Just flicking back through the Hackintosh guides remind me why its not worth bothering with - you finally get OSX up and running and then you change hardware or Apple release an update and you are back to square 1.
If you are considering it, do it as a hobby. If you need a machine for work stick with Linux or Windows on a PC and buy an Apple if you need OSX 🙂
DECISION MADE, after visit to calumet. Now ordered two Eizo Cs240 monitors, custom PC being built overclocked i5, ssd, seperate hds, 16gb ram, 2gb graphics etc etc. will wipe and reinstall windows on old PC and use for office and internet, outlook etc, new pc just run lightroom and PS. Cost about 2.3k
I think better the devil you know. Always admired the Eizo stuff and the new monitor due out 1st nov looks ideal.
YOUR FEEDBACK INVALUABLE, thanks so much.
I strongly recommend using Ubuntu
I don't, and I use it every day. The OP won't get anything like the software he needs on it.
Sounds like he has a good build though. If you buy a custom build you won't get any preinstalled crap and it will fly.
After having read the thread most of the arguments against Windows are about XP. If you switched to Mac when XP was about then you should know things are pretty different nowadays.
Windows 7 for past 4 years, didn't like 8
DECISION MADE, after visit to calumet. Now ordered two Eizo Cs240 monitors,
Don't forget your calibrator, I expect they recommended an x-rite eye1 but a datacolour Spyder works well with colournavigator and I haven't had any problems with mine.
my old eye1 went captut 1 week after the warranty ran out, the filters degrade over time I ended up with a strong magenta cast. X-rite didn't want to know about fixing it "oh they all do that after a while" 👿
I read these threads with interest, it always amazes me the bad experiences people have had with windows. Granted DOS was the pits and held PC's back, Windows 3.1 was a bloody joke. Unix or OS2 should have made it however since NT I've never really had problems with MS stuff certainly not to the extent that everyone on here moans about it.
I honestly cannot understand what these people do to their PC's, I've owned 4 in 20 years all costing considerably less than a MAC. The first lasted 5 years, the 2nd 8 which in fact still works running w2k, the third 5 years and my current which is 2 years old. I don't think I've ever had a virus and maybe did clean installs a couple of times due to me installing a load of tut (my problem).
I agree with the comments on bloatware that comes with windows is off putting which probably doesn't help peoples perceptions.
I don't understand peoples hate of Windows 8 either seems fine just adding extra on top of the current windows platform.
As I don't use MAC's I can't comment on how good they are but they must be good due to the outpouring of love for them. My short experience of testing application on them was a bit meh, not slating them because at the end of the day they are just a tool for a job so just pick the one which works for you. I used it for two days, it crashed twice. This surprised me considering all the fanfare of how bullet proof they are and how windows is crap (can't remember the last time windows blue screened on me must be 5+ years ago). But hey it was probably something that could of corrected and I won't judge OSX on it.
I must say that I love Visual Studio and miss it when I have to jump to other development environments - I know there will be haters but for my roles Visual Studio has always been great.
@mrsmith already own a spyder 4 pro, however my present monitor setup isn't good enough to get it working fully
All sorted for calibration then.
How does it work with PC graphics cards and Eizo's? I know that you don't use HDMI but display port to get the larger amount of colours with a mac but do pc's use that? Just curious if you need a fancy expensive card and what interface it uses? I know that it used to be the case that you couldn't run 2 monitor profiles on a PC unless you used XP but I'm sure that's changed now.(each monitor will need its own)
I have CG241W which is pre hdmi and connect with a display port to DVI-d adapter which is the recommended way to connect.
I'm sure the p.c will fly, especially if it's a dedicated machine specced right and not for 2screen grot watching. 😯
All decent PC graphics cards come with Display Port or Dual Link DVI-D needed to run higher resolutions (above 1920 x 1200) and/or higher refresh rates (100 Hz +).
You're not wrong about HDMI, it was designed with HDTV's in mind and isn't recommended if you are doing anything where graphics/colours matter. It can send a RGB signal rather than composites but it doesn't have the bandwidth of Display Port or Dual Link DVI-D so best avoided.
