[Closed] Grrrrrr. Bloody martial arts/New Model Army

you can always take out your frustration on a concrete block with your forehead 😉

1st dan grading can be rescheduled, surely?
Gig with extras can not, can it?
No brainer.

The next time I can do it is June (and I have been training up to this date)

I imagine my niece will get a few more backstage passes in her time 😯

sorry as an old militia NMA all the way, get ya cloggs out man!

Were you proper militia Tazzy? What era were you?

followed the army all over europe in the early 90's

Which tours? Our paths will have definitely crossed...

Did 90-94 myself (including a few trips over the channel)

I saw them at Bingley Little Theatre in 1983/84 with Joolz, Wild Willi Beckett and others (possibly Skeletal Family), I think it was a miners benefit gig, does that make me Militia? Slade the Leveller was very scary looking, sort of how I imagine Tazzy looks. 😉

I know B.A.Nana. It makes you pretty cool in my book (I don't want to hear about the Crass gigs 😉 )

Also - if Muddydwarf is listening, I am also jealous that he go to see Culture Shock. And has had Rev Hammer sleep on his settee.

I don't have much to brag about.

Slade the Leveller was very scary looking,

He's a lovely guy, and Joolz is really nice as well. They have loads of time for the snivelling sycophants like me!

B.A.Nana it makes you rather jolly cool in my books as well, just like all the old alternatives on here.

I was a delicate looking little soul with a massive mohawk and celtic tats and rather a lot of metal work in my face, whereas today i'm a mild mannered normal looking business man 😉

LOL - that was all of us!

Perhaps the more relevant question....what did you have painted on the back of your jacket/kit bag?

thunder and consolation on the bag, ghost of cain on the jacket 😀

Perhaps the more relevant question....what did you have painted on the back of your jacket/kit bag?

T & C celtic graphic of course 😀

[off to find details of the brixton gig]

right.. I don't know much about this cos I'm a bit too young.. but I thought you were just playing soldiers until you lived in the park with a dog on a string and a can of special brew..?

From that era - you'll know Tony, Danny, Husky, Colin, Dan...?

I had the Culture Shock logo on my bag, Levellers 'Riot' on my jacket. Most seen in Hippies With Attitude T-shirt...

Did i hear my name spoken??? 🙂

I had the immortal Hippies With Attitude shirt - only sold at Manchester at the end of the Impurity tour if i recall?

Off to see NMA on Thursday actually, i feel kinda sad that my days of trotting round Europe with a kitbag and a pair of para-clogs are far behind me now 🙁 Will be good to see all the old faces again though.

I got mine from Hyde Park Muddy...

(supporting the Mission. I remember we went to the 'warm up' at Digbeth a couple of nights before....that was messy!)

so, sc-xc are going to the gig now, powered by nostalgia or being a sensible grown up?

I could/can never bring myself to go back to gigs. Bands that were angry young men with a message have all turned into sad old gits with no more message other than we achieved nothing, we changed nothing, can we have some more of your cash please. 😕

NMA aren't like that Tazzy. Yes, they are older - but if you listen to anything they have done recently you will hear they are still relevant.

But I know what you mean, I could never go to an allnighter again (not without the drugs 😉 )

Perhaps we should have a STW gig night!

I certainly won't be throwing myself around in the mosh circles at the front that's for sure - my knees and other joints won't take it, and i doubt i'd be able to walk afterwards!

sc-xc, I still like them , but strange brotherhood really was the last album I listened to as for me, they just seemed to sink into a pit of mediocre grump, with no real passion. It's probably just be me that caught a dose of the "middle age" though.

I'm the same as Tazzy, Steve Ignorant has started doing Crass gigs under some other name, I just think the whole thing would be cringe worthy, certainly none of the others wanted anything to do with it, good luck to him like.
Tazzy might be interested in this [url= http://blog.southern.com/2011/12/subhumans-gigs/ ]Subhumans gigs[/url]

I certainly won't be throwing myself around in the mosh circles at the front that's for sure - my knees and other joints won't take it, and i doubt i'd be able to walk afterwards!

