[Closed] hey mods, over here......

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Give it up Paul. You're an old man now, with stupid hair. And yer music's shite.

"We are the mods,
We are the mods,
We are, we are, we are the mods!"

Fab film 🙂

Actually I used to love [url=

Town Called Malice'[/url] when I was little, and would bash a pot with a wooden spoon when it came on the radio. My mum wasn't best pleased and banished me to my room.

The Who were proper sh1te though weren't they ?

Never did write that book did you Pete.

The Jam rock!

I remember 2 years ago in a team meeting with our senior manager, who is in his mid to late 50s, and his phone started ringing and the ring tone was A Town Called Malice!

My respect for him increased significantly 🙂

Never did write that book did you Pete.

Ha ha!

Pete Townshend wrote a play about the time he once spent on top of a building.

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The who weren't really mods though were theywhen they were the high.numbers they played some shit that tried to draw the mods in

**** a mod today

My dad was in quadrophenia he said that it really did kick off with the rockers in the film

Agree with Ringo.

More hippy than mod :

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And shite pretentious music without any soul or beat.

Luuuuuurve those curls. 8)

says the hippy girl................I rest my case.

Lol at people having a go at the 'oo. They were a great band in the 60s and for half the 70s. A better run than most. Some great songs, some dodgy but better than most.

Wish I still had my Lammy SX200 that I sold for £195 34 years ago

Nostalgia mending it in the rain half way to morecambe on a bank holiday
and nearly freezing to death trying to sleep on the beach

Funny that Roger Daltrey playted John McVicar in a film, and in one scene the cons are all shouting 'Sex case sex case 'ang 'im 'ang 'im 'ang 'im!'

Pete Townshend wasn't in that film.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Isn't that the case in this country of ours?

Still odd though.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Hmmm..

And he's made some truly Godawful music.

Ringo - Member

The who weren't really mods though were theywhen they were the high.numbers they played some shit that tried to draw the mods in

I remember an interview with the Who on Nationwide, many, many, many years ago during their transition into mods, the reply to the question of changing style was quite simple, " if our managers want us to be mods, we're mods. If they want us to be rockers, we're rockers."

Indeed - innocent until proven guilty, and not charged with any form of sexual assault on minors, so "Fiddler on the Roof" is pretty lame.

the Whoe [i]were[/i] mods, they just moved on a bit. The Beatles went from 'Hey Hey Mr Postman' to 'I am the Walrus' in 4 years - everyone changes.

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I saw both the Jam and The Who in the late 70's there were as many mods at each. But less Skinheads and Punks at the Who and consequently less fighting.

'Hey Hey Mr Postman' to 'I am the Walrus' in 4 year

Did you listen to that documentary about Lennon too?

The who were never mods they were told to attract the mod crowds by there management they were a normal pop band
Like don Simon said

Ringo - Member

The who were never mods they were told to attract the mod crowds by there management they were a normal pop band
Like don Simon said

mods were just a brand of pop music in the 60's and late 70's, they are not mutualy exclusive.

mods were just a brand of pop music in the 60's and late 70's, they are not mutualy exclusive.

Tosh. Mod was a youth culture which began in the 50's until the mid to late 60's (although still exists to a certain extent).

Small Faces were the true mods!

Keep the Faith

From wikipedia

The Small Faces were an English [b]rock and roll band[/b] from east London

Must be true then! 😯

I'd better go and sell my Lambretta's and hang up my parka. I know nothing about the lifestyle i've been living for years!

mods were just a brand of pop music in the 60's and late 70's, they are not mutualy exclusive.

Utter bollocks.

[i]Utter bollocks.[/i]

Like most of the opinions on this thread

[i] I know nothing about the lifestyle i've been living for years[/i]

better change hte "futureboy" login then, are you a weller clone?, there are a couple by me, but they are authentic, they look in their 50's and past it too 🙂

'Hey Hey Mr Postman' to 'I am the Walrus' in 4 years

Did you listen to that documentary about Lennon too?

That was freaking me out, I knew I'd just heard that very phrase! I think it's on the trail though as I didn't listen to a whole programme

are you a weller clone?,

Definitely not. I just happen to like the clothes, soul music and scooters.
There is more to mod than Paul Weller! 😕

mods... modernisers or something like that ? a bunch of metrosexuals.

Kev

mods... modernisers or something like that ? a bunch of metrosexuals.

Modernists.