@archibald I was a dos and windows user fir 20 years, the experience was generally dire. Poorly percorming machines graduaooy grinding to a halt, frequently changibg OS which was so expensive to upgrade, frequent crashes, numerous viruses. In thise days you had to use PC as Microsoft had a strNgle hold on soctware. Now no more and since going Mac in 2006 I'll never go back
wouldn't expect every car driver to be able to strip down a carburetor but I would expect them to know how to put petrol and oil in it (and find out if they didn't) rather than going "Fords are shit" the first time it runs dry.
I have a rule not to bite when it comes to analogies, since they inevitably go way off topic. However, I'll make an exception because I think you're onto something here. The fact you would expect all car drivers to know how to put oil in is quite telling. I reckon there's a huge proportion of car drivers out there who (a) don't know and/or (b) don't care to know how to put oil in. At best they might see mention of oil on their service invoice. At worst they pay their service bill and are none the wiser. The most "maintenance" such people might ever learn to do is fill the car up with petrol.
Apples aren't perfect. I've sat in front of mine tearing my hair out as I tried to fight the Apple way, but there's no doubt in my mind that using a Mac is a more pleasurable experience than any of the PCs (which I look after) that I've owned and used.
I've noticed 2 or 3 of the "I don't get the love for Apple/hate for PCs" comments have come from people who admit they have not had much exposure to Macs.
In the interests of balance, Apple are crap at some stuff. Photo management and editing across multiple devices is appalling and I hope iCloud Photos sorts it, but I won't go down that road.
At best they might see mention of oil on their service invoice. At worst they pay their service bill and are none the wiser.
A lot of people don't even bother servicing. Someone on this very website thought that you treated oil like fuel, and you kept going til the oil light came on then topped it up!
As analogies go it's probably quite close, but may be proving the opposite of what I was trying to say. (-:
I reckon there's a huge proportion of car drivers out there who (a) don't know and/or (b) don't care to know how to put oil in.
I don't doubt it. Only the other day on STW, someone posted about a relative who cheerfully drove round for ages with warning lights lit on the dash because it 'hadn't stopped yet'.
I get that some people have no interest in [s]computers[/s] cars and just want to [s]browse the web[/s] drive from A to B. But when the engine seizes because it's been driven for miles with no oil in it, don't blame the car, and for the love of gods don't be [i]proud[/i] of it.
Oil's probably a bad example these days anyway, thinking about it. I remember a couple of cars back, trawling round garages for ages looking for the right fluid that matched some esoteric standard or other demanded by the book. Only place I found was, and I shouldn't be surprised really, at a dealer.
Anyway. Wasn't this part of the test at some point? I've half a memory of having to go under the bonnet when I was learning and point out where all the various fluids went. I can't remember now whether I was ever tested on it, but I remember being taught it.
But when the engine seizes because it's been driven for miles with no oil in it, don't blame the car, and for the love of gods don't be proud of it.
OK - so using this analogy on this thread - the experience and perception of Macs is that this scenario simply does not happen, whereas lots of people have had Windows seize up.
I'm conscious that the truth is that Windows is better than it was and perhaps Macs are worse than they once were, but perception is more often than not based on experience.
perception is more often than not based on experience.
Probably. But when that experience is this,
I was a dos and windows user fir 20 years, the experience was generally dire.
...
since going Mac in 2006 I'll never go back
it's both perfectly understandable, and misinformed. And thus, unhelpful.
In 2006, Microsoft's flagship desktop OS was XP SP2 (SP3 was still two years away). And XP SP2 was, being generous, shit. So we're judging an entire platform based on our experiences of a twelve year old OS and its predecessors.
It's about as relevant as me going "well, Macs are rubbish" based on my experiences with System 7.
Macs could be compared to VWs. They used to be really reliable and much better than the competition but the gap is much closer now as others have improved and VW have themselves had some issues.
As Cougar says, the Windows world is massively different and far better nowadays. It's comparable to OS9 -> OSX which was when Macs started to become really competitive I reckon.
