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Seems as if there is a general air of despair anongst the middle classes, go to any supermarket or shop, where are all the customers, the roads are quiet after 18.30, people arent spending money, most of the shops you go into, the staff are either indifferent to you or jump on you, theres some good bargains to be had if you ask.
Everyone seems concerned about whats going to be cut, not can we afford to keep it running, so some jobs will have to go, but so did a lot in British Industry, Steel, Coal, Ship Building, the Car Industry, the Chemicla Industry, all very labour intensive with highly skilled people, most replaced with large shopping centres and the minimum wage,with litle career progression or skill transfer.
Sadly we have the Councils bleating on about how they want repair the roads or look after the elderley (they have a statutory duty in law to do so),just to scare the public to make them think the con- dems are worse than Labour,bit later now, but a lot voted them in.
Your views on the above.
Your imagining it.
Your views on the above.
Poor grammar and spelling.
Incoherent.
The supermarkets are still packed. I was chatting to a couple of sainsburys managers who were saying how well their stores were doing.
It's far too early to tell if the conlibs are going to be worse than newlab.
I work in the defence industry at bae and things aren't looking too good. Eurofighter won't last us much longer and if the government don't buy jsf then we are screwed.
Car dealer I was the other weekend said that their sales aren't showing too many signs of people holding on to their cash.
My views on the above = poor quality troll.
I thought we were all meant to be spending like there's no tomorrow before the VAT goes up? I'm so confused!
Seems as if i read a different set of news on the computer and in the newspapers, along with all the places and cucstomers i go to.
Perhaps its due to not haveing my head so buried in the sand like some unionists.
VAT going up, When
Perhaps its due to not haveing my head so buried in the sand like some unionists.
Quality. Unlike your first posting.
It'll be ok.
You're in liverpool aren't you?
project - MemberPerhaps its due to not haveing my head so buried in the sand like some unionists.
project - MemberVAT going up, When
Beautiful.
You didn't read in the newspapers that VAT is being increased. I pity your customers.
Have you considered tourist season is all but at an end, nights are getting cooler and it's dark earlier. All these have a big impact on what people do in an evening and reduce passing trade.
Unionists? Like the conservative and unionist party? Or the ulster unionists?
Unionists? Like the conservative and unionist party? Or the ulster unionists?
I think he means the Protestants at the Labour Party Conference.
Had Labour won, they'd be putting vat up to 20% anyway, both Gordon Brown and Alastair Darling acknowledged that they need to raise taxes AND cut spending in order to deal with the budget deficit.
The car park in Sainburys here was gridlocked on Saturday - we didn't move for 30 mins
I've only ever seen it like that at Christmas, crazy it was
Had Labour won, they'd be putting vat up to 20% anyway...
Well they kept quiet about that.
When did they tell you PJM1974 ?
The car park in Sainburys here was gridlocked on Saturday - we didn't move for 30 mins
Mark my words.......this time next year, no one will be doing their weekly shopping.
Labourt would have put tax up indeed - hopefully not on Vat as that is regressive but on income which is progressive. Taht is what they told us anyway
Mark my words.......this time next year, no one will be doing their weekly shopping.
You are Cressers and I claim my £5.
DOOOMED! DOOOOOOOMED!
So, Ernest, why is it that no one will be shopping next year then? Do tell....
unionnists like members of a union isntit.
Shortened down to unionists, please try to keep up with us under 50 riders please.
unionnists like members of a union isntit.Shortened down to unionists,
So unionists is unionnists shortened down ?
Well that makes perfect sense now.
So, Ernest, why is it that no one will be shopping next year then? Do tell....
Because when the cuts bite, no one will be able to afford supermarket shopping anymore.
The reason supermarkets are still packed, is proof that everything is just fine right now.
The only reason people will be going to supermarkets in a year's time, will be to take stuff back.
The shelves will be crammed with produce, as customers are forced to re-stack them.
It's going to be grim 😐
Channel 4 at the mo 🙂
I'm settling in for a long period of unemployment, been 6 months now and gonna get a whole lot worse. Fat lot of good my masters degree did me....
Is Project pissed? Or just a tool?
Because when the cuts bite, no one will be able to afford supermarket shopping anymore.
What a steaming pile of bull's excrement, Ernie. Even by your standards.
LOL !
[i]Your views on the above.[/i]
You are a 100%, 24 carat, solid gold loon. 😉
I'm in the civil service.
Numbers in our area have halved in the 5 years I've been there as changes in legislation have removed most of our work (though are actually costing HM Treasury more than the old system)
More work is dropping off, so more of our jobs will go. The redundancy terms have been reduced (in my case by 2/3 already) so there is no one left who would voluntarily leave.
And there is no budget in place to pay even the legal minimum redundancy terms.
Going to be an interesting few years.
And - fwiw - having worked in the public and private sectors, there is a lot of scope to cut staff/waste without directly affecting front line delivery of the key services. Just needs the civil service/local government and the unions to stop posturing and prioritise.
And - fwiw - having worked in the public and private sectors, there is a lot of scope to cut staff/waste without directly affecting front line delivery of the key services.
No there isn't. TJ has said so. TJ has spoken. TJ spake that any cuts would mean we would ALL DIE! DIE I TELL YOU! WE WOULD DIE!
Therefore there is no scope at all for any public sector cuts. Not at all.
TJ is currently screaming and crying at the Channel 4 Programe on now.
And I've been busy reversing the polarity on my kitchen extractor fan so that it blows air in. When the cuts bite, I won't be able to afford to waste air.
Speculating on oxygen futures. It's the capitalist dream.