As an aside, have you seen what that ****hole form Oasis is charging for a Parka in his new clothing line, £245! I used to pay £20 for mine from the Army and Navy, albeit a good few years ago now.

[i]Definitely not. I just happen to like the clothes, soul music and scooters.
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thank goodness for that,they do look a little sad.

sorry, reading my post back it sounds agressive and nasty, wasn't meant to be i assure you

As an armchair sociologist I find Mod very interesting.

I used to hang out on the fringes of the Leicester Mod scene and found it to be a very curious social phenomeneon where everyone was desperate to prove that someone else wasn't as 'Mod' as they were by striving to find an unwritten rule book that defined their subculture.

It's like everyone was trying to take it back to be more authentic than it was at the time. As a pervading social movement I can't find much evidence for it's duration, I supose it might be a bit like the Blur V Oasis period of the mid-ninties might be perceived in twenty years time?
Did many bands at the time define themselves as Mod? - Was it a bit like Grunge in this respect?

Discus
1500 words, on my desk by Wednesday morning, that'll be all class.

£350 for a vintage M51 parka now!!!!

Edit: No worries RocketDog....i happen to agree with you about Weller clones!

£350 for a vintage M51 parka now!!!!

OMG I had 3, I threw them out when I stopped being a Mod.

I seen the Who twice and am only 35. They're ace live.

Oh and Rog has got a fishing lake on his land in the shape of a fish. Now THAT's rock and roll kids!

Tim

Did many bands at the time define themselves as Mod? - Was it a bit like Grunge in this respect?

Yes and no, some bands had Mod style like the Small Faces and The Action, but the Music that Mods listened to went deeper then British bands, they listened to Motown, Stax, R&B etc, the early Modernists were even into Jazz they were the pioneers of Mod, it was a Cafe Culture and yes they were very Metrosexual.

Practical Matt, if you are genuinely interested, Richard Barnes' book "Mod: A very british phenomenon" is worth a read.

I liked Chris Tarrant's comment...
"I was a mod myself, until I saw how big the rockers were." 😀

Another Richard Barnes book which was very influential for me, it was like my bible..

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Mods - spotty youths who rode around on unreliable foul handling fairy bikes, smelled of man perfumes. Aspired to owning a Mini. Listened to crap music.

Rockers -rode proper motorbikes, smelled of petrol, gunk, and swarfega. Hotter girlfriends. Aspired to owning a faster motorbike. Music was a reverse cone mega.

Thanks FB, I'll have a look.

I used to witness arguments and snubs as someone's suit had three buttons but a single vent instead of a double so he 'wasn't Mod' and couldn't hang out with them etc hilarious really, I'm sure that in 1965 somone might have had a bop to my generation in such attire and not been piloried.

As an obesrvation I did also notice a significant amount of verbal abuse of girlfriends and general aggresion at the end of Mod nights that I can only attribute to a night spent feeling like the ace face and on top of the world in your sharp whistle&flute only to be suddenly faced with the next day back behind the counter in W H Smiths or similar when the lights came up. Likewise when I DJ'd at events where the Jamm played and other similar tributes, the air of simering violence was really remarkable. Is this usual or was I just at the wrong clubs?

Separated at Birth Brad & Paul 😆

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Surely it's one of those intangibles: although not as much of a youthquake as punk it's kind of similar in that there'll be folks out there who'd argue it was over within a couple of years and anyone saying otherwise is clinging to the rubble of clichés then there'll be others who'll say it evolved into something quite different and then there'll be the diehards dreaming of past glories etc.

In the version of music history that i prefer the Who were right in on the start of psychedelia via the freakbeat feedback solo in "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" (inspired by free jazzer Charlie Parker) - for 1965 they were way ahead of the game and stayed there through the evolution of rock into the early 70s. They didn't come up with the first 'rock opera' though, the magnificent Pretty Things did that with S.F.Sorrow. I'll shut up now before I start going on a bit...

I remember this from when I was about ten years old...

Time for Action - Secret Affair

and this... doesn't quite sound like it used to when I was a kid! it's a bit naff really.

Lambrettas D-a-a-n-c-e

Kev

just as a side note - Richard Barnes was a very good friend of those 'non mods' the who...

Nicely put, epicyclo. 😉

Having spent most of my adult life riding motorbikes and working on building sites or in garages, I have met loads of older blokes who would reminisce about their life as a rocker. In all that time, I [i]never[/i] met anyone who openly admitted to having been a mod. Now they're all coming out on STW.

