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Went to the doctor today about my suspected broken rib. And while she's checking my breathing she says did you know you have a heart murmer. So now I have to have an xray ecg and echo scan. Should I start on the bucket list?
To make matters worse the wife won't do the bedroom mamba incase she kills me!
will I die
At some point, yes.
yes, but probably not from that......
Likelihood is if you're young it's probably been there since birth and it's only just been noticed. So if you've survived this many years and various bedroom nookie already, you'll live!
If its symptomless and you're young it's likely what's known as a benign murmur - yep it's there but won't do anything to you. Just needs monitoring every now and then to ensure it isn't progressing any
Can I have your bike?
Wife pics please 😉
she's worried it's contagious or/and waiting for the minimum tie-in period before the insurance cover kicks inTo make matters worse the wife won't do the bedroom mamba incase she kills me!
Finding a murmur just means hearing more turbulent blood flow than expected. If its been found incidentally, that is better.
Could be an "innocent" or "flow" murmur, where all the plumbing looks completely normal on more detailed testing but the blood flow through the heart is more noisy, hence heard as a murmur. But sometimes can be caused by more serious underlying problems eg with heart valves - obviously this has the potential to be more serious which is why they are doing the tests to find out exactly what the cause is, if there is one.
Hope you don't have too long to wait to get more answers.
Mike
I think "lady doctor pics" might get us to the root of this issue quicker 😉Wife pics please
Can we have pics of the wife and the doc with your bike?
It would save a lot of time...
I was born with one of them. Not dead yet.
which: bike, lady doc or OP's wife ?I was born with one of them
Don't worry about it till you get the scan done - seriously...dont!.
I got diagnosed with a heart murmur at 16 when i went for my first full physical for my adult motocross licence back in 1988 despite it not getting picked up on previously as i had a couple of minor operations as a kid and also having a physical examination every year since the age of 9 for my kids motocross licence. After getting shipped off that day to the large hospital 30 odd miles away for further examinations and prodding's it transpired i have a bicuspid aortic heart valve which means instead of my aortic valve having a tricuspid arrangement (think three leaf clover opening from the middle out in a graceful manner) i have what's little more than a valve like a goldfish's mouth out of water gulping for air, all it means is my heart is under slightly more stress when running flat out as it cannot flow as much as a tricuspid arrangement and i have to careful i don't get blood infections from cuts/wounds etc (according to the docs anyway) as that might attack the valve tissue then i'd be pretty fked.
It's not bothered me in the slightest and i've never gave it a seconds thought since diagnosis, i continued to race motocross at top national level for years and i've rode mtbs for over 20yrs, i used to train quite hard and could often get my heart rate to top 225 bpm in my late 20'early 30's (according to my polar chest strap anyway), i regularly used to sit at 175-185bpm for hours and covered stupid distances on the road, i didn't need to work at the time so all i chose to do was cycle as much as i could. I also rode ss exclusively for years and i imagine that's pretty brutal on your heart, back in 2007 (age 35) i could still hit 210 bpm on long ss climbs. Only once ever felt a bit iffy whilst cycling/exercising, dunno if it was due to my heart murmur or not but i doing reps of Heartbreak Hill @ Kirroughtree on the SS back in 2006, cycle up as fast as i could, coast back down whilst recovering, head back up, coast back down, i think i was on my 6th or 7 rep and on the way back down i felt my heart start to flutter and i kinda blacked out and came to a few seconds later as i lay in the scrub nr the top/last corner.....i calmed down a fair bit after that as it wasn't a nice feeling at all.
What age are you?, physical condition?, diet?, smoker?, big drinker? etc as that will prob determine what type of mumur it is - did the doc mention anything else such as a whooshing noise or suchlike?.
Anyway....don't worry, look at this way - you were lucky to break a rib and find out now when you're fit n' healthy so you can deal with it, as it may or may not have presented a problem in the future and by that point it'd be a harder struggle to get over it.
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Can't to remember the technical term, but basically I have a squeaky valve, which makes a funky and ridiculously loud noise. Medically more or less irrelevant, except that it does serve as a useful test to see if a doctor has read your notes.
So, wait and see.
I had a French doctor make a big fuss about me having one when i was a student over there and wanted to play rugby for the Uni team. They made me go get an ECG, echogram, etc. before I was allowed to play.
All turned up fine on the scans.
Cardiac guy confirmed it at the time, but no other doctor has picked it up since (despite a few workplace medicals and even another French "sport" exam) and even when I've mentioned it they've looked a bit baffled and said there was no sign of one.
