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The better half has finally succumbed to getting a practical vee-hickle for a mum of two (currently a Figaro) and has settled on the qashqai (wanted a Q5 but thankfully saw sense). Is there anything to know about these currently looking at a 59 plate tekna with 100,000 on the clock (looks tidy enough). Owt to watch out for on the service records etc? Good, bad, stupid?
the visibility in them is awful, I'd recommend getting the one with parking cam if that's within your budget.
Myself & 2 colleagues have these, 60 plate 1.5d ntec models, all have had new clutches around 105k, £2500 a time as they all needed flywheels, the interior build quality is terrible hasn't lasted well at all, the boot is tiny for the size of the car, fuel economy for me is awful, at best 45mpg on very long runs, if I travel the 6 miles into Birmingham city centre I get about 25. It's comfy though & hasn't broken down once, BUT there is no way anyone could pay me enough to have another one. I literally hate it beyond words, roll on new car March 🙂
Check for a juddery clutch on pull away, listen for a clunk from the back when going over bumps they go through suspension bushes regularly & make sure the bootlid doesn't rattle when driving
Hiya,
Get a Skoda Yeti far better....I tested both the Yeti is great cos the seats can be taken out and car turned into Van 😉
On my Second one no problems so far in 60K of driving them. The 170BHP one very nippy and scares Corsa drivers LOL.
JeZ
Good shouts, Jezzep, she's made her mind up and the lady's not for turning
dont nissan still use dodgy renault parts in their engines? thats what put me off from buying one 18 months ago...
Q5 is a great car..
was disapointed by the same Engine in the note.... v unreliable thankfully for most of its Life with us it was a Company car....main dealer service and parts are expensive and reliabilty is not at the standard of older models
yep, Renault engine, sounds like a bloody tractor. I tried sending mine back when it was delivered as I thought there was a problem with it, only to be told "they all sound like that"
Q5 is a great car..
perhaps but it is also a bit spendy.
I thought it was interior parts, not engine parts? Had an x-trail for nearly 3 years and not had issues bar a heat plate underneath that's come loose and rattles until the car warms up a bit. (Of course I've just put a curse on it now)
If Mrs Thestabilliser wants a Qashqai and you are concerned about issues on the 59 plate you are looking at, then why don't you look at leasing deals? There were some very cheap deals around for Qashqai's a few months ago and with a new one you will have the benefit of the manufacturers warranty.
Quick search shows they are starting around £170 a month.
Boot is tiny for the size of the car. Seem pointless to me. Many more crossovers are more practical and since the whole point of the them is to be more practical than a small car but cheaper than a propper 4x4 the Nissan being a bit shit at practical seems to defeat the object.
Get a CRV instead. Won't break, ever, much more room inside and a huge boot.
thestabiliser - Member
Q5 is a great car..
perhaps but it is also a bit spendy.
Fair enough although based on previous experience of me having Germans cars and the wife having japanese, they often hold their value better so can cost less to own overall.
had the old pre Renault x trail 190 k Before things went wrong.
Post Renault Note @ 120 k pretty much Everything went wrong + dealer was dire..... failed to rebolt top Engine mounting then denied that they had taken the Engine out..... (for a clutch, cam belt and injection pump)
Got to be a Qashqai - she hath spoken , her mates got one and it's 'nice'.
Is the petrol any better - bit more on tax but fuel costs are pretty marginal for a shortish commute etc?
I got one of these as a hire car once.
Don't EVER take it out in the snow. It's dreadful (2WD one). Spent most of the journey from Elgin to Edinburgh trying not to fudge my duds.
Fuel economy is woeful.
Rear visibility is really bad.
Also, got a flat and the jack supplied with the car actually bent under the weight of the car (I watched it bend over about 30 seconds then collapse). This was at 5am in -14 degrees - I was not amused. Get a decent jack in the boot. Oh and the spare isn't full size and I don't think you can actually fit a full-size one in the space either.
I know yer missus is set on it but hopefully this is somewhat useful...
I agree a sqaushy is awful I hired one in Spain this year by accident and it was pants.
Got to be a Qashqai - she hath spoken , her mates got one and it's 'nice'.
then you need to tell her that she needs something nicer than her mate! 😀
It's an anti-tardis. Looks big outside, but is tiny inside. Especially the boot.
Q5 is a great car..
to deal drugs from, or if you're a wanna be WAG but cant quite stretch to a proper Range Rover 😉
CRV, Sportage, Q5, Yeti all miles better..
