Funny how a load of people come across all tough and shouty slagging people off for having tattoos yet no one's ever said that to my face.
Although to be fair, that wouldn't bother me either.
1. But this is a forum, its a joke/silly place to banter and share ideas.
2. If you were a friend of mine I'd rip into you royally jokingly if I thought there was even a shard of daftness about it. Its what blokes DO.
3. If you asked me 'what do you honestly think'- you'd get the answer to my quoted text. If you said 'what do you think'/in a work environment and I didn't like it I'd reply 'looks like it'd have hurt'?
I imagine you've heard that coded-line a fair few times.
Tattoo's are highly personal things. One thing I DONT like are the fashion tattoos (90's was barbed-wire or a styled long elongated-thing on base of spine) 00's is 'stars' or the elongated-thing this time on feet.
Really really smacks of 'I didn't know what I'd want/have no imagination whilst flicking through the tattoo studio's book when the bloke said 'hey this is quite popular at the moment'
My favourite is Justin Hawkin's flames coming out of his groin.
OP - I like that, a lot.
IMHO, the origins of it are irrelevant & all that matters is the personal relevance to you.
In the recent nice weather I was able to wear short sleeves and display my own individuality ....by being one of the seemingly few people who hadn't had ink put into their skin. It seems to be very popular at the moment.
I can appreciate the artistry and that people are entitled to have them, but I just cannot see any reason why I (or anybody else) would want to mark myself with a permanent image, especially a large one like a full sleeve or a visible on my neck. I can't imagine that I wouldn't regret it in a few years' time.
People have told me that inks are better these days (-how do they know what a 20 year tattoo will look like on them?) but there are a lot of old men with blurred, faded tattoos (There are going to be a lot of older women like that -with very stretched art- in 20 years time)
i like humour in them to be honest-- too many are earnest/serious --but all art is good---
but there are a lot of old men with blurred, faded tattoos
I've seen quite a few inked folk with the telltale white-emulsion of sunblock covering their art recently. I think the blurring and fading comes from over exposure to UV from sunlight. If the inks are better and people are using sunblock more then the blurring and fading should be significantly less...
...can't do that much about the stretching though. Unless botox, collagen injections and eating a proper diet are on your agenda!
Yes ink is better and more advanced but UV will still damage.
I'm using Bepanthen 4 times a day during the healing process then once healed, if I do expose it to the sun then factor 50 is recommended.
There's some really nasty people on here who clearly are unable to grasp that they really do not need to comment if something displeases them. 😐
Mulletus - it's a lovely drawing and you're obviously happy with it, that is all that matters. Ignore the muppets.
My daughter now has 4 and don't think she'll stop at that!
I don't hate them, I'm just mystified about why people would want one!
Especially as every (wo)man and his dog now seems to have them.
People don't generally keep the same clothes, hairstyle, home decoration, car etc. for their whole lives, why do it to your body?
ve seen quite a few inked folk with the telltale white-emulsion of sunblock covering their art recently. I think the blurring and fading comes from over exposure to UV from sunlight. If the inks are better and people are using sunblock more then the blurring and fading should be significantly less...
If you can't display your body art to the public in the great outdoors, then that's surely another reason not to have one?
If somebody can come up with a good temporary tattoo system they'll make a fortune and good luck to them.
Inventors of good removal technology will also make a fortune from middle-aged women who thought it was a good idea to have a rose tattoo covering their full leg (as I saw the other day) or neck when they were 18.
...can't do that much about the stretching though. Unless botox, collagen injections and eating a proper diet are on your agenda!
A proper diet and a bit of exercise wouldn't do many British people much harm, not sure about the cosmetic surgery route....
It's all a bit "faux" isn't it?
There was a guy I used see at the pool who had [i]"Notts miners on strike 84-85"[/i] on his arm who obviously had a [b]real[/b] reason to get tattooed.
Do it properly:
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Don't judge me.
Especially as every (wo)man and his dog now seems to have them.
ok aristotle-- show us your dog tattoos'-- am intrigued !