, dunno if it was due to my heart murmur or not but i doing reps of Heartbreak Hill @ Kirroughtree on the SS back in 2006, cycle up as fast as i could, coast back down whilst recovering, head back up, coast back down, i think i was on my 6th or 7 rep and on the way back down i felt my heart start to flutter and i kinda blacked out and came to a few seconds later as i lay in the scrub
I'd say that'd be a pretty normal response! 😉
im afraid im leaving the bike to the dog if I snuff it. Not sure youd want to get pics of the doctor either as she was built like a shotputter.
Health is good apart from the ribs and murmer problem, I found out last week I got a spot in the london marathon so was going to start training for that. Never smoked and maybe have 2-3 pints a week.
The doctor said it was like a budum shhh.
Thanks for the advice so far, feel a bit more at ease
The doctor said it was like a budum shhh.
Oh, you didn't mention it was a 'budum shhh' type murmer....
Oh dear....
Can i have the dog?
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ok then, if you're sure
I had a French doctor make a big fuss about me having one when i was a student over there and wanted to play rugby for the Uni team. They made me go get an ECG, echogram, etc. before I was allowed to play.
Big thing on the continent - all 'semi professional level sports people' often get scanned regardless of what is heard - it's to screen for causes of sudden cardiac death (HOCM).
OP - does your life insurance cover for sudden cardiac death? If so, [s]you [/s] the wife and dog will be fine.....
DrP
hands up with worst case scenario.. turned out my aerota was flapping in the wind
chopped out and titanium and plastic replacement 13 yrs ago.. no problems other than a stroke and that was no big licks in the scheme of things
can do all the things i used to do before .. should last forever..
Heart murmurs can be caused by an infection or a virus, it's not always the heart itself that is the problem.. as has already been said, try not to worry, get an early diagnosis, get a 2nd opinion as well.. If it does turn out to be your heart that is the problem, then check the link..
http://heartsurgery.cqc.org.uk/survival.aspx
Heart surgery, whilst very invasive and traumatic for the body, is virtually routine surgery nowadays.. Survival rates in the 97-98% range are very impressive and stack up well against other types of surgery..and it will get so much better in the next few years as it becomes routine to use keyhole surgery.
Oh and another thing.. having sex puts about as much strain on the heart as climbing a set of stairs.... soo, tell the mrs to get upstairs to the bedroom.. if you make it to the top.. then consider it a green light to get jiggy with it 😀
Hands up with the worst case scenario here too:
Heart murmur at pre-school medical (aged 5), annual checks, and then a titanium loo-seat replacement fitted at 13. Been clicking away for over 30 years now.
Did a PhD, worked over-seas, cycled around Britain, got married and have kids. Life's good.
Back to the OP: Heart murmors become more common as you get older: as it seems that almost everyone has one. Live life. And good luck! Warfarin is increasingly common these days too - so I'm not the freak I once was.
Good luck - you'll be fine.
[quote=jswan said]I was born with one of them. Not dead yet.
jswan, you still there ?
Got one here too, leaky valve the cause.
Still alive and typing crap on the internet.
I wouldn't worry about it
Virtually all heart sounds are the sounds of valves closing, a murmur usually means a valve isn't working quite as it should....if you're illness and symptom free then no problem....if it was a problem you'd have known about it by now....breathlessness, dizziness, palpitations etc etc.
Loads of people are walking round with undiagnosed heart murmurs.
Big yim - that's exactly what my murmur sounds like on the ultrasound machine...badoom-whoosh.....badoom-whoosh.....badoom-whoosh. The badoom bit is the contraction/beat of the heart (if I understand correctly) and the whoosh bit is the sound of the aortic valve blood flow being forced through a smaller gap than is ideal. If you are fit n' healthy like you say, never smoked, few pints a week and eat a relatively healthy diet the it sounds like you have a similar problem to myself, if so it's now't to worry about at all. And like others have said an infection or virus can cause a murmur, I know if I get the flu or something similar it makes my murmur more noticeable as I can hear it when I plug my ears in a silent room.
Some calming tales up there bout folk who've had replacement valves fitted as well so I'd be clubbing the missus over the head caveman style, beating my bare chest and dragging her upstairs ( with her full permission of course, now't wrong wi a bit of role play 😉 )
The doctor said it was like a budum shhh.
Oh, you didn't mention it was a 'budum shhh' type murmer....I have one if those - have had for 37 years since birth... Don't worry overmuch before the scan, mine has not affected me in the slightest...
How does that quote thing work - not as above obviously...
Oh and your dog looks ace!
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Cheers!