+ 2 YETI 🙂
Don't get it in chav white
Qashqai? a bit "Mumsnet" innit...
Especially the [i]+2[/i] seven seater version. big lump of a car so it "feels safe". I'd much rather have an XC90 if that's the sort of thing you're after but I'd imagine they hold value a bit better than Nissan would so you'd be paying more...
I say this I've just talked the SO out of the idea of a high mileage/older seven seater lump, in favour of a newer, smaller C-Max. purely on practicality, lower miles on the clock, and to give her a chance of knowing where the corners might be.
For some reason whatever her mates are driving seems to influence her disproportionately too, I had to really talk her out of a Grand Scenic, because one of her friends (with more kids to shift) has just gotten one...
Volvo's are much "nicer" places to sit IMO, but I couldn't talk her round to a V70...
Could she be persuaded by being sat in something "Even nicer" than what her mates got?
I know very little about cars, but I do know Qashquis are quite bollocks, and this thread doesn't belong in the bike forum.
this thread doesn't belong in the bike forum.
OP may have to transport bike(s) in the car they eventually buy, So I reckon it does. Ha!
Spare parts on my Nissan are horrendously expensive, not consumables like discs and pads particularly (probably because the local garage can get them after market), but other parts. For example, replacement rear wheel sensor = £250, it's just a little bit of plastic on the end of a cable. local garage says all Nissan parts are silly expensive (even the Micra), they try and use Renault branded parts if they know it's exactly the same.
Just been convinced by you all not to bother with a quasqui now. The crv looks probable however in my price range they all seem to have at least 100k on the clock. Would this be something to worry about too much? I have always had smaller and newer cars.
Not sure about comments re boot space - ours is an inch longer than the golf but way bigger boot space - road bikes in with wheels attached, etc.
Petrol is fairly wheezy but will chug along at 70 - for short commutes don't bother with a diesel.
In snow, with winter tyres the 2wd has driven where an awful lot of other cars haven't managed.
The rear boot lock is rattling in ours, just a slight inconveience and not worth the mental money they quoted for replacement.
Stops, starts and has been reliable in the 7 years we've had it - it's a workhorse - tip runs, bike in back, IKEA visits. Plus it helped we knew someone at the factory so mahoosive discount. Sits around a lot as cycle in so low mileage so can't really comment on any woes for big milers.
Think it's one of those cars people like to get superior about (especially people who 'know nothing about cars but 'know' a Quash is rubbish'....). Never gonna win any prizes for looks, brand quality etc. but, touch wood, not let us down so far. Not in desperate hurry to get rid of it.
breatheeasy - MemberThe rear boot lock is rattling in ours, just a slight inconvenience and not worth the mental money they quoted for replacement.
The dealership fixed my lock by wrapping the part attached to the car in the boot with electrical tape to "thicken it up" a bit
I can't get a bike in the back with both wheels attached. Honestly I hate mine so much when I get home from work (it's a company car) it's just parked up & I use my Volvo, even though fuel, repairs etc don't cost me a penny in the kumquat I'd rather pay to use my own car.
Had one, it was sh!te in many ways, ask her to put some money in the bank to cover repairs. That will get her to change her mind.
My better half has a 1.5 ntec so mpg is good and no issues with running it but mind your head on the boot when's it open. It's stupidly low...
I'm on my second Ford kuga which is a lot better ') but the boot could be bigger.
Ouch! 100k on a 59 plate. Based on that, youre looking for a bargain, as you dont want to spend a fortune. But looking at the comments your total cost of ownership will outweigh that cheap first spend.
Get a decent vehicle, with decent reviews. Just cause it looks how your wife wants it to look, doesnt mean its a good car to own.
Id buy something with lower mileage, with less features that was more reliable.
Youve got a solution, but whats the problem youre trying to solve? What criteria do you have?
I saw a 61 plate with 43k on the clock go through the car auctions in Leeds for 6k. I was tempted to buy one so many say there are pants. A 61 Yeti 2.0 Diesel with 53k was 9.2k
Mother in law had a 58 plate, it was a terrible car. Rattled about everywhere and the clutch went at 85k miles 3 weeks after she bought it, luckily still under warranty from the garage.
After all the bad experiences you are getting on is thread, it may be wise to try and change her mind.
If you can't, tell her she can have one but you won't be contributing to the buying, running costs and repair bills.
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I'm ex Nissan drop me a pm if you want.