OK - so using this analogy on this thread - the experience and perception of Macs is that this scenario simply does not happen, whereas lots of people have had Windows seize up.
The analogy I'd use is along the lines of the travel doctor before I went to SE asia, if you don't want to catch something don't go sticking it in places you shouldn't. Unfortunately people do...
and Cougars point is about right, most of those who said never again to windows seem to have not looked back, I took a look at running OSx on a VM to see what all the fuss was about, it's not that straight forward as if they want to protect their shiney stuff too much.
Considering how much of a change and stable platform W7 has been some people have missed out why so many don't see any point it spending a huge amount on a Mac for no real benefit.
As a bit of balance...
I'm a mac person, though as I said I use win7 and linux all day every day too, and win 8.1 has me considering going back to PC.
Mostly as the things I find myself using my home machine for these days are all "fine" on there too - photo management (lightroom), web, etc. Especially as I use my mac less and less as I use an ipad heavily at home. I'd miss out on some things like the tight iCloud integration of syncing photos/reminders etc - photos especially is nice. But then on the PC side, I'm really intrigued by the Surface concept. Though it annoys me there's nowhere that seems to rent them, I'd have to buy to try.
I find modern windows to be /nearly/ as maintenance free as macs, still more updates and reboots to deal with and they don't suspend (S3) nearly as well, but maybe close enough for me.
Though having said that, unlikely I'll change as it's a big financial investment buying a new machine*
*yes yes you can get laptops cheap etc these days, but whatever OS I use I don't use crap machines. Not a lot worthwhile under 1k and nothing I'd want is less than about 1.5k. And selling my current MBP is a hassle and it's still plenty quick (sandy bridge i7. SSD etc).
Interesing question - since Surface come directly from MS, do they come without manufacturer's crapware? This would be a significant move if so. Crapware is a huge issue - just see this thread. It should be optional on first startup - 'do you want to install a load of badly written shite on your new PC yes/no?'
Oh, PC brigade - what do you use for automated backups?
I use a combo of timemachine and backblaze on my mac, and at work it's Not My Problem. But what's good for home PC use? I believe backblaze has a PC client so that's ok, but what about automatic versioned local backup? I'm not against paying for software.
No crapware on a Surface. Also no crapware on any other PC bought from a Microsoft Store - but you only get those in the states just now.
Both Windows 7 and 8.1 are great especially running on something half decent from the likes of Lenovo. My work colleagues Mac fell over so often on a recent business trip that we ended up having to use my Lenovo running Win 7.
Personally I think if you bought a Mac around the late Win XP / early Vista era, then you have point about Macs being better, but now, I don't think so. Go have a play with Win 8.1, it's good and boots stupidly fast. So fast in fact, we haven't rushed out to buy a tablet for the house.
boots stupidly fast
I hate it when people say this. Who's booting a computer these days, like an animal.
I've been sleeping (roughly S3 suspend in tech pc terms) and waking my machines for instant-on since 2003... (macs)
My work machines when I sleep them and come back a day or two later seem to either a) have decided to hibernate and thus take time to boot, or b) have just run the battery down.
Not tried win8.1 though, are machines better at suspending now? I know there's new tech there to improve it, hence why 1st gen surfaces were 32bit cos the 64bit support wasn't there yet.
I'd miss out on some things like the tight iCloud integration of syncing photos/reminders etc - photos especially is nice.
Doesn't OneDrive do all this?
Failing that for files at least use GoogleDrive or Dropbox?
Oh, PC brigade - what do you use for automated backups?
Windows backup is great - something I really miss on Linux* - but it won't back up to network drives unless you have the Ultimate/Business editions on W7 - don't know about W8. This really pisses me off.
However you can get round it by creating a virtual hard drive on a network drive and mounting that directly - the OS will see it as a local drive and you can schedule backups to it 🙂
* Linux has backup tools but it is apparently not possible to do a full system image whilst the system is running like Windows does.
I use Windows 7 day in day out. I use a Mac day in day out. I've had them both about 3 years and I don't (intentionally) poke them anywhere they shouldn't be and I keep them updated. My experience and enjoyment of using my Mac is as good as it was when it was new. I can't say the same about the Win 7 machine.
