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As above, I tried the MS tool to download the ISO file to a DVD, if failed, without explanation. I am no expert but I can usually get stuff like this sorted.
Any help appreciated.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10
This way? Try it with a USB
Hmmm oddly but happily it seems to be working now
Got it boot off dvd, it did stuff then told me to boot normally. Can't work out how in the BIOS.
There's usually a 'Boot' submenu in the BIOS, & you can move devices up & down the list - enable & move your SSD up to the top. You can always hit F12 / F10 (or whatever it is on your PC) to manually select the boot device if required.
Got it boot off dvd, it did stuff then told me to boot normally. Can't work out how in the BIOS.
Take the DVD out.
Take the DVD out.
🙂
Al sometimes these things can be quite tempremental at first, I have had to do Mac OSX installs more than one sometimes even if I think I am following the exact same steps 😕
So you bought a new laptop and went straight for an SSD upgrade ?
Jeez Cougar, harsh.
I have the BIOS menu up, there's no clear thing to change to get it to boot off hd.
Yeah £25 SSD, sell the 1TB as nearly new to cover it (lemonade lifestyle here)
What laptop make/model?
Jeez Cougar, harsh.
that seems sensible advice though - allows you to keep boot from dvd as first option.
Jeez Cougar, harsh.I have the BIOS menu up, there's no clear thing to change to get it to boot off hd.
Wasn't meant to be. Point was, if you've swapped a hard disk for an SSD, you shouldn't have to change anything. Even if the boot order is a bag of washing it should still fall through to the HDD eventually.
Hmmm ok ta
Just keeps going back to bios.
Might I have to do something to the SSD other than plug it in?
Install Windows on it? (-:
When you say it keeps going "back to BIOS" what do you mean? It's failing to find a boot device and rebooting?
You shouldn't need to do anything with the disk as the Windows installer should sort out all the boot partitioning etc. It might be worth explicitly flattening the drive during setup; I can't remember the exact Windows 10 parlance but it's something like selecting a custom install and then choosing to "keep nothing." Delete everything off the SSD if it gives you the option, then install to the free space you've created.
Presumably there's an pre-existing HDD which has been removed prior to this?
Yes.
SSD I blank I hope, brand new.
These the 1TB hdd has W10 on it.
i am not a windows expert but if the machine has a completely blank ssd in it its not going to boot up on its own
I think ypu need to put w10 on it from the dvd or boot from a bootable usb stick (think you can do this, you can on a mac)
It does seem to suggest that win10 didn't install properly on the disk. I would try again, possibly from a usb stick just to change things a bit. Its always worked for me from usb so far
^^^ this
As I said I have fresh installs on Macs fail to work sometimes.
Are you sure you installed W10 to the ssd after it booted from the dvd or did it never boot from the dvd becuase this iso thing didn't work ? You might have to out the hdd back in to make a bootable usb or do that from another computer, not sure as I am not a windows expert (but won't let that stop me "contributing" 😉 )
I dunno, windows install did stuff then told me to reboot without dvd (ie using disc, ssd) which i presumed meant it mafemade it bootable.
Ill but a USB then shame sd won't cut it!
Try same again, nothing to lose.
It does sound like the dvd did its stuff. The only other possibility is that you have the boot order set to dvd only so it never checks the hdd. You've already checked though and couldn't find the setting. Maybe try posting up the make of lappie here and someone else with a similar machine could look on theirs?
Ta. Just fired up original hdd and it boots fine off that. The ISO file on the dvd is Trying to install w10.
It's not Asus x553m
[img] https://flic.kr/p/HmAmTC [/img]
If it works off the original HDD then your bios setting is likely to be fine. I would try again using a USB stick. It might be something else of course but that would be my attempt
Al, post a pic of the main & advanced screens as well
One thing you could try, is there a Secure Boot option in BIOS? Try disabling that.
i am not a windows expert but if the machine has a completely blank ssd in it its not going to boot up on its own
Hush, then. (-:
A bare SSD will not boot, correct; however if you've successfully run the W10 installer then the install process should make it bootable at the point where it tells you to remove the media.
I can only assume that the install went south somehow. Like I said, I'd try again but make sure to wipe the drive rather than any sort of variation on an "upgrade" install.
USB is worth trying - if nothing else, it's considerably faster than DVD - but the actual process should be identical regardless of media. What did you use to burn the .ISO to disc?
Ta. The windoze software did the dvd, and there's stuff in the dvd, so I assumed I was ok. It verified
Can't have gone too far wrong if it actually ran the installation, TBF.
