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I need to fix a run of four kitchen cabinets to the wall, HOWEVER these need to spaced from the wall by about 10cm. The floor units below are 90cm deep so I need to bring the wall units out so we can reach.

My plan is to fix a 10cm thick bit of wood (fence post) to the wall and then fix the units to this wood. This bit of wood abvioulsy needs to be well fixed to the wall so what fixings should I use?

Wall is an old external wall and part brick and part breeze block. Could I use some really big frame fixers (window and door type) or would some type of big old bolt be suitable?


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 1:34 pm
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wall plugs should be fine, its what I'd use to hold a cabinet to a wall so no reason not to use them for bits of wood as well


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 1:36 pm
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I'd probably build a "frame" from CLS studwork timber. Its just easier to work with, being a uniform thickness etc. Is also going to be lighter.
I think the wider one is about 100mm. I'm sure a builders merchants should have some generic right-angle brackets for hanging that off the wall with std heavy duty plugs & screws. The cabinets should then attach straight to that.


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 1:42 pm
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As above, you need to build a frame to hang off. You will really struggle to get a post to hang solid and not twist.

Personally, i'd make a frame to fit onto the back of the new cabinets from 18mm ply, reinforced with 3x2 timber.


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 1:50 pm
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Time to come clean, the units have been on the wall until sunday night when they fell off! I'd built a frame of 5cm by 6cm wood, the frame consisted of 4 verticals and 2 horizontals. the verticals were fixed directly to the wall and the horizontals screwed directly to the verticals. the brackets for the units were then fixed to the top horizontal. However I only used 4 (9cm long) screws to hold the horizontal to the vertical. 3 of the 4 screws on the upper horizontal snapped meaning the units came down (with a crash - but not too much damage).

So it sounds like I remake this frame with thicker wood which would allow me to use more screws to hold it together and then fix the frame to the wall using big old metal brackets?


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 2:04 pm
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i'd attach the cabs at more than one level - maybe add some screws at the height of the second horizontal - and also make it out of 4x2 rather than 3x2 timbers, and use a load more screws. But I'm not qualified or owt


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 4:54 pm
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And a good dose of pink grip or no nails etc between frame and wall will help that bit more!


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 7:11 pm
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Just build out a boxed/framed section the same size as the cabinets and attach the wall cabinets to that.
For your wall end panel you maybe able to use a base end panel
and scribe to fit.
Which will hide your boxed frame.


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 7:17 pm
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Make your frame up first and use metal L-shape fixings
fix to the wall with No10 10cm screws
Now cover with 18mm MDF and screw your wall brackets to that
and attach your wall cabinets.
Now depending on your kitchen! You maybe able to use an
base end panel to cover your wall cabinet and boxing
and scribe to fit.


 
Posted : 23/11/2010 7:26 pm