A good while ago, I answered the door to a couple of JH bods. It was really pissing down, so I let them shelter from the cold and the rain, and gave them a cup of tea. Had an inertesting chat about greed, and it's effects on our modern society. TBH, they din't manage to get much of their doctrine over to me, as I managed to steer the condversation away from that area, whenever it seemed to pop up.
Trouble is, ever since, they have been ringing my buzzer, wanting to chat. This happens every couple of weeks or so. Now, I wooduv thought, after several times of being told 'I'm a bit busy', they might get the massage, and not bother with me (I have told them I'm agnostic, and secure in my own beliefs).
I really don't want to be rude, or upset them, as they seem like nice (if ever so slightly confuddled) souls. But I just don't want them thinking they can continue to doorstep me, in the hope I can be 'converted'.
Any ideas on how I can gently persuade them I am in fact a Lost Cause, and not worth the time and bother?
I have no problem with their wanting to be who they are, it's just not for me. And endless condverstations on Christianity aren't going to change my mind.
No nasty or hateful suggestions please. I've no time for intolerance or malice.
School boy error.
You could tell them you've converted/reverted to Catholicism or Islam or what ever religion takes your fancy, or stop messing about and tell them that you really have no interest in their version of imagined silliness.
Invite them in again. Whilst you are chatting (and this is a vital component) maintain constant eye contact. Now, let your "best" hand nonchalantly stray to your groin. Maintain intense eye contact. Unzip, release and start furiously masturbating, whilst maintaining eye contact. Finish, wipe on the curtains, shake their hands and show then to the door whilst thanking them for their visit and saying how much you are looking forward to the next one.
I doubt they'll bother you again.
answer the door naked.
Not worth trying to explain why your not interested as this just a red rag to a bull - just tell them politely but firmly your not interested or stop answering the door to them or move..
See those suggestions are just childish and idiotic.
They believe it's their 'mission' to help others. They mean no malice.
Imagine you are out, and you see someone struggling to push start a car. You offer to help them. The expected response, from a decent person, would be 'Ah, nice one, cheers, that's very kind of you', or, 'no thanks, it's ok, but thanks all the same'. Imagine that they instead turned round and said 'f-you, f-off or I'll kick your head in', or, got their cobbly-bobblers out and started 'masturbating furiously'.
How would you feel? After all, you've only tried to offer help.
So, anyone got any intelligent and less insensitive suggestions?
I am aware that asking for religious tolerance on here is a dangerous game...
Next time let them in and show them some of your posts on here....chances are high that they will get bored to tears and never bother you again
Repack- problem is, that they've seen my giving them shelter and sustenance as an act of Christian kindness, and are convinced I am 'one of them'! I just really don't want to upset them; they seem like nice folk. Human beings.
RudiBoy; now [i]that's[/i] an idea.... 😀
Your problem was you showed sympathy in the first place, that was a fatal error and one that you will now suffer for for the rest of the time at that address.
You could get someone else to open the door, and say that the previous owner/tennant said that the Jehovahs witnesses kept bothering him and that you've moved out. Then the person doing your dirty work for you can do the usual slamming the door in the face etc.
I just never talk to them, just say no thank you and close the door, never ever try and have an even simple conversation with them as its exactly what they want.
[i]I just really don't want to upset them; they seem like nice folk. [/i]
So are most sales persons or they wouldn't sell...until you've signed on the line, as it were. What would you say to a double-glazing sales person who was cold calling?
They'll get the messsage eventually. Just keep on telling them that you're fine with your chosen way of life. Like you say, no need to get stroppy, or upset, but there's no harm in telling them not to come round again.
Yeah crikey has the answer ..... fancy telling them that you're an agnostic ffs - they would hardly have been doing their job if they just said, "OK in that case we won't bother you anymore" 😯
You should have told them that you're a muslim. On the extremely rare occasions that they come to me, I am very polite to them (I like Jehovas Witnesses - it's nice to know that someone cares enough to want to save your soul) and tell them that I am a Catholic. We exchange pleasantries, they remind me that I will probably go to hell, I promise to read the couple of copies of Watch Tower which they give me (and I usually do).
The whole thing lasts a couple of minutes, everybody is happy, and I don't see them again for several years. Job done.
Although I quite like Coyote's suggestion 😯
Just tell them politely that you are not interested and would appreciate it if they would stay away.
They will stay away if you ask them to.
Are you bothered by evangelizing JWs who keep coming to your door? Here’s a peaceful and non-hostile way to get your address on their “do not knock” list, and never be bothered by them again. Telling them that you’re a Christian already, or a Mormon, a Jew, or even a Satanist doesn’t work. They get fired up with the holy zeal of conversion.Simply say, “I was a Jehovah’s Witness myself; in fact, I was a Special Pioneer before I was disfellowshipped.” Say that to a JW and they’ll never come back.
