I've always assumed the "dog poo hanging on trees in bags" phenomenon was caused either by people who want to be reminded to collect on the way back from their walk, or by it getting caught in the tree by chance when people had flung it away.
Yesterday I saw someone intentionally hang their dog poo in a non-bio degradable bag just before they got in their car which suggests both those theories are wrong and there's some advantage to dealing with it in that way.
Why do they do it?
Did you manage to say something to the inconsiderate idiot?
Because the dog poo fairy comes to collect it obviously.
Channel your inner chimp and fling it back at them?
I thought the same (first two reasons)
Very occasionally if I am on an 'out and back' walk I may put the bagk on a low wall or similar and pick it up on the return leg. I do pick it up though, every time and I only do this if I know there isn't a bin elsewhere on the walk to use.
Don't try and make sense of the actions of stupid people as their actions are just stupid
did you get their reg
report them?
i think i would of taken it off the tree and stuck it in their exhaust.....
I just don't see why someone would go to the effort of taking bags, of picking it up but then leaving it in a tree?
I heard someone (may well have been on here) assert their reasoning was: "it makes it easier for the park rangers to collect" 🙁
Just mad speculation here but I'd always thought the same.
TBH in some ways better in a tree than flung into my face but I'm guessing some people do this as you say... then someone see's someone else and without engaging their brain thinks this is "what you do".
Very likely their brain gets little use in general.
At least you're not going to ride through it (or as the Army keep complaining arroudn here, crawl, ewwwww).
It's also a great way to disguise your hot sausages.
someone in my local park hangs theirs on the spikes on the entry gate, seen it on the local primary school railings too. Hopefully in a few years assassination drones will automatically DNA test it and visit the owners...
Doggy folk, with the odd exception, are a bit odd.
I have heard the reasoning "it makes it easier for someone else to collect" before too. Why your dog's defecation should be someone else's problem is beyond me. Dirty dimwitted dickheads.
Not just on trees, but left lying in the street, even dropped outside the front door of a row of terraced houses.
It’s a dick move by people who are thoughtless, inconsiderate dicks.
maybe they think it's good for the tree
OP - what sort of poo bag was it then? I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable. Or was it just a sandwich bag or something?
OP – what sort of poo bag was it then? I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable. Or was it just a sandwich bag or something?
Sadly not. I have to specifically buy bio bags otherwise they stay hanging in the tree for ever.
I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable
A) I'd not credit someone with that level of ****wittery to consider buying biodegradable bags
B) It's still hung on a tree, which is the problem. Most places* are happy if you leave dog poo where it is as long as it's not on the path.
*there's reasons why not, like play areas, army training areas, sensitive ecosystems like sand dunes, but if you're dogs just doing what bears do naturally, it's fine.
Last time I experienced someone hanging a poo bag in a tree before getting in their car at Cannock I collected said bag of Fido's finest and lobbed it at their windscreen so hard the bag split and left a humongous skiddy smear all over it as they turned their wipers on.
Having the misfortune of living in an area where people come to walk their dogs, its difficult not to just reach the conclusion that a lot of dog owners are just selfish inconsiderate ****s of the highest order!
From experience the worst offenders are Mr and Mrs matching Berghaus with their chocolate lab. Mrs Binners recently went ballistic at just two such people who casually observed their 4-legged shitting machine curl out a massive steaming log right onto the steps in front of our house, then just turn and walk off. And hanging dog poo bags from the trees behind our house seems just the standard done thing to these strokers
I'm thinking of planting landmines or getting a snipers rifle
OP – what sort of poo bag was it then? I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable. Or was it just a sandwich bag or something?
Standard size Tescos branded carrier bag. (Which at 5p a pop must be the most expensive dog poo bag ever.) Perhaps they are biodegradable.
Sadly not. I have to specifically buy bio bags otherwise they stay hanging in the tree for ever.
Now that is staggering.
Every day is a school day. I always buy the degradable ones but I never leave them behind – however when they inevitably end up in landfill I'd rather they rot away a bit more quickly.
Although yesterday I had the misfortune of having to clear up a month's worth of dog waste (our spaniel was house-bound after an injury) from the garden AND dig out the rotting hell where we put waste on other occasions she'd dumped in the garden.
I do hate selfish dog owners though - and delight in giving them spare bags when I catch them trying to walk away from the scene of the crime saying 'sorry I forgot my poo bags today' 🙂
"I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable"
Given the phenomenal amount of bags of poo in my local woods I assumed that none were biodegradable.
I always assumed it was either:
like when somebody rams your car in a supermarket car park and then writes a note which says, "the person watching me write this note assumes I'm leaving my name and address";
or
like when gamekeepers used to skin moles and leave the skins hanging up pour encourager les autres - a sort of "if you make me bag my dogs shit up then I'll just leave it in a tree with some added turtle murdering plastic".