They have a reasonable boot. Don't forget it's only the same length as a focus.
The plus 2s the seats are gash but the extra boot room tends to be why they were bought.
The 1.6 petrol is gash crap on fuel and gutless. The 2.0 petrol thirsty. 2.0 d is not quite as good as it should be. My fav is the 1-6dci and then the 1.5 sci
Like I say ask away
I'm just surprised you've decided to chop in the Figaro. That workhorse has barely missed a beat in all the time you've had it. Can't have been an easy decision.
I think the best advice on this thread has been to get a Yeti. Sensibly specced, you should have cash enough left over to get her a £500 banger from outside The Swan.
Sensibly specced? - you've just shattered my dreams.
Tried to kill the bastard by overfilling the oil, it ****in survived though. Then had to reapir it quick before she took it in the garage. Ahhh, the merry dance.
Anyone want to buy a figaro?
Duncan,
it seems clutches are the main worry, is there anything to look out for if we were to test dive one, think I've discounted the one on the previous page, although it does surprise me that people are sniffy about a modern car with 100k on the clock. That says motorway miles to me, probaly a cleaner engine than one with 30k shuttling the sprogs and going to 'the traff' at the same age?
Got to be a Qashqai - she hath spoken , her mates got one and it's 'nice'.
So long as she's paying for it and paying to service it then there's no problem.
If she wants you to pay for it then you can simply say "no", unless your mind is already made up for you.
She'll be paying mostly i might have to cough up a bit - 1k or so - to buy but the bulk of the buying and runnning costs are hers.
What about a Note?
Okay.
"Dear Mrs Stabiliser
Please don't buy a Quasquai as they're bobbins.
Love
The internet"
'Eww, notes are grandard cars, duh'
Sorry fella.
I'd rather see more motorway miles. Duel masses are everyone's favourite gripe. GET OVER IT they are on everything so don't discount it just because it might fail. I only ever saw one major mechanical failure on the 1500dci which was a cam.
I'd look at a teckna or ntec.
Notes are ace
Kia Sportage
Kuga
Honda crv
Stop messing about and just get a Yeti. I know they are expensive but they hold their value, nothing else holds it's value better. On average 69% after 3 yrs from new. I hummed and haaa'd for months then got one. They are very very good. Handles really well for a car that sits so high. I get about 43mpg out of mine on fast A roads going to work. 2.0 TDI 4x4. Build quality is excellent. I would have no reservations about buying one second hand. Would probably go for the 1.8 petrol turbo 4x4.
Still slightly puzzled by why a mum of 2 needs a hulking brute like a Quashqai, or how it qualifies as practical, but hey ho..........
I was given one as a hire car a few years ago. I drove half a mile before returning it and asking for a car that I could see out of (i'm 6ft) and actually felt nice to drive. Quite possibly the least pleasant driving experience I can remember. As I spent 2 weeks working as a driver at a car auction house it had some stiff competition, but somehow managed it!
Still slightly puzzled by why a mum of 2 needs a hulking brute like a Quashqai
1. Google Nissan Figaro
2. To put kids and associated paraphenalia in
3. Logic isn't the main criterion in this selection
Whilst your contribution and that of others suggesting alternatives are welcome they are ultimately fruitless. The die has been cast and come up Qashqai. What I need to know is if we're getting one of these, then how do I choose one of the better ones? Duncan, gives me something to shoot at, cheers. May PM you if I spot something if that's OK?
Im still surprised that 31/33 people that have replied have said the Qashcai is horrific, and to be fair the comments arent just niggles, its that the car is horrible to drive, thirsty, expensive to repair and small.
But yet because your wife has decided based on the view of one person, with a vested interest, says its a good car, you cant pursuade her to change her mind.
For comparison, check out , my recent thread about VW caddys. The responses are completely different.
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-got-a-vw-caddy ]Vw Caddy thread[/url]
Each to their own, but id rather help someone save some cash, time anx heartbreak than sit idly.
Ill leave the thread now, and watch with baited breath.
If you do buy one, can you update the thread with how things are going?
I test drove the new shape qashqai a while back. Nice, but the electronic parking brake concept will always worry me.