Let's also remember that the hardware that Apple produce makes a huge difference to the user experience. My Windows 7 multi-touch trackpad doesn't even come close in terms of function and usability to the Mac one.
I have no shares in Apple by the way 🙂
Oh, PC brigade - what do you use for automated backups?
In Win 7 - the automated backup tool that schedules and does it to USB or NAS for Images of the OS.
Dropbox, Google Drive, Box, Owncloud for everything else (about 1 hr from building/rebuilding a machine to having all my stuff back on there with a few clicks.
I'd miss out on some things like the tight iCloud integration of syncing photos/reminders etc - photos especially is nice.
Google does a great job of that.
I'd miss out on some things like the tight iCloud integration of syncing photos/reminders etc
Yep. Integrates nicely with my W8 phone too 🙂
My work machines when I sleep them and come back a day or two later seem to either a) have decided to hibernate
That's configurable, you know.
My Windows 7 multi-touch trackpad
You don't have a Windows trackpad, you have a Synaptics one or whatever.
Maybe I'm odd and old fashioned but I always turn my computers off. I never seen that advantage of leaving them on / hibernate.
some people have missed out why so many don't see any point it spending a huge amount on a Mac for no real benefit.
As a seasoned mac user I do wonder why some people buy them when a £300 cheapo laptop will do what they want (browsing/email/spreadsheets) admittedly it will be a hideous plastic thing with zero resale value but it boils down to them wanting a MacBook Air rather than needing one. Nothing wrong in wanting nice things though 😀
When you get higher up the range and you are using it for work then the 'spending a huge amount' is irrelevant as PC based systems are just as expensive and often don't have the crucial thing you are buying a mac for like the powered FireWire800 port that you need for tethering a digital back or thundbolt for raid systems etc. any small cost savings are immediately wiped out by the frustrating downtime you will get with a windows based system*
*IME, numerous 'tech support' phone calls from PC owning parents that suddenly stopped when I gave them my old macbook. In 20 years of mac use/photography I have had 2 downtime issues that took me a morning of googling and fiddling to rectify, both caused by OS updates that needed a workaround to temporarily fix that was usually sorted by an update a few weeks later.
*IME, numerous 'tech support' phone calls from PC owning parents that suddenly stopped when I gave them my old macbook.
In our family that stopped with W7.
You don't have a Windows trackpad, you have a Synaptics one or whatever.
Who cares? This is such a huge point. I've bought an Apple desktop machine; Apple make the OS, a lot of the software I use and of course the hardware. The "one stop shop" is a hugely appealing to so many users. Who wants to hear "that's not a Windows problem it's a Synaptics one". I want things to work and if they don't work I want to know who to go to to get it sorted.
I never seen that advantage of leaving them on / hibernate.
Quicker start up times
Can use as a media library hooked up to Apple TV and hence TV/stereo
(Allegedly) more power efficient
The various comments on google/onedrive/dropbox/whatever photo syncing - yes that kinda works, I've used them before, but it's not as tight.
At the moment if I take a photo on my phone (say) or on my camera (then import to aperture) - it just appears in my photos on my ipad, my iphone, and in aperture, wirelessly without my intervention. The full res original files too (*knowing look in the direction of windowsphone*)
I can get close with other solutions, but nothing is quite as transparent, it's the advantage to buying into the apple stack.
Maybe I'm odd and old fashioned but I always turn my computers off. I never seen that advantage of leaving them on / hibernate.
I don't leave them on or hibernate, I suspend them which is a bit different. It means I can use them like an appliance. Open the lid, start using, close lid when I'm done.
Yes I could wait another 30s/minute whatever, but why should I?
A big plus no-one's mentioned yet is Apple after-sales support is *vastly* better than anyone else. I can book an appointment, take a machine in and get it sorted there and then. I've had to use it a few times, and various PC support through work and there's no contest. Ok sometimes when a work machine dies I can get a new one next day, but sometimes I just want it sorted right now.
Who cares? This is such a huge point.