Pedigree dogs, obviously
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I just google image searched 'tattoo'd dogs'. Gosh.
mine is a heinz job-- but i'm not going to shave her back and ink some design on , might attract the wrong sort of dog.. 😉
waswaswas=-- i suppose its like anything--if you can think about it , someone has done it, or tried-- and its on the 'net !-- do you think there is a consent issue with da hounds ?
There's some really nasty people on here who clearly are unable to grasp that they really do not need to comment if something displeases them.
I wouldn't say nasty. If you post on a public forum, you have to expect to get some 'not overly positive' posts....
When I was in my early 20s, I seriously considered having this as a tattoo:
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I'm so glad common sense prevailed!
--but all art is good---
No. No it isn't.
your Koi looks a bit.. well... coy.
I like it. Amazed how little time it takes to get done.
I'd like another tattoo, something on my leg, but my wife doesn't like them.
footflaps - Member
There's some really nasty people on here who clearly are unable to grasp that they really do not need to comment if something displeases them.
I wouldn't say nasty. If you post on a public forum, you have to expect to get some 'not overly positive' posts....
Agrees with Footflaps. If you want someone to blow smoke up your arse at every turn, go ask your mum.
I've never understood the mentality of people who wade into threads that they know they don't care about, just to rag on people who do. It's like me going into a discussion about Manchester United's latest signing going "well, football, it's shit isn't it, WGAF?", or the iPhone / Linux evangelists on an Android / Windows question (and vice versa of course).
Healthy debate is one thing, actively and aggressively targeting individuals is another. Plus the subject is paramount. On a topic which was say "should I get a tattoo" then people voicing negative opinions of tattoos in general is wholly justified; that's healthy, constructive debate. On a thread saying "hey, who wants to see my new tattoo" then rolling in having a right pop at someone because you don't happen to like tattoos [i]at all[/i] is bang out of order. Why would you even read the thread? The only time I find myself in threads I have no interest is when it's not clear from the title what it's about (cf. the current "Little Urm" thread), and once I've sussed that there's nothing here for me I shuffle off.
People are weird.
ALL HAIL COUGAR.
upholder of the TRUTH!
:salutes:
If you post on a public forum, you have to expect to get some 'not overly positive' posts....
I don't think so. Why is it necessary? The only answer is that some people are trying to offend others for kicks. That's bang out of order online or not.
I've never understood the mentality of people who wade into threads that they know they don't care about, just to rag on people who do. It's like me going into a discussion about Manchester United's latest signing going "well, football, it's shit isn't it, WGAF?", or the iPhone / Linux evangelists on an Android / Windows question (and vice versa of course).Healthy debate is one thing, actively and aggressively targeting individuals is another. Plus the subject is paramount. On a topic which was say "should I get a tattoo" then people voicing negative opinions of tattoos in general is wholly justified; that's healthy, constructive debate. On a thread saying "hey, who wants to see my new tattoo" then rolling in having a right pop at someone because you don't happen to like tattoos at all is bang out of order. Why would you even read the thread? The only time I find myself in threads I have no interest is when it's not clear from the title what it's about (cf. the current "Little Urm" thread), and once I've sussed that there's nothing here for me I shuffle off.
People are weird.
I agree with that (to an extent), except that by posting on a public forum you can't expect everyone to agree with you. And when people have posted to say they don't particularly like tats they have been equally shot down by pro-tat posters. And what happens when someone likes tats but doesn't like his tat? Are they not allowed to say either? Or can only respond by saying how wonderful it is?
FWIW, I think that it looks nice as far as tats go (certainly better than most).
It even says "Haters Look Away" in the bloody subject.
Maybe he should've changed the "Haters" to something more descriptive.
(Sorry, this is my only contribution to the thread!)
I can't imagine that I wouldn't regret it in a few years' time.
That should also tell you something about the variety of approaches to life... and yours...
xcept that by posting on a public forum you can't expect everyone to agree with you.