I'm looking at a 2011 Ford Kuga on Sunday. Titanium spec, 4wd, 163 horses, 47mpg (allegedly), cruise control, part leather seats, automatic everything but the gearbox, etc etc. Boot isn't huge but the overall cabin + boot should be big enough for my needs
The Qashqai is up there with the Renault Captur as one of the most hateful pieces of automotive engineering I've had the displeasure to hire.
corroded - Member
The Qashqai is up there with the Renault Captur as one of the most hateful pieces of automotive engineering I've had the displeasure to hire.
Have you ever hired (or had hired for you) a Nissan Micra?
We had a test drive in the new shape last year and thought it was ok if a little tinny. Disappointed by the rear seat access though and since it was to replace a Focus for child duties it didn't fit the bill.
Ended up getting a Ford Kuga and we're very pleased with it. Plenty of space for boy, prams, dog, child stuff etc and very easy to access with nice long rear doors. Very comfy also.
I'm going to have to jump in with the yeti crowd.
Ace, love mine but only get to drive it at the weekends...wife has it during the week.
Bring on the snow!!!!
I don't know anything about qashqais.
But I've never seen stw so united in hatred.
I've been here since beer.
Red wine for me 😉
dazz - Member
Myself & 2 colleagues have these, 60 plate 1.5d ntec models, all have had new clutches around 105k, £2500 a time as they all needed flywheels,
Surely this is typo or you are mistaken?
There a bit "suv at any cost" for me, I bet if she sat in something different that would be her new favourite, that's how my brain works anyway.
I like mine.....however a petrol head I am not, and my 59 plate ntec spec qashquai is the first none banger I've had.
Mines a 1.5 diesel and is very economical, but sees a lot of motorway miles.
86k on the clock. The entire left front brakes, caliper/discs etc failed just before Xmas. £350
The clutch is going (£2.5k?!!) I hope not
The starter motor is going :-/
timc - MemberSurely this is typo or you are mistaken?
No typo or mistake I can see in there, what were you referring to?
Dont PX the Figaro- have a go at selling it. Apparently their values are taking right off due to its cult status.
Judging by the number you seen on the roads and used as family cars Nissan must be doing something right. OP I appreciate the lady is not for turning but if she shows an incling of doing so you might suggest a Rav4, we ran a 2000 model for 10 years as our family run about (3 kids) and it worked really well (few issues with dealership replacing cat/exhaust under extended warranty but traced via online forums to faulty warning light due to bad battery !)
"Dont PX the Figaro- have a go at selling it. Apparently their values are taking right off due to its cult status."
never dipped really , good figaros have always been a saught after car.
Driving style has ALOT to do with dual mass flywheel failures - i also believe that many garages are changing the flywheel un neccesarily because of the publics "fear" of them - ie its easy to convince the layman that its worth spending heaps now to save on labour of doing it again later.
suggest you dont look at the cost of replacing a rav 4 steering rack unit - scary. the part is cheap - the 18 hours labour autodata quote as you need to lift the engine out is just stupid - and as with any 5-10 year old toyota ive been in - dull as dishwater and with enough rattles and squeeks to suggest its only just holding together - the old adege of the hilux never been truer - "impossible to break but only just holding together"
Even though we didn't go for the Nissan my cousin and mate at work both have one of the style you're looking at and both rate them and have had no worries.
I'd have considered a Yeti but the Mrs said a flat no to a Skoda even after I said they were basically a VW. The answer to that was 'Well we'll have a VW then'. 🙄
What? Qashqais are bobbins?
News to me.
We're loving our new shape 1.5 dCi NTec.
Amazing equipment. Great interior. Looks nice. Has done an average of 60mpg over the last 6k miles. Mrs C loves the overhead view parking cameras. My iPod sounds great through the stereo.
And we hated the Skoda we test drove. Does that make us very odd?
Alot of STW'ers hate the Citroen Xsara Picasso. Theres a shed load on the roads though and I must admit, I loved mine for what it was. Same with any car really.What? Qashqais are bobbins?News to me.
I bet yours isn't on 100k though. I wouldnt want to walk into a Renault-product at 100k.
trail_rat - Member
with enough rattles and squeeks to suggest its only just holding together
My old Mondeo was held together with rattles and squeaks. If I understand engineering correctly.
The figgy's tatty, would love to keep it really but that's mean a renting a garage etc. will probably sell it to the specialist who looks after unless we can find a [s]sucker[/s] buyer ourselves, but it's really a project for an enthusiast.
I bet yours isn't on 100k though. I wouldnt want to walk into a Renault-product at 100k.