It is indeed, but I'm not saying anyone should care I'm just correcting you. Microsoft only make the OS, and as you correctly point out this is the biggest difference between the platforms. It ensures greater consistence on Apple, but at a higher cost. Pay your money and take your choice, that's fine*.
However don't go on about Windows being like it was in 2005 - that's just not correct any more!
I want things to work and if they don't work I want to know who to go to to get it sorted.
The Apple service centres are another big plus for Apple.
* I have no problem with choice in operating systems and hardware platforms, I just wish Apple fanbois weren't such knobbers about it!
often don't have the crucial thing you are buying a mac for like the powered FireWire800 port that you need for tethering a digital back or thundbolt for raid systems etc. any small cost savings are immediately wiped out by the frustrating downtime you will get with a windows based system*
Do people still plug storage in? For me it's all networked really, I guess if your hard drive is glued in and you can't upgrade it you might need one.
As for down time I think in the last 3 years I've probably had 1/2 to 1 day of PC related downtime as I decided to rebuild both machines having installed heaps of software on them for various projects that were all over. Less then half a day and each was back up and running with no issues. I use my machines every day for work and they earn me my money I've no issue in relying on them.
At the moment if I take a photo on my phone (say) or on my camera (then import to aperture) - it just appears in my photos on my ipad, my iphone, and in aperture, wirelessly without my intervention. The full res original files too (*knowing look in the direction of windowsphone*)
I take a photo with my phone, I do nothing else.
It's on all my PC's
My Google Drive account
Any other device with my google drive login
I can turn on and off specific folders etc for finer control.
The acid test is how many Mac converts ever think it was a bad idea and go back to Windows. Anyone here done this out of choice? Most PC fanboys I know have never even used a Mac and so are not in any position to compare them. I reckon most (not all obviously) people who regularly use both systems prefer both the Mac OS and hardware. I certainly do.
However don't go on about Windows being like it was in 2005
I didn't. I actually pointed out that - daily - I use a Mac and a Win 7 machine of similar vintage.
The big problem with the Apple v Windows debate is that - pun intended - it doesn't compare apples with apples. Until Windows start offering the 360 degree package - hardware, after-sales service, peripherals etc - they will struggle to appeal to a huge group of users who have different expectations from IT than many of us on this thread. For that reason I should probably quit now 🙂
I didn't.
That was addressed to the world in general, not you. Sorry.
Until Windows start offering the 360 degree package - hardware, after-sales service, peripherals etc
See Surface - interesting...
The full res original files too (*knowing look in the direction of windowsphone*)
I think it's an option - I can choose to upload 'best quality'.
The acid test is how many Mac converts ever think it was a bad idea and go back to Windows.
Don't think so, because that excludes all the people for whom Apple is either completely unattractive or does not do what they want. The latter is a pretty big group and software/hardware availability is a huge platform differentiator, possibly the biggest.
I think it's an option - I can choose to upload 'best quality'.
Ah ok, this still didn't do the originals when I last tested it - but that was a while ago now, I had a 920 to test for a month or so when it was released.
Interesting that I can maybe do it via google drive. Would still not be quite the same though, they wouldn't appear in my photo management app (would be lightroom on windows) automatically or in the photos on my phone. I could go to google drive on my phone, but I'd need a net connection at the time I wanted to browse them. So still as I said, nearly there, but not as tight.
The acid test is how many Mac converts ever think it was a bad idea and go back to Windows. Anyone here done this out of choice? Most PC fanboys I know have never even used a Mac and so are not in any position to compare them. I reckon most (not all obviously) people who regularly use both systems prefer both the Mac OS and hardware. I certainly do.
This is why I find my situation interesting, but the friction to switching back is huge - maybe higher than it was to switch to mac in the first place.
I prefer mac hardware /in general/ but I'm privileged to use equivalently high quality PC hardware - you pay the money, the HW quality is there too. I could hammer nails with my work laptop. Not as pretty as a mac, but way more powerful than any mac I could buy, and as it's a work machine that matters more.
