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what seems 'insane' to you might not be to the biker. It's about perceptions.
That's my point exactly. It's about perception. You might be safe zooming around, but you sure as shit don't look it to the rest of us. And more than that, it's about acting in an intimidating way.
I used to get around busy Cardiff city centre when I was 19 by running. I used to enjoy weaving through crowds fast. I stopped doing it though not because it was dangerous, but because I realised other people didn't like it. It was intimidating to have a grown man running by close to you.
It's the same for motorbikes. It's not nice having them bomb past inches from your wing. It stresses me out because it's a large fast moving object very close to my car. It puts me under pressure because I know I can't so much as avoid a pothole without knocking him off.
It's the same reason I slow right down on downhills on the mtb when passing walkers. Even if I am having a great time on a great dh I will slow to a crawk. Not because it's risky, but because other people don't like it and I don't want to be a dick.
"Jumping to assumptions again, like you always do. "
This thread is not about you, so if you don't intimidate others that's great but I wasn't talking about you.
I stand corrected about anti motorcycling sentiment then. I was simply going on the fact I have never in my life herd anyone complaining about motorcyclists as a group, just scary ones. Just like people do with car drivers.
Ah bloody hell, the 'argue black is white' brigade are in 🙁
Someone a page back mentioned Godwin's law:
Cycle camping in Germany we were pitched on a peaceful campsite when a pack of "scary ones" turned up. Noisy, aggressive, lent one of the bikes against someone's caravan, rode off for half an hour and returned with enough beer for half a dozen rugby teams. We decided to leave so I went to the campsite owner who refused to give us our money back until I pointed out that one of them was riding around in a WWII helmet and there were a few too many Nazi symbols - so I'd be back with the police to do something about the Nazi occupation.
All sorts of people ride bikes and the only thing they have in common is that they all ride bikes.
And they're all scum - you forgot that bit.
I remember one time, my motorbike gang pulled into town, chaos ensued... I heard one little old lady say "These bloody motorbikers have eaten all the cakes!" Take that, Aberfeldy!
[quote=Edukator ]Cycle camping in Germany we were pitched on a peaceful campsite when a pack of "scary ones" turned up. Noisy, aggressive, lent one of the bikes against someone's caravan, rode off for half an hour and returned with enough beer for half a dozen rugby teamsI had a similar experience in Uig on Skye. They were shouting at each other until almost midnight (in that way drunk folk do) when I eventually got fed up and bawled at them to shut up.
Within 30 seconds they had all gone to bed 🙂
Get the original point about - all faces should be uncovered - but even so, manners, just take the helmet off. You are not the bloody STIG (does anyone watch TG on here? )
Lol 🙂
Well my commuter is in the classifieds and its a perfect first bike - I don't think you'll scare many old ladies with it but you might just discover a whole new world. Just don't forget to take your lid off chaps 😀
Budgens in Packington Street opened in February last year but has suffered thousands of pounds worth of losses through the theft of cigarettes and alcohol and the damage caused through the smash-and-grab raids.CCTV footage from the raids, which began in August, show what appears to be the same group of at least six, wearing motorcycle helmets and dressed in black, emptying shelves of goods into bags and even down their trousers...
On BBC local news today
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I watched a documentary about people who ride motorbikes - it doesn't quite show the safe, cuddly image some of you are trying to portray.
I think, I [i]hope[/i] you forgot the 😉
But getting back to something like the original point, as someone else said, it's really more about civility and being polite, it's disconcerting when others can't see a person's eyes when talking to them; I wear pretty dark tinted lenses usually, and sunglasses with my contacts, all of which have either very dark or mirrored/iridium-style lenses, and if I get talking to someone for more than a minute or two I take them off, just because its [i]the polite thing to do![/i]
It's not unusual to have small children burst into tears when confronted by a grown-up they don't know with their eyes covered up, it scares them.
Being polite costs bugger-all in the greater scheme of things.
On BBC local news today
Coming next, "no black clothing."
I wear pretty dark tinted lenses usually, and sunglasses with my contacts, all of which have either very dark or mirrored/iridium-style lenses, and if I get talking to someone for more than a minute or two I take them off, just because its the polite thing to do!
I've always taken sunglasses off [i]before[/i] interacting with people for just that reason.