Yeah, it was a gamble booking to go to Greece 8 weeks ago...but I’ve been working non-stop through all ‘this’ and desperately needed a getaway For me and the kids..
All was looking so good...despite the arm being in a cast I’d prepped and realised we could manage...
Then COVID figures start to climb... arses...
So.. on wed morning we’re due to head off for 10 days of much needed sun and all inclusive relaxation... but.... will it happen!
Looking at the x/100,000 trends, it would appear that Greece is likely to face quarantine on return, but will Tui ‘call it’ before we head off....
Interesting times.
I’ll be SOOOO gutted for me and the kiddies if it’s cancelled.. I guess there’ll be naff all available at such short notice won’t there...
I can’t face 2 weeks of trying to keep everyone happy with a busted arm any more ...
🙁
DrP
Just did a random Airbnb search for your dates. There’s accommodation available in Dumfries & Galloway, Isle of Man etc. Not sure that helps, but there are options. Good luck.
thank you.. will have a see how the next day pans out.
DrP
Good luck Dr P, we are about to embark today on a Norfolk Staycation today in lieu of a similar Menorca holiday.
I had a heated conversation with a friend of mine Friday who thinks yours - and mine - need for a break is ridiculously entitled, after all we’ve been working from the luxury of our own homes (mostly ) for months he says. As much as I tried to explain it, he doesn’t get it. I wish I could explain it in a few words!
Anyone using the word staycation should be publicly flogged. You're just going on holiday.
What do you call going abroad on holiday? An awaycation? Is long haul a farfarawaycation?
FFS
I’d always assumed it was term used when you cancelled a holiday overseas and decided to “stay” in the UK, as opposed to originally just booking a holiday here. Hence, staying rather than going.
Anyway, calm down it’s not the end of the world.
I totally get the need/desire to get away. The four of us have been living/working/studying in the same four walls for 5 months now. Though the way some people bang on about their "need" to have a fortnight in an all inclusive resort somewhere unpleasantly hot does grate at times, and that's in a non-covid year. 😄
We tend not to have foreign holidays as a family anyway, but this year it just seemed too much of a risk of cancellation and/or quarantine. Got a long weekend in the cheapest cottage we could find in Cumbria next week. Can't wait to get away.
A staycation is staying at home, doing all the touristy things in your local area.
Anything else is a holiday.
A staycation is staying at home, doing all the touristy things in your local area.
Anything else is a holiday.
This 👆
We were lucky to get away for a week to a Scottish Island. The weather was piss poor (hey it's Scotland 🙂 ) but just getting out of the house for a week was very welcome.
The concept of need around holidays is as much about mental health as anything - and we know people are in different places with that. Try to do what you need to do and ignore anyone else's judgement.
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Sounds like you need a holiday mate.
yeah.. guess it's more mental health, quality tone with my kids etc...
I just need a break.. have been continuing to work (obvs) from the surgery.. but had ANY time off for fractured wrist...i just need to stop really!
DrP
Anyway, calm down it’s not the end of the world.
Or it might be, not the use of a phrase, just more in general! 🙂
Yep, holiday was definitely needed here as well. I was lucky though, as my sister has a house in the French Pyrenees, so we've just been there for 10 days or so. Unfortunately now have to quarantine for 2 weeks, but I'm still so glad we managed to get away. Staring at the same space for too long gets to you and you just need a break.
+1 with staycation. I always thought it just meant actually staying at home and not going away.
Norfolk Staycation
Begging you pardon, but us poor people be calling them holidays, your worshipful Lordship.
Being able to get away for a few days is important for your mental well being. It's a very first world problem and many of us are guilty of worrying too much about it.
I don't envy anyone having to make the decision about cancelling a foreign family holiday right now, so many different factors to take in. Financial, physical health, mental health, pressure from family members etc. Plus there's the issue of possibly becoming the person/people who are unwittingly transmitting Covid to another area or bringing it back with you.
The concept of need around holidays is as much about mental health as anything – and we know people are in different places with that. Try to do what you need to do and ignore anyone else’s judgement.
I've got no hope of a holiday this year and my mental health is taking a beating because of it. Having to deal with elderly and ill parents who are in temporary accommodation due to being flooded out back in February, losing my job, uncertainty of where the next permanent job could be, trying to earn a bit of extra cash to build up the savings with a temporary job that's doing my nut in while I wait for my redundancy payment to land and worrying about friends and family with their situations is destroying me. To all of you dealing with the extra stress of kids and the multiple layers of responsibility that plies on, I'm amazed you're coping! For you any holiday is well deserved.
I am trying not to get annoyed about the misuse of "staycation" - which means having time off work but spending it "staying home".
