Seems it was a JSO insider who leaked the zoom call to The Sun.
"The story had begun almost two years ago when a concerned whistleblower from JSO contacted me, prompted by a genuine fear that lives were at stake.Arrangements were made for me to infiltrate a closely guarded JSO meeting at which I listened in amazement and horror as plans were set out to bring the M25 to a halt.
""The plan is to block the M25 between now and 2023.“It’ll be daily and go on for the rest of the year.”"
Seems Hallam enjoys jail anyway according to the article.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29351268/undercover-just-stop-oil-plot-m25/
Nobody will be jailed for standing somewhere holding a placard. This was a plan for prolonged huge disruption. Sentences well deserved.
No. I mean the letter-bombs.
Much less likely imo
Sentences well deserved.
Do you think the Colston protest in Bristol was legitimate?
Read the Guardian article linked above, an NHS GP was jailed for holding a placard outside an oil terminal.
The Sun ? Not a exactly credible and unbiased source.
Nobody will be jailed for standing somewhere holding a placard.
Under this law they can be if they inconvenience anyone in the slightest. Peaceful protest is now banned in the UK
What an odius thread :-(. Some sad colours being flown here 🙁
I think another sabbatical is in order, nothing changes here
RT
Ps might post a few tractors later 😉
In other news, leaving someone lying in the road appears to be relatively OK even if having a zoom convo about blocking one isn't.
Ps might post a few tractors later 😉
Lock 'em up!
Sentences well deserved.
Just because you keep repeating it doesn't mean it's true.
How would you go about encouraging the public and government to realise that climate change is a serious problem that they're a part of and start doing something about it?
So was that all the good news you had in mind irc or is there more?
There must be more surely?
Just because you keep repeating it doesn’t mean it’s true.
Doubling down is a classic response when limits of comprehension have been reached...
How about no droughts in India for the foreseeable future?
https://www.economist.com/asia/2024/07/18/climate-change-is-making-the-monsoon-more-dangerous
I guess @irc good news can be filed in the same bin as brexit benefits and paying multi-million pound bonuses to retain ‘talent’
No. I mean the letter-bombs.
I wouldn’t even mention that, the second they start violence they’ll be on the terrorist organisation list, that’s a whole different ball game to what’s happening now.
The point is it wasn’t legitimate protest.
1 - they weren't convicted of protesting
2 - peaceful protest is completely 100% legitimate in a functional democracy.
Our friend Irc is a piston heads regular and has enjoyed setting the cat amongst the pigeons as he said so on that forum.
Coming from that position you are bound to find it good news.
Maybe Irc should return under his bridge ?
2 – peaceful protest is completely 100% legitimate in a functional democracy.
Covered by the ECHR - that pesky thing that the last government wanted to withdraw from to bring us more into line with, er, Russia and Belarus.
Serious question… Does anyone know where they’ll serve their sentences?
They’re not exactly terrorists, so will it be some Cat C open prison or will they get shoved in somewhere terrifying with all the hard cases?
I’d imagine that’s as much of an issue as the length of their sentences
IIRC you normally start in a general prison like Strangeways or Pentonville. ( cat B?? ) After a part of your sentence you may be eligible for cat C or D YOu may have more than one catergory in each prison complex
Does anyone know where they’ll serve their sentences?
Wherever they are sent you can be sure that it will be nourishment not punishment!
They'll even get Christmas pudding at Christmas, bastards
If this was the organisers behind the ‘blade runners’ getting five years after ‘peacefully protesting’ by for cutting down hundreds of ULEZ cameras, people here would be cheering in unison.
Saw a Twitter thread about other sentances the same judge has handed out.
Deliberately crashing a car into the gates of Downing Street and possessing indecent images of children: suspended sentence
On-duty police officer having sex in a patrol car with a vulnerable woman who he’d offered to drive home after she was ejected from a nightclub: suspended sentence
Failures contributing to the spread of a fire in which two women died: £40,000 fine
Charging refugees for legal work despite having been struck off: £2858 fine
Claiming benefits while making money as the creator of Rastamouse: community service - thanks in part to an intervention by Hehir’s eight year-old daughter
If this was the organisers behind the ‘blade runners’ getting five years after ‘peacefully protesting’ by for cutting down hundreds of ULEZ cameras, people here would be cheering in unison.