Using the right jargon is crucial. Full-time door-to-door workers are called “Regular Pioneers”. Full-time door-knockers who have stricter quotas are called “Special Pioneers”. The door-to-door work is called “the Service”, and anyone who rejects the JW message is called a “goat”.
JWs can be disfellowshipped for many different reasons, including speaking to a disfellowshipped Witness, celebrating Christmas, reciting the pledge of allegiance, joining the military, or running for political office. Fellow members are then required to shun him or her completely, having no contact even if the disfellowshipped person is a family member. (From this article.) One former elder was even excommunicated for speaking out on sexual abuse.
I used this technique only once. Now, JWs will literally cross the street rather than walk in front of our house, in case I open the door and try to talk to them. Acknowledging my existence would get them disfellowshipped
From t'internet....
Just politely say you're not interested and you don't want to waste their time. It's honest and polite, and they'll respect that.
Rudeboy get yourself one of these for your front door mate guarranteed 100% JW safe 😆
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Lighten up for ffs.
It's easy. Invite them in. Explain you have sympathy with what they are trying to do but that you are really not interested as you are comfortable in your own beliefs. Point out that further visits will be viewed as harassment and you'd really rather not fall out with them.
Invite them in. Explain you have sympathy with what they are trying to do but that you are really not interested as you are comfortable in your own beliefs.
Oh aye. And replying to spam with 'unsubscribe' in the title is a good idea too.
MTFU and tell them politely and firmly not to bother you again.
I prefer the honest approach and you all know where you stand.
If you feel that is being insensitive then then you deserve all you get.
See, I wooduv thought that the number of times I've told them I'm 'too busy', would tell them I'm not really inertested. I must say, I admire their persistence.
As for 'deserving all I get', I spose a it of inconvenience is a small price to pay, to avoid upsetting someone who has nothing but good intentions, ultimately.
As for MingTFU; I'd say it's praps easier and weaker to be rude, than to take someone else's feeling into consideration.
Ah, sod it; they're not really doing anyone any harm.
This isnt meant with any malice but you have a lot in common with them RB.
You spread your slant on reality on STW and "preach" your nonsense to the unconverted
But unlike the "Hovis Biscuits" knocking at your door you are actually very critical of those who don't agree with you. A recent example being the guy who was unconvinced that the EU gravy train is good for the UK, you called him a xenophobe. I too have been called a nazi by you. A term you rightly deem to be very nasty which I'm sure you'll now back up with "proof".
Let them in, tell them why you dont agree with their beliefs and listen to how they deal with that. And maybe you might loose your blinkers a bit mate 😉
This is a genuine post and not intended to start another game of ping pong.
I'm off for a ride, can't believe I'm wasting good riding time typing!
Tell them you have started working unsocial hours, you now sleep at random times so can they email you there views, and possibly the pdf file of the latest watch tower.
Then pick some random STW'er's email address and give it to them...
(not mine though please!)
Imagine you are out, and you see someone struggling to push start a car. You offer to help them. The expected response, from a decent person, would be 'Ah, nice one, cheers, that's very kind of you', or, 'no thanks, it's ok, but thanks all the same'. Imagine that they instead turned round and said 'f-you, f-off or I'll kick your head in', or, got their cobbly-bobblers out and started 'masturbating furiously'.How would you feel?
I'd probably not feel like going back to that house.
Which I thought was the point.
A couple of the above posters have got it.
You just need to ask that they don't call again...apparently they are pretty good and keep a record of who doesn't want to be visited.
Pulls up chair....
Last time the door knockers came I was in a pair of too tight rugby shorts, with no tshirt on, my baby having spewed all over the one I had on. Said baby screaming in the background and a lady and her two teenager daughters turned up. Probably not the correct way to answer the door, but hey. Said lady had a look of horror on her face and muttered something about Jehovah. Said I wasn't interested thank you and that poor lady couldn't wait to get her impressionable children off my door step quick enough. That was the conversation and she had turned away before I shut the door.
Strangely enough I have never been bothered since. And I have seen them about quite abit. Maybe they have blackballed me, oh dear how sad!
This is a genuine post and not intended to start another game of ping pong.
So, why use this thread, where I'm asking for genuine advice, to have a pop at me then? 🙄
If I mean so much to you, I'll send you a signed picture. 😀
I have told them I'm agnostic, and secure in my own beliefs
Does that make sense?!