Looks like rockers grow up to become builders and mechanics, mods grow up to become fat, middle aged IT managers.

this thread's gone horribly wrong...

wwaswas - Member

the Whoe were mods, they just moved on a bit.

I saw both the Jam and The Who in the late 70's there were as many mods at each.

Yeah The Who might have been "mod" in the late 70's, but they were a decade out.
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Futureboy77 - Member

Small Faces were the true mods!

Spot on.

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Stevie Marriott

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MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member

Looks like rockers grow up to become builders and mechanics, mods grow up to become fat, middle aged IT managers.

Complete bollox. In the sixties the mods were part of the inner-city British working class youth culture. Whilst hippies and dirty long haired wannabe Hells Angels greasers, were from the posh leafy suburbs and thought everything American was cool ..... sad losers 😐

johnners - Member
Indeed - innocent until proven guilty, and not {pete townshend] charged with any form of sexual assault on minors, so "Fiddler on the Roof" is pretty lame.

Complete bollox. In the sixties the mods were part of the inner-city British working class youth culture.

To be honest though, the ones that could afford the nice clobber were mainly from the slightly more affluent end of things. I always thought 70s Mods looked bloody daft. As did most subcultures really. As they still do today. Mod fashion and style was as much a media marketing creation as all other. British Punk was a 'movement' founded by two middle class kids from Goldsmiths.

It's all about making money for music companies and the fashion industry. Anyone who thinks any different is sadly deluded. Youth fashions aren't dreamt up in council estates, or trendy bars, they're carefully planned in corporate offices by men in suits, advised by some arty farty types from St Martins.

Mod fashion in particular was a load of toss. They couldn't even get decent motorbikes ffs.

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Paul Weller always had bad hair but he wrote some great tunes. I like to appreciate him with my ears not my eyes. 😉

I still have a PX125 and I love it.

Complete bollox. In the sixties the mods were part of the inner-city British working class youth culture. Whilst hippies and dirty long haired wannabe Hells Angels greasers, were from the posh leafy suburbs and thought everything American was cool ..... sad losers

Lol. If you want to glorify the most hungrily consumerist subculture 'til the yuppies (verrrry similar) feel free. And I've a feeling the greasers would've liked to have had a word about being lumped in with the hippies - most greasers were from a trad industrial background and the mods were making their money from the expansion of the service industries. And then the long-haired drop-out 'freaks' who started most of the squats in London and were associated with what ended up being called the cultureculture despised the hippies and were pretty much anti-American.

So, I'm guessing the, "Complete bollox," was a warning about what was coming.

I had a couple of Lambrettas in the late 70's / early 80's (LI 150 and GP 200), but gravitated (or that could be deviated, take your pick) to Buells and Harleys. Still love the Jam and Paul Weller, and if I could afford / justify it to the wife, I'd get a Vespa GTV as well. For what it's worth, I never really liked the Who, Townshend's 'research' just made me feel justified in disliking them even more.

British Punk was a 'movement' founded by two middle class kids from Goldsmiths.

If it's not DIY, it's not punk. 🙄

Youth fashions aren't dreamt up in council estates, or trendy bars, they're carefully planned in corporate offices by men in suits, advised by some arty farty types from St Martins.

2 Tone wasn't. I doubt that the whole E inspired dance/indy scene of the 80/90's was either. Definately street culture.

Mod fashion and style was as much a media marketing creation as all other

You understand absolutely nothing about the sixties.

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I've a feeling the greasers would've liked to have had a word about being lumped in with the hippies

Yup, I've always lumped greasers with hippies. Although I had considerable more time for hippies...........greasers were truly sad ****ers.

Circa 1964 I wore a parka and rode around on a Lambretta. We trawled around the pubs, bowling alleys & snooker halls of downtown Bradford, Keighley, Leeds and Halifax. Did the Clacton and Gt Yarmouth venues mainly to hear music from Radio Caroline which had just started. Back then we only had Radio Luxembourg & listened to 'tranies' at 11pm every Sunday for the top twenty hour (ah the memories!). When Radio 270 (two-seven-o) moored off Scarborough we went there at weekends. There was the odd punchup between mods and rockers but not really big like the south coast ones.
Then I bought a car and someone took me hillwalking in the lakes and there started a lifelong love of the outdoors.

rode around on a Lambretta. We trawled around the pubs, bowling alleys & snooker halls of downtown Bradford, Keighley, Leeds and Halifax. Did the Clacton and Gt Yarmouth venues mainly to hear music from Radio Caroline which had just started....... Then I bought a car and ......