That's an act of wilful vandalism - this was peaceful protest.
Have any "blade runners" received prison sentances?
You have to be an absolute boomer to celebrate this verdict
That’s an act of wilful vandalism – this was peaceful protest.
Given that JSO have done various acts including spraying paint on Stonehenge, smashing windows. damaging aircraft and vandalising artworks under the banner of ‘peaceful protest’, why, exactly, do you think that cutting down ULEZ cameras doesn’t quality?
and applied equally to all by an independent judiciary
if any of us find ourselves in a court of law, we are all subject to the same proceedings and judgements, which we will be made well aware of
We’re really not. Poor people tend to have a worse defence than rich ones. Politics and the judiciary are separate in name only. The M25 is blocked lots of times for a plethora of reasons. The rail strikes caused more inconvenience to your average working stiff over the last couple of years. Shall we take conductors and train drivers to court? Just tell them that being part of a union is no longer an acceptable defence. Much more of a ****ing nuisance than what the JSO folk did.
For what it’s worth I don’t agree with their tactics but the sentences handed down weren’t for the crimes committed. They were purely political. Making an example of people. I hope it leads to larger scale, more disruptive protests. As others have stated, if things continue as they are we may as well say bollocks to relatively harmless protests and go straight for civil unrest.
Given that JSO have done various acts including spraying paint on Stonehenge,
Wrong. It was harmless biodegradable powder
Good. 'cking nutters. Should be in the funny farm.
I dunno blokeuptheroad. These millennials are a bit much. back in my day.........
Given that JSO have done various acts including spraying paint on Stonehenge, smashing windows. damaging aircraft and vandalising artworks under the banner of ‘peaceful protest’, why, exactly, do you think that cutting down ULEZ cameras doesn’t quality?
Oh, hello Whataboutery. The topic at hand is people receiving lengthy custodial sentences for discussing legitimate protest. Famously, the "paint" they use is hoovered away in seconds - got no problem with any of them receiving realistic sentences where criminal damage is caused.
kevog
Free MemberGiven that JSO have done various acts including spraying paint on Stonehenge, smashing windows. damaging aircraft and vandalising artworks under the banner of ‘peaceful protest’, why, exactly, do you think that cutting down ULEZ cameras doesn’t quality?
Well, first, they have never sprayed paint on stonehenge. But let's not worry about the facts here, because what actually matters is that this court case was nothing to do with any of that, it was for discussing a peaceful, inconvenient but nondamaging protest. Not even for doing the protest, just for discussing it. So this is some weak-ass whataboutery. "What about these unconnected things?"
Think i said something earlier to the point, but the sad reality is that this was always going to end in a case like this. Extinction Rebellion, Just Stop Oil and others have pushed the peaceful protests for a few years now, as much as there's positives on here, they have had widespread condemnation across the country (and world), which has been played by the politicians.
Again, not picking a side, but i feel this was always going to happen with the way they were going, it has been a confrontation from the start, which is basically their mandate, i'm just glad we haven't seen a serious incident at the protests, yes i know there's been a fair bit of violence, but i'm on about the idiot doing something seriously horrific to protesters.
A few more jailed for blocking the M25.
"Five environmental activists who aimed to "create mass disruption" have been jailed for their role in protests that caused widespread traffic disruption on the M25.
The Just Stop Oil campaigners climbed gantries on the motorway in November 2022, forcing police to stop the traffic, in an attempt to cause gridlock across southern England."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgxqwwev50ko
I'll bet you're opening the Lidl champers tonight
For me it's more about proportionality of sentence... I mean you can batter someone half to death or rape someone and you might be out in 5 years with good behavior...
It's all backwards if you ask me.
theotherjonv
Full Member
as on the Stockport thread, what sentences can the rioters expect, if planning to cause a traffic jam gets five years?
Ive been wondering the same, I'm betting that basically torching city streets and attacking police will get you less time, if any. A mad old world.