Yes. Perfectly.
strangely had an oldish lady tried to convert me whilst out on my bike, had stopped for a rest at a carpark at the local woods she started by telling me that jw's think cycling is the best from of transport did think this was a very wierd way in but politly told her that i have been a buddhist for the last 20years and wished her well,she responded by telling me that Budda wouldn't be able to save me from going to hell,rode off think that the last bit was a bit rude and unnessary.
fatsimon - she has a valid point though, buddha can't save you from going to someplace that doesn't exist.
however, it's a bit surprising that you haven't noticed that, where buddhists are generally polite individuals with respect for all living things, committed christians are usually arrogant ****s with no conception of anything outside their own blinkered and biased perspectives.
might seem excessive, but i recommend:
Come on in, old painless is waiting
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failing that keep Slayers "Reign In Blood" cue's up on the hi-fi ready to play next time they come around and get yourself done up like this
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she responded by telling me that Budda wouldn't be able to save me from going to hell,rode off think that the last bit was a bit rude and unnessary.
How was that 'rude and unnecessary' ffs ?
I think her informing you of your dire predicament, was really rather kind of her.
And presumably, she also felt it was rather important and necessary.
Ungrateful bashturd 🙁
committed christians are usually arrogant **** with no conception of anything outside their own blinkered and biased perspectives.
None of the ones I know are anything like that, actually.
And that's surely 'pots and kettles', there, BBSB... 🙄
You could try talking to them about Thatcher?
next time they come answer the door butt naked and ask if they want to come in for some fun.
Rudeboy I'd have thought you'd enjoy the attention.
Ah, sod it; they're not really doing anyone any harm.
Unless you are one of their children brainwashed into refusing medical treatment to combat curable diseases or blood transfusions post accident.
As for MingTFU; I'd say it's praps easier and weaker to be rude, than to take someone else's feeling into consideration
Who said be rude? certainly not me. I said be polite and firm. Have you ever had to split up from a partner? How did you do it?
why worry about being rude? They have failed to have any respect for your wishes so having made an attempt to be polite I would say that you have done more than they deserve.
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For £500 dollars I'll kill your shark and do your J.W. problem too.
Just don't answer the door anymore.
Or tell them you're on Nightshifts and not to be bothered.
Rudeboy not so rude?! 👿
i dont think you will get rid of them without being rude...my flatmate pretty much converted some JH's that came by our house into athiests...they never came back...thier probly having premarital intercourse right now....
i used to tell them that if it was'nt for a bllod transfusion i would'nt be alive, that does the trick. but these days i just thank them for caring about my soul and/or spiritual well being and politely but very firmly say i'm not interested and shut the door.
Who said be rude? certainly not me. I said be polite and firm. Have you ever had to split up from a partner? How did you do it?
You know of a polite way of saying "that's just sick and I'm not doing it any more" ?
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Things must have change dbecause our local JWs call even if you ask them not to. Cured by telling them I'm jewish i.e. unconvertable!
Perform an exorcism (in Latin) on them.
How can somebody can so "vocal" on an anonymous website and be rude and obnoxious in a virtual environment then lack the courage to explain themselves in plain English "face to face"
Attention seeker.
Little note on door saying on Nightshift. (They'll get the message.)
Or just MTFU and tell thanks but no thanks and they'll be fine.
No nastyness involved.
your interested or your not , if you are invite them back , if your not then tell them , dont waste there time , when they could be off anouying some poor other bugger,or failing all that tell them your off for a blood transfusion at 8.00 am.and havnt got time to stop.
Hmm, some reasonable suggestions, and some utter bilge. About what I expected.
I think I'll just stick to the 'sorry, I'm busy/jolly well have not got time for you' approach. Polite, and simple.
How can somebody can so "vocal" on an anonymous website and be rude and obnoxious in a virtual environment then lack the courage to explain themselves in plain English "face to face"
I'm far, far worse in 'real' life...
Unlike some people on here, I actually do have the balls to say what I think of someone, face to face. And, I can also appreciate the need for tact and sensitivity, when necessary.
You started this thread as a blatant cry for attention, then wandered off and got your knickers in a twist about Maggie Thatcher. Now you've gone all weepy and started playing the wounded soldier.
I think you need a lie down, maybe too much sugar this afternoon?
I actually do have the balls to say what I think of someone, face to face.
Clearly not, as this thread proves.
committed christians are usually arrogant **** with no conception of anything outside their own blinkered and biased perspectives.None of the ones I know are anything like that, actually.
Right - so you started a thread about some christians who came to your house and, because you're idiot enough to talk to them, just won't leave you alone. they won't leave you alone because they're determined to "save" you from whatever hell and damnation will happen to you if you don't join their club. and that's not being arrogant ****s with no conception of life outside their own blinkered perspectives.
