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Can't be far off one bar and with Saudi posturing I've opted to fill.
Looked back on my previous sales orders .
Feb 2021 I bought 1200l for 40p/l
Feb 2022 I bought 1200l for 64p/l
It's now June 2023. I've bought 1200l at 58pence with little chance of getting it all in. -1400l tank.
Good to see the insulation and the smart thermostat system is making at odds.
We have a village syndicate that places a bulk order 3 times a year, I usually partake once a year on the mid-june order. But with the Ukraine situation I decided not to wait and ordered 1000l myself today, £619 inc vat.
Last 12 months only used about 960l, (4 bed detached), WFH but keeping thermostats at 18. Plus about 3-4 m3 of logs.
Just ordered 1000l today, the two places that deliver to us are 74.55ppl and 79.08ppl, inc. VAT.
Chap said that prices were at a low in June but since then have risen (which is unusual for this time of year).
What are folks thoughts about the oil boiler phase out? There’s no way we could get our house insulated enough to make a ground source heat pump work be looking at 30-40 k for insulation and system. Going to be nursing our green star like a baby panda!
Mines was new in 2021, when the old one broke down
So renew now, and renew sometime in 2030/40. Wait and buy a vegetable oil boiler (see article)
As to heat pumps. In my house its unlikely to work due to age without need for significalt reinsulation etc.
I will just keep burning things. In fact i'll be going out this weekend to cut up some fallen/aged trees to add to my wood pile stock.
A heat pump doesn’t need the house to be insulated, it does need radiators upgrading usually and may be pipework but the only work in a super insulated house is not true.
Your heat load doesn’t alter just because you are using a heat pump.
No, but to work efficiently without consuming a huge amount of electricity, good insulation is required. If you have anything less than 12mm pipework, you need a replumb. We were quoted £8k for the replumb, £4k for the required tank and £9k for the heatpump. None of that includes insulation, new rads or UF heating. Even after the government grant we'd be looking at £25k and then the cost to relay all the flooring and redecorate.
Chap said that prices were at a low in June but since then have risen (which is unusual for this time of year).
Rare that I've called It but with all the OPEC postulating it was in the post really.
What will the domestic gas boiler ban in 2025 mean for me?
Under the government’s current plans, there's a gas and oil boiler ban in newbuild homes only from 2025.Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government tells us there are about 25 million homes in the UK – and we build about 160,000 new ones each year according to the National House-Building Council. As such, it’s likely to be many years before a new build gas boiler ban alone has a big impact on greenhouse gases. And some environmental groups argue that the government needs to go further, much sooner.
Will the gas boiler ban apply to my home?
If you’re worried about having to ditch your existing oil or gas boiler – don’t be. The gas and oil banner ban in 2025 only applies to newbuild properties. There are no plans to phase out gas boilers in existing homes.That said, the government may encourage more of us to ditch gas in favour of alternatives. Using grants or incentives for insulating our homes or installing low-carbon heating.
I am hoping this is correct on EDF's website. It does make logical sense to apply to new build homes as they can be built with proper insulation and provision
No, but to work efficiently without consuming a huge amount of electricity, good insulation is required.
This applies to ANY heating/cooling system...
There are far far too many folk in places where ashp is not viable for them to stop.
Wonder what size of Genny you'd need when the Lecky went down our on't moors to feed your ashp.
Oh, I feel quite smug now having bought a year's supply in early June. I just order from local supplier, only 3/4 mile down the road.
IntheBorders has it correct, if you haven't got good insulation then you will consume a lot of whichever fuel you are using.
The problem with heat pumps in poorly insulated houses is the amount / size of radiators that are required, and this is where the whole myth starts as I suspect not enough design is done or corners are cut as the install becomes expensive due to the work required to get the system to work on low flow temps.
if your load is 20kW that doesn't change, what changes is the how to deliver that with low flow temps, without getting that bit right an ASHP will be expensive. If you get that right and understand how to use it then it will be similar in running costs to natural gas.
corners are cut as the install becomes expensive due to the work required to get the system to work on low flow temps.
Just highlighting the key issue there.
That time of the year again
Tanks approaching empty - watchman's flashing.
1400l or so since June with an under 1 and a full time occupied house this winter.
66pence/l at my local supplier Vs 77pence cheapest on boiler juice.
We got 1150l the other week. I think it was 74p/l from Carnegie's.
It'll last us just about a year.
63ppl down here in the Cotswolds at the moment. Seems about right given the oil barrel price.