Luckily I live somewhere where I can just flick the poo into a hedge and spare the use of any bags. I have noticed that some people who do take the bag away hang it on their rear wiper (presumably don't want the smell in the car) but it then falls off or breaks off defeating the point.
I’ll just leave it in a tree with some added turtle murdering plastic”.
Point of order. Turtles are not, as a rule, arboreal. 😉
Also, do these people not have pockets?
It's a plastic enclosed dogshit .....not a plutonium scorpion dusted with anthrax.
Tie the bag and stick it in your jacket pocket until you get to a bin.
This has gotten on my nerves for a few years.
If I ever get around to it, one year at Xmas I'm going to collect enough of them to decorate a pine near the trailhead with these dog-shit-baubles and some tinsel, and perhaps a festive message along the lines of 'Merry Shitmas', or something more creative (if anything ever comes to me).
What's wrong with just letting the slugs and bugs scoff it? Apart from this time of year it's gone in two days.
‘Merry Shitmas’
.....and a Crappy New Year
On a bike ride with my son t'other day stopped at a little bridge over a stream to admire the view.
Then I noticed a number of 'Xmas decorations' hanging from a tree over the stream. No way could they have been placed there too far away. The location really couldn't be regarded as the start of any walk either. So must have been flung with no intention of coming back to collect them on the way home.
Also noticed the new habit of people hanging bag off the towbar / rear wiper and witnessed it dropping off with explosive consequences.
Lovely just lovely.
I tacoed a wheel at Swinley once and walked back down one on the dog walker routes.
The gate at the end was literally covered in poo bags of all colours. It was gross, god knows what the ranger does if he heeds to get through the gate with an ambulance.
It seems most people seem to think the problem isn't leaving turd in bags lying around, but that no one picks it up for you
I only ever hang mine in bio degradable bags. I like to do my bit for the environment, I'm not a total idiot.
I always assumed all poo bags were fully biodegradable
They generally are but peoples perception of biodegradable plastics is a bit different from the reality.
Most biodegradable plastics will still take years to degrade otherwise they would start to decompose before they got on the shelves
What I really fail to understand is that surely - the hard part of the operation is complete. You've picked up a warm turd. If you intended to leave it somewhere complete with plastic coating, why not just leave it as is (Steaming on the path) or "pretend" to pick it up in the first place.
I have said it before - and had stick on here for it - that there is a selfish majority (51%, yeah?) of dog owners who don't pick it up at all, who leave bags of the stuff lying or hanging around needlessly.
Add in the 'oh, he is only being friendly' as the hound lurches up at you or chases bike/shoes/screaming child, and I have had enough.
Idiots in all walks of life - and they tarnish the well behaved lot. 🙁
It's grim. Mrs P works with international vets that study all the horrible parasites that pet animals carry, some of which are incredibly harmful to humans. Why have we got ourselves in a position where it's accepted that you can own an animal (in growing numbers it seems) that endangers the health of other humans through the non disposal or badly carried-out disposal, of faeces. The Romans/Victorians solved these issues as far as our own species hygiene was concerned many years ago. <<rant over>>
The local wardens to us try hard with signs and bins, but they're too small and often overflowing which makes it a grim job to sort as per picture above and encourages tree hanging. A dog tax to pay for councils to employ specific, large and hygienic bin systems that can be emptied without stinking and endangering the staff having to empty them would be a start.
I does my head in, I always pick up after ours and carry it to a bin or whatever, it's hardly difficult or dirty if you do it properly... and standing in the stuff annoys me just as much as anyone else, I assure you.
I caught a guy last week bag up his dog poo and chuck it in a hedge at the local trails. Made him go in pick it up and take it to the nearest bin. Does my head in being a dog owner myself it gives us a bad name
Luckily I live somewhere where I can just flick the poo into a hedge and spare the use of any bags.
I'm glad your are not living with a botanist doing regular hedge surveys.
The local woods here have a stick and flick policy. It doesn't stop people bagging and depositing said bags around the nearest waymarker post.
I caught a bloke yesterday flinging a freshly laid dog egg in a bag in to a tree. When I challenged him his excuse was that he meant to throw it in the river!
When I told him that was just as bad he claimed that he didn't know where a bin was. I pointed to the large, silver cylindrical receptacle about 20 feet away. He just turned around and walked off.
There really are some cockwombles about.
Dog food tax or dog license would be a good thing but not a vote winner.
The inability to bag it and carry out should be a disqualification from owning a dog.