Are you familiar with the word "crusade" by any chance, and it's meaning with relation to any current activities in Iraq?
Ask them who did the washing up at the last supper and don't you think it's a bit rough that Jesus's stag party went wrong and he got nailed to a cross.
Worked for me
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I don't how RudeBoy does it !
When I first saw this thread go up in which RudeBoy ask his ridiculous question about what he should do because he had invited Jehovas Witnesses for a cup of tea 'because it was raining', and how he had told them that he had an open mind about whether God existed or not, but how now they wouldn't leave him alone and what should he do, I thought "aye aye, the little bugger is up to mischief"
I played along and replied. But then, all the usual suspects came along to give him the reaction which he [i]really wanted[/i] ie : asked him why he hadn't just been he's normal gobby/nob self, and thereby giving him a chance to get into a good old slagging match with them 😀 Wonderful ! Suckers !
And good for you RudeBoy for making this forum a more interesting place !
But then, all the usual suspects came along to give him the reaction which he really wanted ie : asked him why he hadn't just been he's normal gobby/nob self, and thereby giving him a chance to get into a good old slagging match with them Wonderful ! Suckers !
Too true but a bit rich after being suckered into a catfight with that nasty bit of work on another thread! 😉
Do what my mum did!
Open the door with a sword in your hand and say,'Sorry I couldn't find my gun.' They never ever came back.
despite their weird beliefs most JWs are actually very normal people. I've always found that they completly accept "No thanks, I'm not interested".
I have a bit of history with a rather nice young woman who turned out to be a (married) JH, so you can take my word for it....
Erm, some of this is utter bolx, my wife's a witness. Rudeboy, just tell them your not interested, politly point out that you have no interest in religion and they will leave you alone. You wouldn't believe how organized they are, they have territories and routes they stick to. If you ignore them and don't answer the door they will make a note and come back another time. Just tell them not to bother and hey presto!
RB please don't confuse JW's with Christians - they will let you as it works in their favour, but Witnessing is not a form of Christianity. False religions etc.
Just tell them not to bother and hey presto!
Easy for you to say.
But RudeBoy isn't that sort of bloke. He's more "hey, don't stand there getting wet, come in, I'll put the kettle on. And yes I was thinking only today, perhaps there is a God" sort of guy.
He just simply couldn't bring himself be rude and impolite to people who irritate him.
LOL !
genghispod - try again. Christianity encompasses a mass of religions - including JW's. They won't let you believe anything, they are just people who don't pick the best bits to believe in and try to follow the whole of the bible's teachings. As with all things, it's interpretation.
And good for you RudeBoy for making this forum a more interesting place !
No problem, GG!
Let's face it, someone has to, because some of the berks on here need some entertainment, such are their sad, inconsequential, boring, mundane little lives. In fact, I ought to charge, really.
To my 'Fan Club': far from being angry, annoyed or upset by your attempts to belittle or insult me, I take great amusement from the fact that you pay me so much attention, you are moved to the degree you are compelled, time and time again, to have a pop at me. I bet some of you lie awake at night, getting all wound up, over stuff I've said!
Personally, I seldom remember anything many of you say, as it's that unimportant to me. This forum is just a bit of fun for me, I don't take it that seriously.
Those who've met me, off here, and those who are actually intelligent, will realise that I may be more than just a 'persona', and therefore give me respect, as such, as I do, with people I feel display enough depth of character, and who might actually be more than a few words on tinternet.,
As for 'attention seeking'; I don't deny it, and you lot do me proud! Nice one, cheers! Don't you realise, that by reacting so vehemently, to anything I post, you are merely feeding my already over-inflated ego??
As Alan Partridge would say, 'Back of the net'!
And thanks to those of you who've actually bothered to give this issue some proper thought, and suggested amicable ways of politely dissuading these people from visiting me. I am more than happy to discuss religion, etc, but I just feel I've got little more to say to these particular bods.
And as for those advocating rudeness, abuse or violence toward otherwise well-meaning folk, well, you're big and tough, aren't you? Obviously, thinking things through a bit is a bit much for you. Never mind.
'RudeBoy is a tool'. Indeed. A spanner in the works! 😉
You love me really; you just need to come to terms with it...
BTW; if anyone does want a signed pic, a donation to STW, and I'll make sure you're sorted out.
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What about an exclusive custom chessboard? Limited Edition, so hurry, to avoid disappointment!
You are Leon Trotsky and I claim my five pounds .....
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I'm better looking...
Not according to your mugshot you're not.