.....and you were able to enter the kiss-in-the-car contest ! 😀

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I like this thread. Everyone elses memories are making me feel young 8)

PMSL that this thread is still going!

Having spent most of my adult life riding motorbikes and working on building sites or in garages, I have met loads of older blokes who would reminisce about their life as a rocker. In all that time, I never met anyone who openly admitted to having been a mod.

Funny that. All the mods (my father included) i know or knew are working class. Much like the other youth movements to follow: the skinheads, football casuals (which is widely accepted as a continuation of mod...not that i'm condonoing football violence),

Mod fashion in particular was a load of toss. They couldn't even get decent motorbikes ffs

That picture is a late 90's/00's scooter with plastic mod mirrors. The whole mirror thing lasted about 6 months in the 60's, but because it was in Quadro it must be true! 🙂 Do some research!

2 Tone wasn't. I doubt that the whole E inspired dance/indy scene of the 80/90's was either. Definately street culture.

Amen!

Well back to the second post paul weller is not great now tbh, but his first solo album paul weller still stands up well now i think, certainly amngst my top5 90s albums.

He was a briliant songwriter for a bit at least.....

I wonder where my Lambretta SX150 is now........ ah! Happy days ... wearing my crombie, skinner jeans (or two tone trousers), doc martins, ben sherman shirts - and no helmets 😯 - where the **** has 40 years gone!

( i wasn't strictly a mod - more a smoothie!)

As I remember it most of the scooters were clapped out crap, customising consisted of brush painted features, accessories consisted of 2 mirrors at most and perhaps one foglight (there wasn't the electrical power to drive more than that), and the parka was about the only waterproof overcoat that could be afforded by an indigent under 21 year old. Never understood it, but back then hardly any of them rode their scooters far - you could spot a mod run to the coast by the trail of forlorn figures beside broken scooters along the road. Mods were all about posturing and image. Pathetic really.

I never heard the term greasers until the 70s - we was rockers. Not glamorous, it was hard yakka. We lived for the bikes and going as fast as possible, and we were the only thing on 2 wheels from December to March. Black fingernails, skinned knuckles, oil impregnated jeans that could stand up on their own, impervious to cold, a panda look from road dirt around our goggles, bugs in our teeth in summer, and every penny going into the bike. Frequent police harassment any time more than 2 of us rode together. Still we had the joys of 100mph (legal) on empty winding roads, no helmet, and the music of a megaphone on a big single. We had a ****ing great time.

ok................ greaser eh! ... you looking at me ... eh! do you want some .. do ya!

I never heard the term greasers until the 70s

Don't know where you lived, but in the late sixties in Peckham, the term 'greaser' was used to described anyone with a motorbike/leather jacket. And the word 'greaser' was almost always preceded by the word 'dirty'.

Nah, I had mates who rode scooters. I rode one 100 yards, got off and pushed it back, they were that foul.

The owner then had a go on my bike, but only got 10 feet before it flipped back on top off him. Luckily it wasn't scratched or bent 🙂

(I lived in the North of Scotland and also down in So'ton - never went near London except to buy bike bits. And yeah, I suppose you could say we were dirty 🙂 )

Black fingernails, skinned knuckles, oil impregnated jeans that could stand up on their own, impervious to cold, a panda look from road dirt around our goggles, bugs in our teeth in summer, and every penny going into the bike. Frequent police harassment any time more than 2 of us rode together.

Wow, sounds like a real barrel of monkeys

trailmonkey - Member
Wow, sounds like a real barrel of monkeys

It wasn't about appearances, it was about the feeling you get when you strap out a bike on the right road.

I think you have to take drugs these days to get anything like that feeling 🙂

I seem to remember extremely high mortality rates amongst the greasers in my locality, young lads, no real licence required, on a bike of any capacity .......... with no helmet 😯

I'm an Odd.

We lost a few, but I lost more of my climbing mates in this country.

My time in Oz was worse - lost 3 friends in 3 consecutive weekends in the 70s plus the usual toll of cripplings and maimings.

I'm an Odd.

Have you got the Oddie hair style ?

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I'd better go and sell my Lambretta's and hang up my parka.

Go on then buy a proper bike like a Triumph and a leather jacket

One or two old buggers on here 😉

pennine - Member
One or two old buggers on here

Officially ancient, but not so old and frail as to need gears yet...