Would still not be quite the same though, they wouldn't appear in my photo management app (would be lightroom on windows) automatically or in the photos on my phone. I could go to google drive on my phone, but I'd need a net connection at the time I wanted to browse them. So still as I said, nearly there, but not as tight.
Point your photo management tool to scan the Google Drive folder on start up/open etc. and you can let Google Drive download your photo's to your phone so they are available offline, personally I don't bother as the times at which I want a random photo on my phone while offline hasn't actually come up yet, in fact my phone stays rather empty these days with just apps and recent images on it, everything else is gettable. Sometimes it's as if people don't want to believe that what they have isn't unique.
Don't think so, because that excludes all the people for whom Apple is either completely unattractive or does not do what they want. The latter is a pretty big group and software/hardware availability is a huge platform differentiator, possibly the biggest.
I think you need to read what I said again. I was talking about people who HAVE switched to Mac. How many go back to PC because they preferred it? There are lots of reasons why you might not switch in the first place e.g. cost, specific software compatibility, irrational dislike of Apple, reluctance to change, happy with status quo etc, etc.
Interesting that I can maybe do it via google drive. Would still not be quite the same though, they wouldn't appear in my photo management app
As Mike says - you can get Google drive to synchronise with a real folder on your PC. LR may not pick this stuff up directly though, but it should only be a click away.
This is actually a good idea - I may do this to get my phone photos integrated with my PS Elements Organiser.
I was talking about people who HAVE switched to Mac. How many go back to PC because they preferred it?
Yes but you said it was 'the acid test' i.e. the definitive test for which is better. Just saying that's not the case, even though it's a worthwhile question.
Point your photo management tool to scan the Google Drive folder on start up/open etc. and you can let Google Drive download your photo's to your phone so they are available offline
But on the Mac you don't have to do anything at all. That's what I like about it.
But on the Mac you don't have to do anything at all. That's what I like about it.
Downside is you have to do it Apple's way and you have no choice in the matter. This is what I don't like about Apple, and it's also what some people do like about it.
But on the Mac you don't have to do anything at all. That's what I like about it.
tell me again why thats a good thing?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/nude-celebrity-photos-leaked
The acid test is how many Mac converts ever think it was a bad idea and go back to Windows. Anyone here done this out of choice? Most PC fanboys I know have never even used a Mac and so are not in any position to compare them. I reckon most (not all obviously) people who regularly use both systems prefer both the Mac OS and hardware. I certainly do.
I spend far more time on my Windows machines than I do on my Macs (yes, plural for both, its like n+1 for bikes)
Main reasons are:
1. Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 is much better than any virtualisation software available on OSX
2. Windows does gaming so much better than OSX. Nvidia's drivers for OSX are pants, OSX is a PITA to configure games controllers properly with (flight sim, driving sim, and even an xbox controller), any games that do get ported to OSX rarely run as well as their Windows counterparts.
3. I work with Visual Studio, SQL Server and Powershell, if OSX is on my main machine I need a solid hyper visor - see point 1.
I don't really care for the prettiness, IMHO opinion there isn't much in it. OSX certainly hides things away from an end user a little better, but thats not something that matters to me 😀
People suggesting setting up auto-importing etc. I have done that before - I could link you to my previous blog posts detailing the setup process* and how to make it work. So you're speculating about what might be a solution to my problems, but I have tried what you're suggesting and whilst it does work, it's not as slick. It'd probably be what I do though, as the other option appears to be switch wholesale to manage my photos in a different way - not necessarily unreasonable. After all, I accept I'd need to switch away from using Aperture to use Lightroom.
The nude photo leaks, the same attacks could work on photos synced by any method, it wasn't an Apple specific attack.
This is actually a good idea - I may do this to get my phone photos integrated with my PS Elements Organiser.
I'd be interested to know how you get on with this if you do give it a go.
*the fact that I found myself wanting to document the process is probably a clue it's not as slick...
*clambers over piles of fallen soldiers*
Do we have a winner yet?
http://photoshopelementstips.blogspot.com.au/
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-watch-folders-in-the-photoshop-elements.html
Watched folders not cover it in Elements organiser?