Having a holiday in your own country is just that - a holiday. Or if you are American a "vacation" - perhaps that is where the confusion is setting in.
Judging by the angst in here about a single word, a few people need a holiday.
Anyway, the kids are overexcited and I'm tired already - time to go on.... whatever.
Norfolk Staycation
Staying with your brother, sister and cousins or mother and father as they’re known.
I wouldn't worry about the Greek figures.
IMO, new cases are only rising so dramatically, because the rate of testing is doing the same
Greece's death rate is probably one of the lowest in Europe, it spiked the other day to 5, typically between 0 and 3. New daily infection rates around 230.
Of course, governments will use percentages to scare the living shit out of everyone. A 700% rise in the lat two weeks sounds a lot worse than a rise of 200.
Just go and enjoy the sun in a country far better off than ours with this virus. Don't forget the PLF form for return, it's supposed to be APITA
Planning a trip to Greece in September. Not at all worried about quarantine when we get back (we can work from home, no kids) adn even less about catching it from someone, as we will be staying on our own in the middle of nowhere. We will take extra precautions to keep away from locals lest we be the vectors of disease.
What seems more likely is that Greece may require a Cv19 test for travellers, which will be a pain to arrange (hence my question on the main Cv thread).
(The form for return is not that big of a PITA since nobody ever checks what you put, but there is also a Greek form to fill in that you have to do correctly and get a QR code or they won't let you on the plane. I think you can do it on the Visit Greece app or website)
I believe the Greek airport testing is random, or maybe based on your QR code scan, which will give up your UK (higher risk?) location - at least it is in Corfu, the wife and her sister are going next Monday
Sorry I wasn't clear. Greece requires a Cv19 test certificate for travellers from some countries e.g. NL. Could be that they add UK. The test has to be less than 72 hours before travel (arrival?) so that is a bit of a stress to book 🙁
Cyprus is the same currently.
Can you plot Greece's figures over another counties and find one that matches the closest. May give you an idea of time line. Also see if there is enough data to figure out doubling time. Should give you a tough idea to the time to threshold
I think all countries are going to see a "second wave" it's just we are all on slightly different timelines.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. Greece requires a Cv19 test certificate for travellers from some countries e.g. NL. Could be that they add UK. The test has to be less than 72 hours before travel (arrival?) so that is a bit of a stress to book 🙁
Suppose it's possible or likely they could add the UK to the certificate list, makes sense if they're already doing it for some countries.
Add to that, the stress if you have the virus........... no holiday and probably no insurance cover if you booked recently
Holidays sound stressful.
That's why you need a staycation afterwards to get over one.
That’s why you need a staycation afterwards to get over one.
Or "quarantine", as the government are calling it.
lol!
it's annoying me that what should be a much needed relaxation break it's stressing me out...
I'm normally good at controlling stress, but me and the kids have had a tough year and really need this!
DrP
I can't see how heading to Greece and then checking announcements for a likely quarantine is going to be less stressful than staying at home.
I can’t see how heading to Greece and then checking announcements for a likely quarantine is going to be less stressful than staying at home.
Depends very much where and what your home is
scotroutes... the kids will have more fun... that's the important bit!
DrP
Off to Greece in 2 weeks and having checked on travel insurance (Nationwide Flexplus) we are going as we’ll be covered for medical regardless of what happens (unless FCO advice is no travel whatsoever) in next 2 weeks as we originally booked in January.
We booked the hotel and flights independently so shouldn’t be impacted as easyJet continue to fly. Package holidays could mean curtailment though as they won’t want to continue flying.
off to crete saturday, fingers (and everything else) crossed......
I landed back from Greece yesterday, sailing I. the Ionian. The Greek cases are being generated by local millennials giving up and going clubbing, rather than tourism. It is (and felt) far safer than the UK.
In terms of mental health, I found it a real lift. Being under threat of redundancy since March, not furloughed butt stood down on half pay it was lovely to have a week of not thinking about it.
Easyjet are cancelling flights to Greece from Newcastle (and likely Stansted and Southend)
All due to them closing the "hubs" at these airports. People on a FB group I'm in, have been reporting cancelled flights since the weekend, having being given the "operational reasons" excuse
it was lovely to have a week of not thinking about
Thats whats its all about. Despite a 4hr drive weve enjoyed a walk on a 24 degree Norfolk coast with the kids, and am currently sitting in a lit and heated outdoor social area with a drink or three. The kids reactions to getting away are worth every penny.
Coffee, archery, segway and a decent evening show tomorrow to look forward too. #staycation (lol)
Just for you Kryton
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