If I ever catch that lazy shit who lets his dog shit on the path near our house (it’s just the one dog) I’ll bag the shit then feed it to him so he has to shit his dogs own shit.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/i-questioned-someone-leaving-a-bagged-dog-poo-in-a-hedge/
Did a thread on this before. I asked them, conclusion is that a huge number of dog owners are entitled selfish shitheads.
..and Corbyn wants tenants to have the right to own pets. This, although not the cause of the problem of poo hanging off trees, won't help matters. Some people just simply shouldn't own certain animals. Dogs need space and having them cooped up in a flat is not good for them. If more people were allowed to own dogs there will be more shit everywhere.
Yep dog food tax is the way, but I also think there should be a chewing gum tax to pay for the council who haveto employ teams of specialist cleaners.
The perpetrators should be hung off a tree with poo bags hung around their necks. Disgusting scrotes.
Ah, the turdbag in a tree. A depressing symbol of modern UK life. Like the CCTV camera, or the plethora of signs and warnings that adorn every vertical public surface.
At least there is something comic about tha hanging turdbag. Not sinister or spiteful like the others. I once saw one hanging off the handle to somebody’s front door. Still makes me chuckle to this day. I think the comedy arises from a mixture of the sheer audacity of the act itself, the striking incongruous sight of a plastic bag full of shit hanging from a tree, often in a lovely area of natural beauty. And how angry it makes people.
Bio degradable poo bags hanging from trees, that's a smelly accident waiting to happen. A ticking time bomb I tell you.
The punishment for this crime should be to be pegged out under the tree of your filthy crime on a hot day and left there until a bag bursts and floods your mouth nose and eyes with it's stinking, maggotty, rancid liquor
..and Corbyn wants tenants to have the right to own pets. This, although not the cause of the problem of poo hanging off trees, won’t help matters. Some people just simply shouldn’t own certain animals. Dogs need space and having them cooped up in a flat is not good for them. If more people were allowed to own dogs there will be more shit everywhere.
And the prize for most brazen politicizing of an apolitical issue goes to... Bigblackheinoustoe! Well done that man.
Also, you know that people rent houses as well as flats, don't you?
Absolutely....house dwellers also become turd in a bag lobbers too. So that's even more cack in a bag hanging off a tree...potentially.
However, most flats in England have tenants. Therefore it's safe to assume that most tenants will be flat dwellers.
I'm just saying allowing tenants to have dogs, whatever type of dwelling, will increase the amount of cack everywhere. Additionally, I don't think it's particularly healthy to keep dogs in flats. Though if they were allowed to run free outside and then be allowed to crap in their owner's flats I wouldn't mind.
From or on trees, surely? The real victim here is the English language.
The local woods here have a stick and flick policy.
Errr, do you have a copy of that policy?
Bigblackheinoustoe - where is it ‘healthy’ to keep a dog then? On a ranch only? Inevitably, you have in your mind a tiny council flat. A ****less, workshy tenant - who can’t control the three massive Huskies that have eaten all the skirting boards.
There are multiple shades of flat, tenant and dog.
B) It’s still hung on a tree, which is the problem. Most places* are happy if you leave dog poo where it is as long as it’s not on the path.
*there’s reasons why not, like play areas, army training areas, sensitive ecosystems like sand dunes, but if you’re dogs just doing what bears do naturally, it’s fine.
It's really not fine anywhere. You may have noticed people don't always stick to paths - especially not children. And that can't possibly known for any particular place. And domestic dogs aren't like bears - domestic dogs are only there because people are there.
Anyone who lets their dog foul public areas should have the dog take from them and the dog destroyed - at the owners expense.
Or, ban all dogs from public areas expect designated exercise areas. That way it's only dog owners who will have to deal with the issue.
There are even academic studies
Essentially some people won't change
There is another study which I can't find the link to which shows most public parks are heavily infected with toxocariasis including the fenced of play areas. We essentially let our kids play in a biohazard
Jambourgie - Flats are mostly in built up areas, where there's a higher concentration of people. Let everyone have a dog. Where are those dogs going to crap?
Oh and in England most flat dwellers are tenants.
Most places* are happy if you leave dog poo where it is as long as it’s not on the path.
*there’s reasons why not, like play areas, army training areas, sensitive ecosystems like sand dunes, but if you’re dogs just doing what bears do naturally, it’s fine.
I spend my working life getting children and teachers outdoors. Our biggest issue at the moment is off the lead dogs and piles of ''hidden" shit in every corner of parks, woods, dunes and even school grounds. Apparently it's ok to let your hound curl one out as long as it's off the pitch. Stop being selfish and self justifying. Please pick it up and bin it.