Which is why I couldn't possibly do a 7 hour grading the day after...

but strange brotherhood really was the last album I listened to as for me, they just seemed to sink into a pit of mediocre grump, with no real passion

They agree. It was a real low point in their career. Listen to Anything since. For example...

(and B.A.Nana - cheers for the SH link. I love Dick 😉 )

Must. Refrain. From... o sod it! 🙂

nice vid, compare and contrast with something from the 80's/90's and see all the fat middle aged IT geezers trying to regain their youth and it makes me sad, but that's just me. In answer to an earlier question, never "proper" militia as I spent too much time following other bands as well and was a wee scrote hanger on 😀

Who else Taz? For me it was mainly: Levs, BTTP, Senser, Chumbas, RDF, Poppies...

And I know what you mean about the following now - but the music still is ace 😀

FoTN, Rosetta Stone, Creaming Jesus, END-G saw senser lots as well

sc-xc, do you live in the Leeds/Bradford area? just curious with yer ref to visiting joolz for artwork.

I always found that those who considered themselves to be 'militia' were in the main a bunch of arrogant and elitist cock-strokers...

Ahhhhh, so you were a bit gothier than me! Bloody Goths. No wonder you ride silly bikes now. I bet you used to knock around with John the Drummer 😉

It's all good. I still love live music, and I am stupidly looking forward to seeing Professor Green next year (it's for my son, don't tell him I'm excited!)

MD - that's why I asked. I was just a normal Army fan, but it seems so was Taz.

BA - nope. Have visited her in Stoke and at (the ill fated) Bradford Ink. I'm delighted she has her own studio in Bradford now. It reminds me of the pilgrimage we used to make to Walkleys, and the little place in Bradford that sold the silver NMA pendants!

sc-xc the goth ladies were far prettier and pale skin in black lace and corsets is soooooo much more appealing than a manky jumper and paraboots 😀

Oh yeah, those pendants - weren't they originally made by a bloke called Gilly who had a little shop in the Walkleys factory?

I'm still wearing a silver knotwork ring made by him nearly 25yrs later!

Taz -

Exhibit A:

[img] http://www.arrse.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=58311&d=1323596280 [/img]

Exhibit B:

[img] [/img]

my old walkley mill boots finally died a couple of years ago, it was period of mourning 🙁

normal Army fan

surely an oxymoron! 😆

I think so MD. It was all a blur. I had the T&C knot, the NMA and the snake/cross from the acoustic EP cover.

I loved the cottage industries that sprung up then. There was a guy a couple of years later that made a decent living of carving Levellers pendants from spoon handles!

I've still got that snake and cross pendant in my drawer! Ah, nostalgia....

exhibit B

[img] [/img]

[img] [/img]

Have you got an old Culture Shock t-shirt you fancy selling? I keep looking on ebay!

I resembled the above! 🙂

Exhibit A

[img] [/img]

No i haven't, all my old gig shirts dissolved through yrs of wear. Only one i have left is my RedSkyCoven '89 vest...

47 posts and not one comment about the OP's niece.....a Singletrack first?

If that's the black one with the knot - then I still have that. As well as the Germany only issue of the dogs t-shirt, the aforementioned HWA, and any number of standard tour shirts.

It's funny what was important back then!

how do. did I hear my name mentioned?

I'm not sure whether I knew B.A.Nana then, and I'm still not sure if I know him now 😯

I used to be in a Bradford band called Seven Dead Astronauts/Americans, often just abbreviated to SDA. We did a few gigs with Pyschosurgeons, and also opened up for UK Subs, Dr & The Medics and, of course, NMA - Bradford University Great Hall, I think it was on the Impurity tour but I could be wrong.

I left the band after a disagreement over whether food or studio time was a better use of what little money I had.

The guy that replaced me in that band was none other than Michael Dean.
The band later became known as Bomb Circle, but by this point I'd moved across town & completely lost touch with EVERYBODY.

Yeah, i always thought i'd never change, now i don't even recognise that young kid!

Yeah, i always thought i'd never change,

funny how things come back to the beginning though. the bass player in my current band was the sound guy for SDA back in the 80s

Getting all nostalgic too! I wasn't a real hardcore fan compared to you up there, but did have a big hand painted thunder and consolation knot on the back of my parka - used a dinner plate to draw the outline!