The nude photo leaks, the same attacks could work on photos synced by any method, it wasn't an Apple specific attack.
No but automatically uploading everything by default probably did lead to a lot of people uploading a lot more than they both wanted to and possibly thought they had done. It's one of the problems when you start removing options and decisions and telling people thats how it works. A few mates have commented that they have had a suprises at home after being texted a pic from someone...
tell me again why thats a good thing?
Allows me to get on with life (or writing pointless crap on forums).
*clambers over piles of fallen soldiers*Do we have a winner yet?
I'm not even sure which side I'm on!
Watched folders not cover it in Elements organiser?
Not tried that, will have a go.
The nude photo leaks, the same attacks could work on photos synced by any method, it wasn't an Apple specific attack.
How did these work? Files were public, or just too-simple passwords?
With Google it's all private by default I think.
How did these work? Files were public, or just too-simple passwords?
Mostly people learning enough about the target to social engineer the password reset process and answer the "secret" questions.
With Google it's all [s]private [/s] google can look at it with machines to sell you things by default I think
😉
Private by default on Apple too.
Private by default on Apple too.
The default upload may be more of the issue, if it's online then expect it to be hackable.
Tricky one for companies though. The flip side of the "online by default" is when a customer is in tears cos they broke their phone and it's the only place photos of their child are stored you can give them a new one and they're all restored by magic (because normal people don't backup).
So by some measure, it probably helps more people than it hurts, it's a trade off someone somewhere has to make. It'll always be wrong for some people though.
With Google it's all private google can look at it with machines to [s]sell you things[/s] advertise things to you that you might actually want instead of random crap by default I think
Do people still plug storage in? For me it's all networked really, I guess if your hard drive is glued in and you can't upgrade it you might need one.
Why wouldn't they? Not everyone's storage needs are the same.
I use 2 thunderbolt (2-4 HD's in each) drives one raided for fast in/out of video (native not proxies) and another as a mirrored back-up that backs up every 15min whatever I tell chronosync the current shoot is. I need to move 10-100gb around at a time and often so don't want to wait for that or have the machine slow down while it's doing it.
And as for upgrading, no current drive is big enough for my needs so being able to change the drive (or not) is a moot point.
Main machine is only 500gb but I only ever keep the current shoots on it that I'm working on then they get removed, most people just keep filling their machine up to the brim then wonder why it slows down.
most people just keep filling their machine up to the brim then wonder why it slows down.
Why would that be? Are 1's heavier than 0's, then?
Why would that be?
Hard to say if this is a serious question, or if you're testing MrSmith....
I do know the answer though, how many points do I get? ;-P
Well,
If by 'full to the brim' we're talking about applications with services and components which run all the time taking up RAM then yes, that can have a performance impact.
But so long as there's sufficient space free for the OS to have a bit of elbow room to do its thing, a computer full of [i]data[/i] is just as fast as one that isn't (for practical purposes anyway, so long as we're not splitting hairs over things like seek time), the idea that you can somehow delete your music collection to speed up your machine is a myth.
If space on your system drive is critically low or non-existent however, that can give you a really bad day.
IA > are you thinking of something I've missed?
Well, the definition of "sufficient space" here is key.
On a spinning platter (where are we? A time machine to 10 years ago? 😉 ) the seek time and transfer rate suffers, not just because of where you are on the disk but also inevitable fragmentation. There are benchmarks somewhere (i forget, it was years ago) that I was looking at when I last bought a spinning disk laptop, showing that basically for a given data volume a larger 5400rpm disk was faster than a 7200rpm disk. Though of course there are platter density issues at play there too....
On an SSD it depends on the controller, but writes often get a lot slower and trimming time can increase. In particular you can suffer annoying jitter in access time which can be infuriating*.
I'll concede it probably doesn't make a noticeable difference to the sort of person likely to let their drive over fill though.
*I know modern controllers in theory solve these problems with various tricks, but in practice they don't. Makes a noticeable difference to my work, which is I'll admit niche (robotics/AI R&D), but still.
IA > are you thinking of something I've missed?
Scratch disk space if you don't have a separate one.