Of course, but you don't have to put finger to keyboard to slag him off do you? Just say nothing! It's easier!
by posting on a public forum you can't expect everyone to agree with you.
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what happens when someone likes tats but doesn't like his tat?
Sure. See [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/got-my-first-tattoo-today-haters-look-away/page/2#post-5061881 ]my initial post[/url] on this thread and then come back to me.
So you win the internets?
If you stick a picture of anything up on a public forum, you're basically asking for opinions, good and bad, favourable and less so.
What I really don't get is that anyone is even remotely surprised that not all posts are 100% enthusiastic (that's what Mums are for when you're under 10).
You're missing my point, I think.
Aristotle - Member
I don't hate them, I'm just mystified about why people would want one!Especially as every (wo)man and his dog now seems to have them.
People don't generally keep the same clothes, hairstyle, home decoration, car etc. for their whole lives, why do it to your body?
If you can't display your body art to the public in the great outdoors, then that's surely another reason not to have one?
I'll answer the points one at a time from my point of view:
I'm mystified by plenty of things....the skinny jeans trend, the jeans hanging off the arse trend, the floppy hair trend, 29ers, people who willingly drive at less than the speed limit, dubstep, British youth who talk with a faux caribbean accent, the popularity of Apple products....all completely mystifying and nonsensical to me, we all have things we like and things we dont like....i like tattoos.
You're right, the world and his wife seems to have a tattoo these days....the popularity of tattoos means even more people will get them as they become more socially acceptable....i've never once heard anybody say they are getting a tattoo because they are rebellious or they want to be seen as different....to do so would see that individual laughed out of the shop....it would be akin to standing in your LBS and stating that the reason for purchasing your latest bike is to appear cooler, edgy or unique....quite rightly everybody in there would think you are a pillock.
If something becomes popular should it be left alone?....what about cycling?....everybody and his dog seems to be out on a bike in good weather these days....what was your point again?
Yes they are permanent and fashions change, as you said not everybody keeps the same clothes, car, hairstyle etc for their entire lives....that said i shaved my hair off 15 years ago and have no intention of growing it back again....with tattoos classic designs work best, that way they dont go out of fashion....having the face of some one-hit-wonder tattooed on your arm will become embarrassing over time.
Tattoos themselves have been around long enough that they are no longer a fashion, people either have them or they dont....what has changed are social attitudes towards them, the uniform policy at my work when i joined in 2000 explicitly banned visible tattoos, it has since been amended and we have several younger members of staff with visible tattoos.
Not everybody wants to parade their tattoo around, some people like tattoos but are not an extrovert personality and prefer to keep them under wraps until they are around family and friends....other people get them in hidden areas for similar reasons, they can wear normal clothes and it looks like they dont have a tattoo but around somebody they feel close to and comfortable with they are happy to expose a more intimate area of their body, in this case it would be a personal thing.
Deviant speaks sense ^^^^
Especially here...
everybody and his dog seems to be out on a bike in good weather these days....
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If you stick a picture of anything up on a public forum, you're basically asking for opinions, good and bad, favourable and less so.
He specifically asked for people who don't like tattoos to read the thread, and yet they did, and posted negative opinions that they knew he didn't want.
Why on earth..?
Quite.
Compare the following reactions:
"Check out Fido! (new puppy content)."
1) Aww bless, he's adorable.
2) Personally I'm not keen on that breed, but each to their own. Happy new dog.
3) Great, another ill-controlled, yappy shitting machine which will no doubt clogging up all the trails in the near future. I can't stand dogs, all dog owners are mental.
Do I really need to spell out the difference between why one of these is an acceptable negative comment and why one of them isn't?
Yeah, I can't bear cutesy replies either.
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It's the internet - you only have to look at a random video on Youtube and check out the comments to see that people who would, in the past, have kept their mouths shut, will use a keyboard to spout any old crap.
Why on earth..?
Because in the words of Adam Hills "People are dicks! Now can everyone stop being dicks please."
