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i know more or less nothing about more or less everything.

it seems that the only Dickens' stories that i'm familiar with are those that have been performed by the muppets.

and then Mark Kermode tells me that apocolypse now is based on a book called 'heart of darkness' - which is set in Africa.

so, help me please,

what films are based on older books?

(bladerunner based on something about electric sheep - that sort of thing)


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:05 am
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I listened to heart of darkness audiobook as it was a free download on audible. Think it was by some fella called joseph conrad or something. It was nowt like the film.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:07 am
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Debbie does Dallas is loosely based on Tess of the d'Urbervilles. FACT.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:10 am
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It was nowt like the film.

I thought the film was pretty true to the book apart from being set in a different historical context.

The main characters and the basic premise of the story are all there no ?


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:14 am
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Are my posts working?

My last one seems to have gone, gone, gone.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:16 am
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Leona Lewis's Halleluyah is'nt the original.......neither is Jeff Buckley's.


 
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Ahh there you are.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:17 am
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Blade Runner... Based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep".


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:21 am
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Apocalypse Now is faithful to Heats of Darkness in the same way as my life mirrors that of Alexander the Great. He conquered countries. I once played conkers. That type of thing

Ie: Its a fairly spurious link


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:22 am
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Leona Lewis's Halleluyah is'nt the original.......neither is Jeff Buckley's.

It was written by Leonard Cohen


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:23 am
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Those 'Lord of the Rings' films - I hear they were books!

The Ten Commandments was based on some ancient fact-based publication I hear.

Schindlers List was originally a book called Schindlers Ark and was much better IMHO.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:23 am
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Ie: Its a fairly spurious link

corrupted by the inherrent wrongness of their situations, man plays god in a colonial context is the basic premise that both follow.

I'd say that there's more than a slight link in fairness


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:24 am
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I once chuckled to myself when I got in what our american cousins call an elevator. It was made by schindler & co.

IGMC


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:28 am
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Fair point. One relies a lot more heavily on the helicopter gunships for its narrative though 😉


 
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Mrs Grips to the forum please...

West Side Story = Romeo and Juliet
Clueless = Emma
10 Things I Hate About You = The Taming of the Shrew
The 13th Warrior and a ton of others = Beowulf

I'm sure I'll think of more soon.


 
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I also enjoy schindlers lifts. glad someone else is as easily amused as me!


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:30 am
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Lost in Space ("Danger Will Robinson")) is based on a play called The Tempest by some chap called Shakespeare


 
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Oh Brother Where Art Thou - Homer's Odyssey, which I'm reading at the moment but seemingly doesnt count "unless you read it in Greek".


 
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Oh yeah how could I forget that one mcboo!


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:36 am
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With Apocalypse Now there's also the whole 'journey upriver/descent into savagery thing' from Heart of Darkness.

Cruel Intentions was based on Les Liaisons Dangereuses by Laclos

There's a billion films loosely based on Shakespeare plays.


 
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Debbie does Dallas is loosely based on Tess of the d'Urbervilles. FACT.

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Maximum Lollage.

With added Qualitage.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:41 am
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With Apocalypse Now there's also the whole 'journey upriver/descent into savagery thing' from Heart of Darkness.

Fair enough. You could actually read Heart of Darkness in less time than it takes to watch Apocalypse Now. A very short book and a very long film

I love them both, but I just think the link is pretty tenuous and stretched for a lot of it.


 
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In the end whatever it is Shakespeare did it first and Schindlers Ark is actually a novel rather than an historical account hence why it was able to win the Booker Prize. And hey what's wrong with the Muppets I think there's no finer version of a Christmas Carol.

Heart of Darkness is an extraordinary piece of work when you consider that Conrad was writing in effectively his third language.


 
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I also enjoy schindlers lifts. glad someone else is as easily amused as me!

I too have been amused in the same way. I even took a picture. 🙂
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are most films not loosely based on books or plays ...that is ones that dont just relly on an A list celebrity and special effects
I believe almost all naratives used have appeared in literature prior to appearing in films ...propably
Harvey - book/play
my fair lady- pygmalion/play
Princess bride - they give that away by reading the book in it though
Frankenstein
Dracula
Weirwolfs
batman
Bored now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Films_based_on_books

heart if darknes si smor einsoired by than base don IMHO.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:53 am
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heart if darknes si smor einsoired by than base don IMHO.

How you getting on with that crackpipe?


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 10:56 am
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"unless you read it in Greek".

Or the original Klingon.


 
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Lost in Space ("Danger Will Robinson")) is based on a play called The Tempest by some chap called Shakespeare

Think its "Forbidden Planet" that's based on the Tempest, very similar robot though

The Magnificent Seven is based on Seven Samurai


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 11:00 am
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I believe almost all naratives used have appeared in literature prior to appearing in films

There are only apparently 7 storylines in existence. Everything is based on one of them.

And anyway this thread is not about obvious film versions of books - clearly Lord of the Rings is based on a book, no surprise there.

It's the subtle ones like O Brother Where Art Thou that are fun to think about.


 
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One flew over the cuckoos nest was based on one flew over the cuckoo's nest

ragtime was based on ragtime

lord of the rings was based on lord of the rings


 
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heart if darknes si smor einsoired by than base don IMHO.

^^

the original Klingon.


 
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I sometimes think there are only 7 NEW TOPIC titles in existence.


 
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The Ten Commandments was based on some ancient fact-based publication I hear

Yeah, that would be the Code of Hammurabi


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 11:25 am
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The life of Brian was based on the Bible

The Social Network was based on Facebook


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 11:42 am
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Star Wars was based on Dune.

Possibly.