You bollox. You're just jealous.
He's not better looking he is just a naughty boy..... Pray to what ever god cares to come knocking on my front door, come on mods, freedom of speech is one thing but Fred's mocking trolling using is nome de plume of the moment is just a waste of pixels and bandwidth i need some kind of filter to block from my desktop. He admits it above he only comes here to rub salt in wounds and poke otherposters in the eye for a reaction.... he probably pulls the wings off flies and melts ant with a magnifying glass for kicks when not near a computer..
Jealous ? ...... well maybe.
But only because I don't look like this :
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That would proper put the wind up you eh ? .....never mind about bleedin Jehovas Witnesses
He admits it above he only comes here to rub salt in wounds and poke otherposters in the eye for a reaction....
Not at all. I started this thread as a genuine attempt to gauge what others thought might be a good course of action, only to have people attempting a character assassination, a bit like what you're trying (and failing miserably) to do. If you act in that manner toward me, then I feel I've got every right to respond.
Can I sign you up for a chessboard, then?
Grizzly; I always thought it might be quite nice to look a bit Leninous:
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$hit I look like Lennon!
To be fair mAx_hEadSet, RudeFredBra likes to praise people almost as much as he enjoys winding them out.
And imo this thread was designed simply to get a reaction - a classic piece of RudeFredism. If people were simply to suggest, be polite but firm, it would give the opportunity to praise them for being caring and thoughtful. But if they were to suggest that he just acts like the obnoxious **** which they have come to expect of him, then that would give him the opportunity to give them some stick.
As he says himself, he is undoubtedly an attention-seeking muppet, but that sort of stuff makes this place less dull than it would otherwise be imho.
Lennon?
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What about McCarthy?
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I always thought it might be quite nice to look a bit Leninous
Not for me thanks.
This is much more the 'revolutionary look' for me :
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What about Uncle Fidel?
Well, with you being a chippie, and doing yer own tax and that, I'duv thought you'd be used to a good fiddle... 😉
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Sorry. does not in any way work written down. 🙁
Ernie I am well aware Fred always maintains a few cheerleaders on here, there are few megalomaniacs that stand alone, the fact is I have been Max Headset since well from about the time the forum started .. Fred has had a multitude of names mostly due to his presence straining the patience of even the most tolerant of posters... I have a high threshold of pain when it comes to idiots and fools posting on forums, fred however maintains a continuous malicious streak in him that means at some point Rude Boy will cease to exist and no longer be the bike of choice for him and it will take on the form of some new marvellous brand of forum poster that some will find washes brighter than daz or bold, but inside to the rest of us remains the same old tired past sell by date spam. I however should know better by adding two threads i am simply serving his purpose by being here so that's the last one for me no matter what Fred might choose to add. In the end I live in a mountain biking heaven and live the dream when I want.. fred lies a dream to himself most nights, i cant wait for him to move to Barcelona .. I would doubt the Catalans are getting excited about the prospect.
Rude Fred at a recent Rally announces he is the FARC of mountain bike forums
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Sorry, did you say something? I was not bothered enough to take any notice.
Fancy a game of Chess?
Anyway, enough of this nonsense. I shall endeavour to be polite but firm, the next time these bods pay me a visit. They don't bother me, nearly as much as I seem to bother some people on here, so I spose I should be grateful.
Hey ho.
Night all!
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I have a high threshold of pain when it comes to idiots and fools posting on forums
Well it would appear not.
Personally I can't imagine [i]ever[/i] being offended by anything anyone ever posts on here - why should I be ? Although I accept that some people for whatever reasons, do. I [i]do[/i] very very occasionally, get very slightly annoyed. Invariably it's because of some callous remark someone has made concerning either animal cruelty, or someone else's personal circumstances. But other than that, nothing that anyone ever posts on here upsets me.
I think you're over emphasising with the 'cheerleader' remark - I don't think he has any. Well not that I can say I've noticed any. What there is, is quite a few users who recognise that he's a bit of a character who adds a bit of colour to the forum. Certainly whilst I'm prepared to defend him when the miserable brigade start whingeing, I'm also perfectly prepared to give him stick, ridicule him, and slag him off if I feel he warrants it.
Personally I can't see any problem.
What there is, is quite a few users who recognise that he's a bit of a character who adds a bit of colour to the forum
Thats quite true however given the frequency of his posts his online persona is clearly important to him. Unlike many on here who post sporadically I would even say it plays a major part in how he constructs his day and social life. To say he is not bothered etc etc sounds of "protesting too much"
Given that, he needs to ensure he doesnt sh*t in his own backyard too much, or the focus of his whole waking hours may be withdrawn, again!