate when I had 2005 crv.
Why now?
rone - Member
I remember this debate when I had 2005 crv.
Why now?
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Hora wants to show a car he doesn't have anymore is better than a car he's never had.
King' under safety.
I've never owned a CRV. I've driven one and it felt like being sat on 3 matrrsses. I'm on my 2nd forester currently.
Why are some stw'ers like angry, angst-ridden hungover men? 😆
Should have got a quattro!
It says 4wd? Not AWD?
Why are some stw'ers like angry, angst-ridden hungover men?
No idea, but really playing my soft roader is better than your soft roaded is getting there....
No idea, but really playing my soft roader is better than your soft roaded is getting there....
Indeed and you started it hora.
I don't think anyone is angry, just confused at what specific point your trying to make with this thread, other than to suggest a forester is a more capable vehicle (which isn't really going to be a shock to anyone).
Anyway you said your waiting to import a Land Cruiser once you get that you can compare it to a mini or something.
I like subarus but parts cost on a forrestor would put me off as I don't need a real 4x4, and they are equally as dull as my crv.
Dull? I really fancied one of these for a while, but was put off by stories of Subaru engines spontaneously imploding and the madly expensive cost to buy. Nevertheless, with around 240bhp, I imagine they're anything but dull.
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Didn't really read all the CRV article, but I did own a rear wheel biased AWD car for a time, and I can only describe it as incredible in all weathers. I totally loved it.
Had two CRVs. They are Haldex coupled, so no diff lock. In practice, I've driven mine over muddy fields and up snow covered hills. The system works fine and you know when the rear drive has kicked in.
Based on my family's experience, I'd struggle to call Land Rover Freelanders "vehicles" at all. Ours seemed to be forever waiting for another new engine. The Range Rover was no better and has now been off road as in off THE road for a year waiting for a replacement engine. 😉
BTW: The new 1.6 diesel really is 2WD and about 110 kg lighter than the AWD 2.2 version.
I agree with Hora and the Honda response is a joke. The Subaru system is far superior.
I'd struggle to call Land Rover Freelanders "vehicles" at all.
Suggest you look up the word in a dictionary then 🙂
Our Freelander 2 happily both zips about town, and charges across deserts and over mountains. It also rescues 'real' 4wds such as Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers. Its rear diff has failed once, which it shouldn't have, it also had some electrical gremlins affecting the fuel level sender. It's not perfect, but it seems to do a very good job both off and on road, which is what we bought it for, as it's our only vehicle.
My Father in Law has bought a 2013 plate one recently. He thinks its only 2wd.
Does it in fact have some 4wd capability? (serious question)
FunkyDunc - Member
My Father in Law has bought a 2013 plate one recently. He thinks its only 2wd.
Does it in fact have some 4wd capability? (serious question)
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Yes, kind of. It's FWD but if the front wheels are under duress power is sent to the back also. It's not manually selectable. I wouldn't consider it very capable at all as an off road vehicle though if that's what you meant.
My Forester wasn't great on mud. No way to lock the diff(s), and I don't think they were any electronics to help. I've now got an X-Trail which has a diff lock switch and some electronics to help, and seems better in the same (or worse) mud. Both had A/T tires.
I own a 2003 mk2 CRV but drive Discovery 4, BMW X5 twin turbos and the odd basic freelander at work. I used to own an Impreza. The Crv is better than the x5 and impreza but not as good as the discovery and about on par with the freelander in axle deep snow and muddy tracks.
I don't really care what a nonsensical unrealistic test says about any car. Real world is the important bit.
Zokes' annual retelling of the big truck rescue story!
That test does seem pretty unrealistic and Honda have explained why the system doesn't work in those circumstances. It even explains why it starts to slide off the rollers after a certain time.
Not sure what the issue is....if they had managed to demonstrate the same issue on a wet field or muddy lane, then yes....they might have a point.
Can't remember the last time I came across a load of material transfer rollers on the road, but I'll be sure to look out for them, and if I find myself in a crv I'll try not to stop my front wheels on them!
The other AWD cars did OK.