 
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My life is based on The Road by Cormac McCarthy....only without the happy ending.


 
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Star Wars is nothing like Dune. Well bits of it are (i.e. there's a sandy planet with caves) in so much as the whole story line is stolen from other stories and rather crudely pieced together a bit like our beloved Harry Potter...

Most of the other stories to films I can think of have been mentioned, but Lion King is Hamlet loosely...
Shakespeare, Mark Twain, Phillip K. Dick and Arthur Conrad Doyle, Jane Austen and Chaucer's Canterbury Tales are often the 'basis' of many stories lines other people use in their books and/or films...


 
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Soylent Green is based on How to Cheat at Cooking by Delia Smith.


 
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Genuine lol at that.. brilliant 🙂


 
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isnt the lion king based on Hamlet or something?

twighlight on romeo & juliet?

edit, didnt read that above.


 
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Leona Lewis's Halleluyah is'nt the original.......neither is Jeff Buckley's.

Can't believe no one has pulled Rorschach up on this yet, but it wasn't an original by Buckley either ...


 
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Star Wars is nothing like Dune. Well bits of it are (i.e. there's a sandy planet with caves) in so much as the whole story line is stolen from other stories and rather crudely pieced together a bit like our beloved Harry Potter..

Or almost wholly lifted from a Kurasawa film 😉


 
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toby....re-read it slowly...out loud.
Emphasize 'neither is Jeff Buckley's'.


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 12:26 pm
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And anyway this thread is not about obvious film versions of books

ORLY?

what films are based on older books?

🙄


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 12:28 pm
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Well imo it's not worth stating the obvious, but go ahead if you want 🙂


 
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STW and not stating the obvious?

The obvious would be 'nearly every film ever made ever started out as a book, or possibly even a play'.


 
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heart if darknes si smor einsoired by than base don IMHO.

How you getting on with that crackpipe?


going well ... I wish we had google chrome at work to speel [ I know } check for me
Dune and star wars are not alike at all.


 
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The obvious would be 'nearly every film ever made ever started out as a book, or possibly even a play'.

Or a computer game.


 
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Apocalypse Now is faithful to Heats of Darkness in the same way as my life mirrors that of Alexander the Great. He conquered countries. I once played conkers. That type of thing

Ie: Its a fairly spurious link

Binski have you actually read HOD? I think they are very similar in terms of the narrative, structure, pace and tension of the story, the descriptive locations are easily transposed from HOD to AN. I think the choppers and machine guns are the only real difference.

True Grit 69/2010 vs book are excellent examples. Despite the Coens trying to stay faithful to the book and saying they didn't watch the 69 film there are some scenes that are so similar it's uncanny. The explanation is that in those scenes that are similar the source material drove the film in the same direction. The worry is that because the Coens said that they didn't watch the 69 film they didn't account for the actors watching the 69 film and accidentally reproducing the performance they had seen. For example Barry Pepper's Ned Pepper is remarkably similar to Robert Duvall's Ned Pepper, especially the voice when he shouts "too thin rooster, too thin."


 
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Or a computer game.

That still has to be a small number.


 
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The Full Monty was based on The Bicycle Thieves

Broke Back Mountain was based on Lord of the Rings


 
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1 A stranger comes into town
2 Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy finds girl again
3 A guy leaves town, does stuff and comes back again
4 Something goes a bit wrong, somebody tries to make it better but it just keeps getting worse
5 A man overcomes a great adversity and comes of age
6 A ****ing big shark eats a lot of people
7 Car Chase Uzi 9mm I'll be back.


 
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1 Vampires and shit.
2 Werewolves and shit
3 Vampires and werewolves and shit
4 Wizards and shit
5 Bird shit
6 Porn
7 Woody Allen
(sorry for the sweary)


 
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'Pleb' is a bit of a misnomer since although they were below the patricians, they were free landowning Romans and were part of the plebiscite. They were in the middle and were above the slaves.


 
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re. Schindler's Lifts:

We had a very excellent chap come to present to us from Schindler, and he was very keen to explicitly point out that the company was called Schindler Upward Mobility.

It was great to see 20% of the audience get the humour, and slowly explain it to the rest. The wave of slapping foreheads and smiles worked around the room. 😆


 
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with apologies to Rich Hall

Cocktail was based on Top Gun and so was the Tom Cruise Scrabble movie


 
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Star Wars is nothing like Dune

Dune and star wars are not alike at all

Must just be me who sees the similarities?
Maybe cos I've got supernatural powers and can kill with a word/a thought?


 
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You're still going to to need a tray


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 4:22 pm
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You're still going to to need a tray

Lifted lock stock from Dune Messiah that!


 
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It was great to see 20% of the audience get the humour, and slowly explain it to the rest

I love stuff like this. It's a fantastic way of finding out who's actually listening to you.


 
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You're still going to to need a tray
Lifted lock stock from Dune Messiah that!

eh?


 
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You're still going to to need a tray
Lifted lock stock from Dune Messiah that!

eh?

Was joking.
Or at least I thought I was.
I clearly wasn't.

Or it went over your head.


 
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...or beneath me.

I don't know any Dune, so I may have missed the reference


 
Posted : 31/05/2011 4:34 pm
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There wasn't one really.

I got your joke, you didn't get mine.
Shall we shake hands and forget about this sorry episode?

P.S.
Yours was funny.


 
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I got your joke, you didn't get mine.
Shall we shake hands and forget about this sorry episode?
Only if I can be the winner.


 
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Here on STW we're all winners!


 
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Here on STW we're all winners!

Is this another of your jokes?


 
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It's spelt "wiener".


 
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😆


 
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Pamela Anderson's Barbed Wire = Casablanca


 
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