Some people just like the sound of their own voice, some people like to re-read their witty and scathing comments over and over and probably have a little sex wee when they do. This is the only reason I can think why anyone would post on a topic knowing it would cause contention. In other words, Trololol.
I remember the first time I posted a photograph on here. Shock and awe response and I got all upset 😕
I remember the first time I posted a photograph on here.
Yes, some people out there really are total bar ends, DS. 😉
Would any of the haterz actually say that in real life to the person concerned?
Keyboard warriors.
Pathetic.
Anyway. Shall we go back to discussing the OP's tattoo, or shall I close the file now that the trolls have managed to cause it to derail completely?
I would C_G, but then i've known him 30 years 😀
Most important question is what you having done next?
Hello rusty, how you doing? 🙂 Seriously considering having eyebrows tattooed cos I lost all mine due to this bloomin' illness.
I'm good C_G, you? You still living down there with the sheep botherers?
Right, I've generally sat back and let it evolve.
Yes, I realise if I am going to post a photo up then regardless of title thread, I know there will be idiots that come on here with thier opinions, which of course they are intitled to and fair enough, as said this is the internet and open to the masses. I didn't post it to get sycophantic replies. I posted it because I know some like tattoos.
We know that loddrik hates tattoos, he came on said his small piece and dissapeared. That's fine, know problem and fair play to him for staying out of this. 🙂 Others have given negative comments based on tattos in general, that's fine too. There was one post that didn't sit well with me as to me it was borderline character assination, yet he doesn't know me. That to me is just nasty and not needed in any thread.
Well, I like it.
A beautiful design, well executed.
Nice one.
Tatts like that one are steering me more and more toward seriously considering one.
one q: is the bruising from the tattoo process or just coincidental?
From the tattoo. Mainly from when the skin when it was pulled tight.
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rusty - living with the relics more like. 🙂 You've switched to the dark side yes?
Mulletus - it's one thing people taking the pee for posting a pic of a bike with a scruffy garden but unfortunately some people are lacking in self-awareness and think it's OK or clever to be rude. 😐
Nice piece of work OP!
Funny how a load of people come across all tough and shouty slagging people off for having tattoos yet no one's ever said that to my face. Although to be fair, that wouldn't bother me either
Your tats are naff, you need to push a higher gear on your ss, and your post ride personal hygiene leaves a lot to be desired....
There....
DrP
(actually, the bit about the tats is the only lie there-I quite like your work! Wouldn't ever get it done myself, but enjoy yours!)
I've only seen the first post
Anyone mentioned that it look like a penis? You sir have a giant fishy penis on your arm for life
DrP can't handle the manliness of a builders bum in the face post ride, poor lad 😉
C_G worse than the darkside, i've turned into a runner! ...who only owns bikes with drop handlebars and doesn't even own an MTB anymore.
Blimey Houns, if your penis looks like that can we have a thread about it?!
Would any of the haterz actually say that in real life to the person concerned?
What? Would someone say 'I don't like tattoos myself, I am not comfortable with marking myself for life' to someone with a tattoo? Well if I was asked my opinion on a tattoo 'in real life in person' then yes I would. Absolutely.
I would then probably witter on about how much I wanted one as a teenager (of Eddie - the mascot for Iron Maiden). Eventually very nearly having one done for my 30th birthday then slowly deciding that tattoos weren't for me.
By then I am sure the tattooed person would have walked away bored and gone to talk to someone more interesting than me.
My penis is more like a shy whelk not a koi
It is rather phalic
Fishy c&ck
*edit*
The wave things even look like pubes
Well if I was asked my opinion on a tattoo 'in real life in person' then yes I would. Absolutely.
What about if you weren't asked, as in this case?
If didn't want opinions then why post the thread to begin with?
DezB - Member
It's the internet - you only have to look at a random video on Youtube and check out the comments to see that people who would, in the past, have kept their mouths shut, will use a keyboard to spout any old crap.
I go to the JLS and George Michaels videos just for a bit of love these days. Too much aggression here. 🙁
If didn't want opinions then why post the thread to begin with?