My mate's neighbour is a cockney called Al who claims to be one of the original militia, who stood still down the front and never danced at all, until Justin wrote a song just for him to dance to. Ring any bells? He's now into carp fishing and runs a dog grooming parlour!

John_Drummer, I'm pretty certain we don't know each other. I'm a bit of a charlatan TBH, although I saw some great Punk/goth bands 1981-1985, my interest was pretty short lived, around 1985 I moved on (I think I threw in the towel after The Cult 'Love' album). The only 'circulating' I did was at the 1in12 club approx '83-'85. The only bands from that era I've seen since were Dead Kennedys in 1987ish and The Cramps in 1991ish. It certainly was never a lifestyle, like I presume it was for others on here, for starters I was only 15-18 yo.

BTW John, we're now friends on Facebook. I spotted you as a friend of Andrew Hudson, who I used to be best mates with when we were about 10yo.

Justin wrote a song just for him to dance to.

Any idea what that song was?

sc-xc the goth ladies were far prettier and pale skin in black lace and corsets is soooooo much more appealing than a manky jumper and paraboots

As something of a Suicide Girls fan I wholeheartedly agree. I was always a Sisters Of Mercy/Mission fan back then, so pale and interesting girls or the guys from black lace ticks a few boxes with me.

[img] [/img]

Still does for me - unfortunately those girls were few and far between, although i do remember some real beauties from Cloud9 and The Banshee 🙂

Mostly though, they were, shall we say.. rather plump and ruddy faced....

we need an "old blokes who used smell of patchouli and/or cider" ride organising with a soundtrack!

With stick-on mohicans on our helmets! 😆

LOL

He didn't tell me the song although I pushed to find out, even went home and tried to stalk him looking through sleeve notes. He said he was mentioned in them, but something tells me he was going by a suitable alias back then rather than "Al the dog groomer!" No reason not to believe him though.

Might have to dig my parka out and get a shot. I've got some logo'd up para boots in the attic.

I too thought I'd never change - and never cut my hair for 'the man'! Ha!

On the subject of Goth girls, do any of you recall Anne-Marie from Skeletal Family/Ghost Dance, she was very popular with the Goth blokes back in the day, she lives just up the road from me and still gigging I've heard. I used to have a massive crush on her, still do.
[img] [/img]

she was lovely, I always had a thing for Anja from Xmal and patricia morrison as well

First saw NMA in '84 and bought a silver pendant the following year, which has been worn ever since. Used to see them regularly upto and including the Impurity tour, then kind of got out of the live music scene. I also used to do several tour dates of other bands around that time, without really 'following' them too far afield. They included the Mission, the Neph, the Hunters Club and Salvation.

I took my eldest daughter to see NMA at the Academy in Manchester on the Today... tour. She was around 19 at the time and had crammed in masses of concerts all over the country, but had never seen anything like the Army live. The whole venue seemed to morph into one huge single entity and the sight of 3-story pyramids left her gob-smacked!!

all we need is Picto and Keef and pretty much all the old freaks have turned up on one thread 😀

I took my eldest daughter to see NMA at the Academy in Manchester on the Today... tour. She was around 19 at the time and had crammed in masses of concerts all over the country, but had never seen anything like the Army live.

[img] [/img]

Anyone else do the S****horpe Baths gig, probably after No Rest charted in '85? With the venue having being made famous by Jasper Carrott, there was no way I wasn't going that night!! My hazy recollection is of Hammer & Sickle and Joolz supporting. Joolz (reading poetry) kept getting heckled, so stopped and asked for the shouts to be 'constructive'. The instant reply of "Flash us yer ferret then..." still makes me smile now. She realised that she was on a loser after that so just continued on.

Braver man than me then - Joolz terrfied me back then!

Name mentioned? Just like faust here I am.
Goth Ride you say? Will have to get the niner sprayed in the blackest of black.

Goth Ride you say? Will have to get the niner sprayed in the blackest of black.

I'll get some skull buckles for my spd's 😀

See them shimmy see them go
And stuff.

can we build a pyramid at least 3 high whilst riding, like a mountain bike display team as well all singing the chorus to "I love the world"

Now the idea is out it would be impolite not to.