No, you're right - it was new in October. And it won't get to 100k miles with us because it's on a lease. Happy days!!
the new kumquat is much much nicer than the old model, wife's cousin has just got one
I genuinely don't understand why these type of cars (Quashkai,Kuga,that Vauxhall thing etc etc) are so popular
All other cars from little city cars up to big 4x4's like RR's seem to do something well - even if its just saying look at my bling, Estate cars lug loads and drive well, People carriers like Picasso's up to Galaxy's lug loads of kids around in a cheap or expensive way. All cars seem to have their point
Except something like a Kuga or a Quashkai. Why would you drive something that's heavy and big on the outside, rubbish on fuel, small on the inside yet not capable of going offroad or lugging a trailer, or sleeping in or....anything. They drive terribly due to the extra height and weight and bad visibility unless they are covered in expensive compensating electronics. Why not get an astra or a focus or even a fiesta which seems to have almost as much room inside as a Kuga
Really don't get it.
I genuinely don't understand why these type of cars (Quashkai,Kuga,that Vauxhall thing etc etc) are so popular
Couples think the slightly bigger dimensions/sitting position means they must be safer post-near miss/accident or if they have small children. The lady I helped stuck in snow on her Fiat500- I bet shes traded it in for a large SUV now the belief it'll cope better.
"My old Mondeo was held together with rattles and squeaks. If I understand engineering correctly."
strange really cause both my 10 year old "shit" french cars are held together with nuts and bolts - and dont rattle and squeek at all.... i wouldnt tollerate it - the mrs reckons im OCD when it comes to noise/cars - they must work as designed ,nothing broken and nothing rattle/squeeking - even an empty can in the door car would send me mad.
It was 15 years old when I got it for the princely sum of £350.
Drove it for three years and spent about the same over that time, then scrapped it for £140.
As for tolerating it, just turn the radio up 🙂
I genuinely don't understand why these type of cars (Quashkai,Kuga,that Vauxhall thing etc etc) are so popular
it's a fashion thing. I'm planning on getting a Kuga because I like how it looks, and I think most people that buy the crossover style are the same.
wouldn't it be a dull world if we all liked the same thing?
Hi all,
My Yeti took myself and my son to Exmoor over the summer we took all the seats out of the back and turned it into a Van. The bikes with the Front wheel removed can stand upright no problem. All the Camping gear primus food the lot....Then best still 43MPG from the 2ltr diesel.
This is my second one not aware of any issues of reliability they are built well and take a pounding. The only gripe if there is one is that all Skoda's are noisy in the interior and road and engine noise are quite prevalent. I have a friend with a brand new CashCow and even though it is the same size it has nowhere near the space or flexibility. My last one because of VAT changes I practically sold for almost the price I paid for it after 35K miles...
Try for the old shape SE plus they come with satnav and heated seats 😉
BR
JeZ
Except something like a Kuga or a Quashkai. Why would you drive something that's heavy and big on the outside, rubbish on fuel, small on the inside yet not capable of going offroad or lugging a trailer, or sleeping in or....anything. They drive terribly due to the extra height and weight and bad visibility unless they are covered in expensive compensating electronics. Why not get an astra or a focus or even a fiesta which seems to have almost as much room inside as a Kuga
Well, we went from the current shape Focus to the current Kuga and can tell you you're quite wrong.
It's considerably bigger then the Focus, especially in the back which is very important when you've got a 1 year old to lug in and out of a car seat. Due to the height I can comfortably put my boy in his car seat standing up straight where as in the Focus it involved twisting and bending. First world problem/solution yes but still a reason to buy.
Top Gear mag have had a Kuga on long term test and one of the things they commented on was how good it was as a towing vehicle. As for fuel economy I've actually been pleasantly surprised economy wise with the official MPG being 50mpg-ish as on longer runs it'll hover around 45mpg. Even around town it'll do high 30's + which isn't too bad for a hefty 4x4 IMO.
Driving wise it's not as dynamic as the Focus but it's very comfy and makes journeys easy. It's not a 'drivers car' but is very far from terrible. It's actually quite fun in a big lump kind of way to chuck aboout. The high roofline makes it feel much bigger inside then it perhaps is and as mentioned it's a good deal bigger then the Focus with a much more useful boot.
Suggesting a Fiesta or Astra (We have them at work and they're hateful things) as an alternative clearly shows you have no idea what you're on about as the Kuga is in another league size and quality wise.
Defense of my own motor over.
I know an engineer who works on the Quashqai for Nissan and he drives....a Caddy.
