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Acceptable? Overtly aggressive show of masculinity? Something we all wish we'd do but in reality know we would back down from?..
Will it help the situation?
What would it achieve that a public calling out of ****tery wouldn't?
Violence won't stop someone being an ignorant pillock.
Back to when is something done for comedic effect and when is something just plain insulting. See the Jimmy Carr controversy.
I’m not condoning it, but don’t underestimate, the pressure of being in a stressful situation, then hearing someone take the piss out of someone you love and their medical condition and battle to deal with it. How many of us would possibly fly off the handle in such a situation? We may say we wouldn’t but the reality may be quite different.
There are certain situations that are thoroughly deserving of giving someone a slap
That was one of them IMHO.
I've seen a lot of people saying Will lost the plot.
He reacted with human emotion.
Maybe it wasn't the right thing to do, but I think he'll get a lot of empathy over it, even if people don't say it aloud.
There are certain situations that are thoroughly deserving of giving someone a slap
What, because he's Chris Rock? I agree. I'd cheerfully punch him in the face for no reason whatsoever.
I understand him hitting him, fine, everyone has emotions but for the rest of us there are consequences to these actions.
I dont understand why he wasnt then removed from the premises and was still allowed to to take to the stage, take his oscar, the glory and the limelight.
The Oscars have basically said that they think violence is ok and that if someone says something you dont like its ok to hit them.
You mean that wasn’t scripted…
I think it was staged.
He was sitting in just the right spot and if he was really that angry, why did he only slap him?
It all over the news and social media.
If it was real then he would be will be speaking to his lawyers. No legal action then it's fake.
I like how he decided to hit someone he was pretty sure wasn't going to hit him back.
That's the real test of manliness.
He should have hit him harder.
Violence is never the right thing to do.
He should have used his moment on stage to have said how disgusted he was of the comments made by Chris Rock.
He should have hit him harder.
If it was The Rock and not Chris Rock he would have had to.
Of course, he wouldn't have gone anywhere near The Rock.
Well he's got into a fight, did his mom get scared and will she send him to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air?
I like how he decided to hit someone he was pretty sure wasn’t going to hit him back.
And how exactly was he 'pretty sure' of that then?
Surely in giving anyone, whoever it is, a slap then you're fully aware you're going to get a reaction. You'd have to be an idiot not too
Staged.
I think it was staged.
My thoughts too, Rock seems to position himself ready for it. Also, even if not pressing charges, would the Police not have to get involved anyway?
And how exactly was he ‘pretty sure’ of that then?
Surely in giving anyone, whoever it is, a slap then you’re fully aware you’re going to get a reaction. You’d have to be an idiot not too
Chris Rock doesn't get paid based on how much of a Hollywood Alpha Male the world perceives him to be. Other stars do.
He attacked someone who had no interest in punching him right back in the face and even if he did, Smith probably fancied his chances.
Hit someone who is more likely to punch you back and you'll come across as less pathetic.
Wasn't Will Smith suggesting a couple of days ago that the hardest part of the oscars is getting people to watch it?
Well he’s got into a fight, did his mom get scared and will she send him to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air?
Bravo.
Of course, he wouldn’t have gone anywhere near The Rock.
The Rock wouldn't have made such a shitty joke in the first place though. He's a gent.
Staged.
The BBC report points out that Smith also dropped an F-bomb, which is a massive no-no in the Oscars live show, so it was probably not staged.
And it mentions Rock's previous gag about her, which was still a bit mean but was actually funny.
Theres a bit of me that says that the golden globes has become a giant roast and Chris Rock wanted some of that attention, and also Will Smith cirtainly can't be in a good head space at the moment to assault someone live on TV in front of the world.
Both did the wrong thing at the wrong time....
Well he’s got into a fight, did his mom get scared and will she send him to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air?
But I did lol at that 👆
interesting to have some entertainment news that is distracting from how f'd the real world is - first time in weeks a non Ukraine story is In the top news stories. Not sure if that's good or bad.
even if not pressing charges, would the Police not have to get involved anyway?
But it's Hollywood, we all know that you have to "press charges" if you want the police to do things.
😀
Don’t mess with the boy from west Philly.
chakaping
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The BBC report points out that Smith also dropped an F-bomb, which is a massive no-no in the Oscars live show, so it was probably not staged.
conveniently, the audio had already been muted by that point
Someone else interviewed at an after party pointed out that three people had lost in that "fight" - Rock, Smith and Smiths wife.
Not convinced it was staged - MrsMC is disabled and I've lost it a couple of times when people have used it against her, or even made more general comments about her condition. A couple of times on here.
Hit someone who is more likely to punch you back
What would be the point of that?
conveniently, the audio had already been muted by that point
I've seen the full lcip - he says "get my wife's name out of your F ing mouth" twice..
Hmm..i think real..
DrP
Someone else interviewed at an after party pointed out that three people had lost in that “fight” – Rock, Smith and Smiths wife.
I don't think it will do Smith or his wife any harm at all.
What would be the point of that?
In an ideal world you wouldn't hit anyone.
However, if you're going to hit someone, make sure it's someone who won't just sit back and take it.
That makes you a bully and a scumbag.
What, because he’s Chris Rock? I agree. I’d cheerfully punch him in the face for no reason whatsoever.
+1
A very punchable face.
Theres a bit of me that says that the golden globes has become a giant roast and Chris Rock wanted some of that attention,
Probably didn't even write the 'joke'.
But yeah, turning awards ceremonies into comedy roasts is a slightly risky move. I guess they are getting talked about, which is what they wanted.
However, if you’re going to hit someone, make sure it’s someone who won’t just sit back and take it.
So by your logic anyone smaller than you is free to insult your wife, anyone bigger, not so?
Righto...
Should have walked out with his Mrs, would have been a stronger thing to do.
But do understand the emotion.
I think if they're smaller, but like, hard as nails, for example Begbie or Jackie Chan, that's allowed.
But what if they're bigger, but in a non-threatening way, like John Candy or Stephen Merchant?
It's so confusing.
No excuse for hitting someone, it makes me suspect that he has a temper that other people have felt.
He could have made a much more powerful message.
It was weird, Chris Rock did it in a lighthearted way, this wasn't a Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr style joke.
I do get the feeling a lot of people aren't in love with the Smith family, they're always having their polyamorous marriage and kids front and centre on the TV, i just think Will Smith is just a bit of an arse, that acceptance speech shows him thinking about the consequences and going into Will Smith mode.
Reluctantjumper wins thread 👏 🙂
So by your logic anyone smaller than you is free to insult your wife, anyone bigger, not so?
Righto…
Yes, it's one of the drawbacks of being big. It's a tough life.
Although I wouldn't say people are free to insult your wife. You do realise hitting people isn't your only option?
You can use your words and if you're really good at it the person who insulted your wife will get so upset they'll take a swing at you and then you can smack them to your hearts content.
Understandable and acceptable are two different things. Unfortunately by doing nothing about it, the Academy is tacitly saying it's acceptable.
I think if they’re smaller, but like, hard as nails, for example Begbie or Jackie Chan, that’s allowed.
I was actually thinking the same myself after I'd typed it. I'm thinking of a mad Glaswegian I used to work with who was about 5'2" and about 7 stone, dripping wet through in a donkey jacket, but was an absolute psychopath