We paid 0.69p in December, Scottish Borders - half way through the tank at the mo.
63.5p on 4th Dec then 66p at end Jan.
North Yorks.
Need another 500l in about a month.
66pence/l at my local supplier Vs 77pence cheapest on boiler juice.
I bet that 11p is close to their margin. Lots of these portals have a pretty big margin somewhere along the line.
We paid 0.69p in December, Scottish Borders – half way through the tank at the mo.
At just over half pence a litre that’s incredibly cheap 😉
I was quoted 66p a litre yesterday which is nearly a hundred times more 😢
#smartar5e 🙂
😁 Apologies.
So thinking now would be a good time to get the tank filled, even though in reality it’s not fully empty
Prices are currently as low as they have been but can’t see that staying there long with what’s going on in the world
Agreed but I still have 7bars in a 1400l tank so somewhat pointless.
Social media trying to stir up a fuel shortage at the moment also it seems.
Hopefully by the end of the day my solar thermal will be commissioned just in time for winter.....but with that comes electric hot water.... That'll mean I should reach this point next year with 10 bars of oil.....all three/four bars of use this year have been hot water.
Luckily just ordered a fill up two days ago.
Market is up 3p and theres a lot of demand currently.
It's still not badly priced but the threatening of bombing irans oil industry is causing a spike
Just ordered ours at 55p ltr.
Its showing 4 bars on a 1400ltr tank so I bet that is only about 700ltrs to fill it
Gauge showing 700 litres, on a 1000 litre tank, so it looks that I will be filling at the worst time.
It won't be enough to see me through until the spring but I can't order a top up until I'm down to 500 litres.
So thinking now would be a good time to get the tank filled
I'd say definitely if you can. I put 1500L in 2 weeks ago [enough to see us through until spring hopefully] but that was only because my calcs said I only had 25L left!! I suspect the price is going to go up a bit over the next couple of weeks and then stay there for a while.
all three/four bars of use this year have been hot water.
My boiler has been using approx 3.5L of oil to heat a 250L megaflo - but obvs that is dependent upon how hot the water was before the burn started.
I ordered a fill last night via BoilerJuice at 55p/l. We're still half full but hopefully we'll avoid the coming pricing blip/end of the world etc. That'll easily last to next summer assuming we don't go into deep freeze for the next 6 months...
Just ordered 500 litres at 56p/litre including VAT.
Not too bad and that will see us through until the warmer weather and cheaper oil prices, Trump/Putin notwithstanding.
Prices have not jumped as much as I thought they might so far this autumn/winter - although haven't petrol/diesel prices actually dropped a bit since August?
End of August the cheapest for us here was 62ppl inc VAT, Scottish Borders.
500 litres - £342. South Fife. Boilerjuice quote was £20 more expensive tail end of last week.
53.5ppl delivered yesterday, in N Yorks.
Anyone know if companies will buy oil back?? Could possibly see if the landlord would pay for it I guess, or someone else local?
Asking as we're moving to a house we've bought from rented at the end of December and will have a load of oil left in the tank at our rented place as we only filled it in the summer and won't have used that much by then.
Need to leave it with 2 bars (same as when we moved in and inventoried) but currently have 9 bars of a 1300l tank, so there's a good few pennies sat ther.
IMO that’s like buying a car, if you leave petrol in it the new buyer gets it for free
Or it's going to be very warm in the longdog household this month 😀
Yeh if it comes to it we'll be toasty warm for a while.
We're renting on a farm funkydunk, I know for sure if we leave it the farmer/landlord will be sucking it out anyway, not leaving it for the next tenant. We just have to make sure there's two bars left in the tank like when we moved in. Bit of a difference between £40 worth of petrol in a car and £400 worth of oil.
Borrow some jerrycans and take it to a pal's house?
As a landlord renting out an oil heated property, we have a charge/refund at local market rate clause in the tenancy agreement for start/finish oil level difference. It helps the regular shape tank is exactly 1mm/litre. In longdogs case discuss well before move out date, and if landlords thinks he's getting 100s litres free, jerry cans are go!
Just paid 49.2ppl here in the Cotswolds.
Cheers Steveb, we'll rise it as soon as we hand our notice in. Unfortunately our neighbour is still on solid fuel otherwise I'd try to do a deal with them. My nearest mate who's on oil is in Shetland, so not a lot of use lol!
Just remember oil stinks spills even small are obvious.
Be sure if you do sell it it's collected responsibly and carefully or you'll be on the hook for clean up.