I was going to suggest posting it to me to sort if you're absolutely stuck, but after your usage of "windoze" I'm tempted to rescind that offer. (-:
FWIW, I reinstalled W10 on my pc the other day (trying to sort a problem that, ultimately, had nothing to do the OS)
Used a USB stick which loaded all the files and did an installation but then went back to the "do you want to install windows; agree to the terms" prompt and would've continued doing that all day if I'd said yes (which I did 1st time round). Next time I just exited at that point and booted - installation is absolutely fine; it's activated and updated and works as normal. Could it be that's what you're seeing Al ?
Like I said at the outset: you need to remove the installation media.
I have remove the damn dvd!
Ah ok. From the screen shot it looks likes it wants to upgrade rather that do a clean installation so it needs you to boot into windows first which of course you can't do as the ssd is empty. I'm sure I've done a clean install before though
runs off to look
edit:
runs back
did you use the media creation tool to create your dvd?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
I normally use that to create the usb drive
Actually what I really prefer to do here normally is just to clone the existing drive as then I get all of the drivers and programs as well. Your original drive is 1TB which will be bigger than your SSD but you can normally use the disk tools to shrink that 1TB drive down first so that the clone works. You do of course need a disk caddy for that but they are only 5-10 quid normally. But in any case I have done the clean install thing before and it should work for you so as before it might be best to go back to stage 1 and recreate either your dvd or a usb stick
OK ta. can I just copy all the shit from then original 1tb HDD to the ssd? hidden files too and all that pish?
I think I used tat link. will check
If you do a clone it copies everything. The trick is to get the original small enough to clone. If everything is splattered all over the disk then you might not be able to shrink it small enough
Depending on the sort of new drive you bought then they may even provide the cloning software e.g. Samsung, but the software will only work with their disks. Otherwise you need to find something else
From that screenshot, it looks like you're trying to do an upgrade. Don't do that, do what I said ^^ and Keep Nothing. Ie, the first half of Leffe's post.
What I have been doing from the word go is using that tool.
Tried a USB stick. Same mother****ing result 😡
Try using the original hdd and booting into the bios. Can you see that hdd in the boot order list or anywhere else?
The do the same with the ssd and see if you can see it in the list.
I can't believe that your system cant see the disk otherwise im sure it would have bombed before now but its worth checking
Bios def sees new disk ok
Pal offered to take it on 🙂
Well, so I downloaded cloning software. It seems to want 2 discs to be connected at once. HTF do I do that on a laptop?
Anyway it'll then copy all the bloatware that I sincerely hope is the cause for the new laptop to be shit slow.
Another hour spent failing to progress and trying not to throw it out the window 🙁
you need a usb disk 'caddy'. They aren't expensive but most likely you can borrow one from a pal. If you already have a newish external hdd you could also just open that up and replace the hdd with your sddHTF do I do that on a laptop?
What cloning soft did you get?
btw, before you rush out to find/buy a caddy make sure you can do the other part of this step which is to be able to shrink your existing hdd down to the same size as the sdd. The built in disk tools can often do this otherwise you might want to check if the cloning software can but that is less likely
But at this point if you have a pal locally who can look over your shoulder it might be worth getting them to take a look as I find it surprising that it is going wrong as you have done similar things in the past with no problems. Most likely you have just missed a step early on that someone else might catch
Well I got it sorted, a bit of user error it seems.
SSD seems to be quite fast. HOpe I can find a faster browser than edge.
THanks all!
🙂 Is happy
If you've cloned it, you might need to enable TRIM.
Open an Administrator command prompt and type,
fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
If it returns 0 you're good. If it returns 1, you need to enable it. Type,
fsutil behavior set DisableNotify 0
Also, disable the defrag schedule, it's meaningless on an SSD. Type dfrgui in the Start menu, go into the schedule and turn it off.
Oh yeah, alignment.
Run msinfo32, go to components \ storage \ disks and look for Partition Starting Offset. Tell me what that figure says.
Ta.
I booted it off of the USB, seems I'd chosen the std install vs custom.
I formatted the 1tb disk (or all the partitions I could) that it came with, and a 320gb from the old one, using the windows install software on the usb, I have no way of checking this other than the fact the machine won't boot off of them, can I pass them on in confidence that passwords etc aren't saved on them?
I've never used it but dban is usually the software of choice for properly wiping a drive. A format doesn't clean the data, it just 'resets' things so the disk looks empty but the data might be recoverable. Disk wipe software will actually write junk data to the disk in a way that makes it impossible to recover. Ccleaner also has a disk wipe option
CHeers. I found a way of putting dban on a bootable usb drive.
Except it doesn't work 🙁
Ah well caddies £3 on 't 'bay