To share with other people who might appreciate it?
What about if you weren't asked, as in this case?
Posting on a public forum, is asking everyone on the entire internet for their opinion. The fact you put "please can my mum reply only" or similar is completely irrelevant, on the same level as expecting world peace or everyone to like your favourite band etc etc.....
looks good but the eye doesn't look finished
is it a baby robin?
looks good but the eye doesn't look finished
That's because it's not. Still another 4 hours work needed.
Well if I was asked my opinion on a tattoo 'in real life in person' then yes I would. Absolutely.
What about if you weren't asked, as in this case?
Because it is a chat forum. People talk. If he didn't want 'haters' to contribute then he shouldn't have posted on a public forum. Especially one not at all connected to tattoos.
And anyway, I am not a hater (and I do like some tats, I have even designed one for a friend). But it is just plain silly to expect people not to contribute just because he 'asked' them not to.
Tattoo threads always go this way, you are tempting fate by saying haters look away.
Its like a Jones thread, all the haters will pop in anyway
Its the equivalent of me standing up in the office, saying look at me in my speedos, but don't look if you're offended. It would be stupid to presume that people who would be offended wouldn't look, and also that they then wouldn't express their revulsion.
If you just want your ego massaged then stick to tattoo forums maybe?
Its the equivalent of me standing up in the office, saying look at me in my speedos, but don't look if you're offended.
Except, it's not. It's the equivalent of going "I've got some new speedos, if anyone wants to see them then I'll be next door," then people coming into that room and complaining that they hate speedos. How many "look at my new bike" and "show me your bike" threads do we have on here? There's a new one every day.
It's not about a difference of opinion. It's about a) going out of your way to disrupt a discussion that you've no interest in, and b) treating a fellow human being like pondlife. The former is tedious, and the latter is going to net you a ban.
So houns is banned? bet he's already on BM bragging:)
BM?
Banned? No, just a telling off from the sense of humour police 😛
Lols @ pondlife/Koi thing
I like tattoos, but if I see one like a penis I shall say so
The haters part of the title was meant tounge in cheek.
djglover, why are you assuming I need my ego massaged? Like I said, all opinions are fine, just some comments are plain nasty and to me that's not acceptable in any circumstance.
Houns, that comment was assusing. 😀
Just assuming based on my own experience and your OP
If I post pictures of my new bike, I am looking for positive afirmation of my choice from a community, I have done this in the past. I would call it ego massage, nowt wrong with that, it makes us feel good afterall..
If ego massage upsets you, I can use the other phrase!
Nah, doesn't upset me!
I quite like tattoos and I quite like the OP's very large picture of a fish also.
I do not understand why the fact that lots of people have tattoos means that the massively different images portrayed are not distinct and interesting. The sarky comment [i]"gosh, a photograph. How original. You do realise everyone is taking them these days"[/i] would be astoundingly silly.
🙂
Rather like it, and can only guess at your reasons. And I like the more artistic ones previously posted.
But the big question is... Will it help you go faster in Cat 3?, or does the fish sap your race strength 😉
I don't think that David Beckham was half the player he was before he got inked.
Love it!
But then I'm one of the 'unoriginal' people with a big fish tattooed on his arm too. And I'm not Japanese either.
Dunno what I was thinking really, expect maybe that I love Japanese tattoo art and I'd like to have some of my own. But that's obviously not a good enough reason...
🙂
Mulletus Maximus - Member
As in true STW style the the self obsessed
Oh the indelible ironing!
It is very good work. Have always been tat-curious but would need to be something very special for me to get one.
Viking chick with her baps out, or similar, for instance. Back piece.
I don't generally like tats, but I think that one is a really lovely piece of art.
Strange thing to say, but I think it probably would be diminished in impact by having lots more elsewhere. But ink afficionados will disagree.
Well I like it .
If your going to get one , get one done properly. No messing about with some little thing in a place where no -one will ever see it ( unless you are a girl )
I really like the other Koi picture with a deeep red hue , nice .