Ernie by revering the polarity of your kitchen fan, you may well cause the blade to fly off, as some are made to run on extract only, clockwise.
please try to keep up with us under 5 riders please.
fixed it
I keep hearing how the coalition are cutting too hard, too swiftly.
Did I miss the announcement, or is it next month that we'll actually find out?
BTW, my neighbour, a high flying in pharmaceuticals expert who lead trials on new drugs was laid of by Glaxo Smithkline just before the election. He lost his job due to downturn in the business due to the recession and because of punitive taxes imposed on business by the last administration. When Glaxo and Smithkline Beecham merged, there was a degree of replication. Because of this, the firm decided to shut his department.
His skills are rare and so are the global number of jobs at his level. After a long period of uncertainty, he took a job in Singapore. He left the UK in late August with his wife who is also a pharmaceuticals professional and his three exceptionally gifted kids.
Proper brain drain is that!
SB, spending review is next month, if you want to read a ringing endorsement of the Coalition economic policy you could always read the IMF report, rather than the witterings of TJ etc.
He left the UK in late August with his wife who is also a pharmaceuticals professional and his three exceptionally gifted kids.
Hadn't he heard that the Tories were back in ?
Well they kept quiet about that.When did they tell you PJM1974 ?
Soure - BBC:
[i]Amid reported wrangling between No 10 and the Treasury, Lord Mandelson suggested in his memoir that Mr Brown rejected a proposal from the chancellor to raise VAT while Mr Darling quashed calls for any future VAT rises to be ruled out. (BBC)[/i]
Source - London Evening Standard:
[i]Former chancellor Alistair Darling has admitted that he wanted to raise VAT to bring down Britain's budget deficit.
Former business secretary Lord Mandelson claimed in his memoirs that Mr Darling planned the move last year but was vetoed by Gordon Brown.
The now-shadow chancellor told BBC's Andrew Marr Show: "It's no secret, I said at the time and since Peter has actually spelt out in gory detail, I'm not going to deny what was patently true."[/i]
the IMF said things were on the mend even though the coalition's fiscal tightening plan would knock growth in the short term and that a double-dip recession could not be completely ruled out."The plan greatly reduces the risk of a costly loss of confidence in public finances and supports a balanced recovery," the IMF report, known as an Article IV consultation, said.
"Fiscal tightening will dampen short-term growth but not stop it as other sectors of the economy emerge as drivers of recovery, supported by continued monetary stimulus.......
However, downside risks are also sizeable, given the continued fragility of confidence, still-strained balance sheets among households and banks, signs of renewed housing market weakness, and the possibility that headwinds from fiscal consolidation could turn out to be more powerful than expected,"
Reads more that they accept it is risky but they think it will work due to "other sectors" and "monetary stimulus" [banks lending more money] driving the economy and negating the cuts. Time will tell. I think it is unlikely.
Lord Mandelson suggested ............Mr Darling quashed calls for any future VAT rises to be ruled out
Ah well ......... if Mandy said it (or is it "suggested" ?) what more reliable source could there be ?
The Times however, [i]suggests[/i] otherwise......
[url= http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/budget/article7070153.ece ]Alistair Darling rules out VAT rise[/url]
EDIT : Your edited post contains the following : [i]but was vetoed by Gordon Brown[/i].... making it abundantly clear that VAT would [i]not[/i] have gone up if Labour had remained in power.
Next !
some quality trolling on this thread ernie_lynch! 🙂 give yourself a gold star!
When Glaxo and Smithkline Beecham merged, there was a degree of replication. Because of this, the firm decided to shut his department.
He lost his job due to downturn in the business due to the recession and because of punitive taxes imposed on business by the last administration.
spongeblob in desperate attempt at making the facts fit the ideology shocker
I would never suggest that the policy is not without risk, I have said that on here. I just think it is the better risk to take. It is an unusually positive endorsement, there are few caveats, for the IMF - well it is according to Stephanie Flanders who is normally pretty straight down the line - see [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/stephanieflanders/ ]here.[/url]
ernie: Darling admitted as such himself. If we're going to play tit for tat then[url= http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7025833.ece ]here[/url]
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that a government fighting for survival at the polls might actually [i]mislead[/i] in order to allay public anxiety over future unpopular policy chances is it?
It worked for Thatcher and Major, who both scooped surprise wins in 1987 and 1992 respectively and who later reneged on election promises.
I'm off to bed. I've a cold to sleep off before I go riding tomorrow.
ernie: Darling admitted as such himself.
Yes PJM, but as you yourself pointed out, it was "vetoed by Gordon Brown". Therefore VAT would [b]not[/b] have gone up if Labour had remained in government.
@ el_boufador ...... I don't know what you mean .......... *whistles*
ernie_lynch - MemberYes PJM, but as you yourself pointed out, it was "vetoed by Gordon Brown". Therefore VAT would not have gone up if Labour had remained in government.
Assuming that Gordon Brown would still have had a say.....
she concludes
So yes, the IMF is giving Mr Osborne higher marks than Mr Darling. But it had never suggested that he was sending the UK over a cliff.
I agree it is a better report but it still seems an act of faith in other sectors of the economy to rescue us. They dont guarantee it will work so only time will tell.
Assuming that Gordon Brown would still have had a say.....
Well since he got to chose who was chancellor, I would have said "yes".
Or are you suggesting that Gordon Brown would have been punished for winning the general election, and would have been given the sack ?
Just two questions:
- What do the IMF know about anything - they hardly have a glowing track record at this complicated economics stuff;
- If Ernie's fan is AC, does reversing the polarity actually change anything?
Stil a bit qiuiet, and the reason Sainsburys may have beeen so full is all the old duffers couldnt negotiate themselves out of the car park and its the end of the month when most salaried staff go shopping.