Not commenting on the rights or wrongs, but the FC's 'stick and flick' policy is well documented.
https://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-8pymrq
Most places* are happy if you leave dog poo where it is as long as it’s not on the path.
No they really aren't but people have better things to do with their time than chase shithead dog owners around.
'Stick and flick' is the lesser of two evils it's far from ideal (in fact dog owners can't even manage that) - as a dog owner its your responsibility to pick it up and bin it.
And matt is correct never ending piles of dog shit 10cm to the side of tracks and footpaths is a huge reason why people won't take kids out to the countryside.
I spend my working life getting children and teachers outdoors. Our biggest issue at the moment is off the lead dogs and piles of ”hidden” shit in every corner of parks, woods, dunes and even school grounds. Apparently it’s ok to let your hound curl one out as long as it’s off the pitch. Stop being selfish and self justifying. Please pick it up and bin it.
Lost cause, the sense of entitlement in dog owners round here is something to behold. Our kids get dog shit on them 9 walks out of 10. I’d happily ban the things. Ironic really as I love dogs and grew up with them but people are just too selfish for it to work.
other selfish behaviour such as littering and smashing up the provided public facilities is depressing and disheartening but you used to be able to go out into the country to avoid it. Selfish pig thick dog owners have now made every walk their own personal shit facilities, right out into the far reaches of the South Downs.
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Not commenting on the rights or wrongs, but the FC’s ‘stick and flick’ policy is well documented.
Well documented, but I'm now feeling quite lucky not to have run through some, given that your link is to an area I've spent lots of time running off paths.
It really is very annoying isn’t it. I carry a large black bag with me when out riding. If I see somebody not picking up or hanging it from trees, I simply place the bag over their head and suffocate them. Of course I roll the corpse in to the bushes, can’t have it decomposing on the footpath.
This is also a brilliant way to amass your own dog collection.
This is in the same bracket as flytipping - really antisocial behaviour. I love dogs but owners need to be responsible.
That stick and flick nonsense a joke, pick it up ya lazy bastards.
I’m glad your are not living with a botanist doing regular hedge surveys.
So am I, can't think of a more boring person to live with. As for stick and flick, it really does depend where you live. If like me you live in a forest that is covered with horse shit, cow shit, fox shit, rabbit shit etc,. then a dog shit flicked under a hedge, into a bush and degrading naturally is better than using a plastic bag and putting it in a bin.
Just because other animals shit, it doesn't make leaving more shit about right in any way.
Oh Joy! My love of dog owners has just been increased yet more! If that were possible. We live on small steep rural roads and we tend to get more weather than most. The council fill grit bins on our roads so we can clear our pavements, steps and the road outside
We've had a lot of snow overnight so I go out to get some grit to clear the steps and pavement. Guess what the grit bin is full of? *ing bags of dog shit! Just chucked in there! Loads of them! *ing cheers you filthy bunch of selfish inconsiderate *s!!! *ing unbelievable!!!
Yeah, but PUPPIES!
binners: Perhaps they are dyslexic and misreading "grit bin"?
Shame you don't know where they live. You could have helpfully "gritted" their garden path for them.
Careful there Binners.
Wouldn't want you to burst a bloodvessel. 😉
However, most flats in England have tenants. Therefore it’s safe to assume that most tenants will be flat dwellers.
Staggering logic fail there. The second point might be true, but if it is, it certainly isn't established as such by the first.
So am I, can’t think of a more boring person to live with. As for stick and flick, it really does depend where you live. If like me you live in a forest that is covered with horse shit, cow shit, fox shit, rabbit shit etc,. then a dog shit flicked under a hedge, into a bush and degrading naturally is better than using a plastic bag and putting it in a bin.
True. You could live with the kind of cretin who thinks it ok to fling dog crap around the countryside.
Just pick up your dog waste. Stop justifying stupid selfish behavior.
For the hard of thinking:
Domestic dogs to not equal wild animanls
Domestic dogs are less important than the welfare of humans (in particular, domestic dogs are not greater than or equal to children - despite what some halfwits think)
Stepping in dog shit is far less annoying than been subjected to other people's children. All this hatred of dog owners, but imo its parents that are far more self entitled....
And that is before we even consider the impact on the environment of large families with multiple kids.
That said..i am a dog owner and would never consider hanging dog shit on anything.
Just because other animals shit, it doesn’t make leaving more shit about right in any way
Yes it does. It naturally bio degrades and is a better option than using a plastic bag and putting into waste
People are quick to comment without having a clue about the area I live in (Nobody is going to walk through a hedge and step on the poo, no children ever play in the areas etc,.)
Ths is why it is advised to flick into hedge as it is the best solution.
If I lived in a town and walked in parks etc,. I would not be leaving poo there.