[Closed] Giving Iran a slap

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why is it that we seem to have been at war pretty much since i can remember, yet the only time the uk has actually been attacked was when 4 lads from leeds/bradford blew themselves up on the tube, i think we should nuke the norh east

Excellent, we have far too much cash sloshing about in the public purse, best blow it on something, lets go bombing!!!!

firstly Leeds isnt North East - its the midlands.

Dont they say war is profitable? I think thats your answer.

possible explanation right here....

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Mates who have served in Iraq and the 'stan seem to think it's only a matter of time.
Although as I found out from the BBC that Bin Laden had been topped before they were told out there, their info may not be that reliable.

No, Bradford is beautiful!

Leeds is ok but not as nice as Bradford.

I truly hope that Cameron has the balls to tell the US to go **** themselves. I doubt he has, but I shall continue to hope.

Dear god no! it's a bit like picking a fight with the smallest bloke in the bar (or loosley affiliated group of farmers in the desert) for an easy target, getting you're arse kicked then going back for seconds off his much bigger nuclear armed brother!

Its not going to go off in Iran. They're armed up to the teeth. Its one thing to invade a country who you know for damn sure doesn't have WMD (though you pretend they do). Its another thing altogether going after one that definitely does.

If America goes near Iran, I'm-a-dinner-jacket will immediately level Tel Aviv, The Israelis will promptly nuke Tehran in retaliation, and then the whole middle east will disappear in an enormous mushroom cloud.

Actually.... I was going to conclude that the Americans wouldn't contemplate this, but thinking about it, it'd make the planet a **** of a lot safer for the rest of us!

Leeds is ok but not as nice as Bradford.

Praise doesn't come much higher than that 😉

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Its another thing altogether going after one that definitely does.

We might not have to.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8864696/Benjamin-Netanyahu-seeks-cabinet-support-for-Israeli-strike-on-Iran.html

Good God. Let's pray that there are some in the Israeli government who aren't homicidal maniacs. 😯

I was in Bradford at the weekend. It's a shole with some nice arcitecture. I saw a young asian man wearing a t-shirt saying "we have your country, you can keep your queen"

Leeds isn't much better.

I know one thing for sure, it wasn't in the midlands

Hasnt Bradford already been bombed? Looks that way.

and then the whole middle east will disappear in an enormous mushroom cloud.

That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems

They obviously don't want to play ball!! Israel also seemingly has a palm already hovering over the launch button! I can't see any "nice" outcome to this whatsoever because im sure if the us send a single missile onto Iranian soil they're gonna react big time, and with all they supposedly have or haven't got!!!

I saw a young asian man wearing a t-shirt saying "we have your country, you can keep your queen"

😆

Excellent. Where can I get such a wondrous garment?

That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems

Can't help thinking that as Britain and the USA seem to have caused most of the upheaval and war going on atm, not to mention causing the deaths of possibly millions as a result of their aggressive actions against other nations, that nuking these nations would praps solve an awful lot more problems...

If nukes start getting thrown around in the middle east all our lives will go down hill very quickly, its ridiculous to think that there would be no massive world wide impact.

not to mention causing the deaths of possibly millions as a result of their aggressive actions against other nations,

certainly millions since 1990. No doubt at all

If nukes start getting thrown around in the middle east all our lives will go down hill very quickly, its ridiculous to think that there would be no massive world wide impact.

certainly millions since 1990. No doubt at all

From the realistic figures produced by respected international organisations.

Millions have died in Iraq alone - thats in the two wars and the period of sanctions.

Then there is the many who have died in Afghanistan and now libya

How do you figure that?

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/iraq ]

Finally, they point out that more recent data confirm their findings and even suggest a higher figure. The British polling firm Opinion Research Business (ORB) asked 1,720 Iraqi adults last summer if they had lost family members by violence since 2003; 16% had lost one, and 5% two. Using the 2005 census total of 4,050,597 households in Iraq, this suggests 1,220,580 deaths since the invasion. Accounting for a standard margin of error, ORB says, "We believe the range is a [b]minimum of 733,158 to a maximum of 1,446,063[/b]."

Then you've got stuff like deformities in children born in Iraq as a consequence of the use of depleted uranium tipped missiles and stuff, not to mention the amount of serious injuries and permanent disabilities.

Of course it must also be remembered that hundreds of thousands if not more died as a result of violent action during Saddam's regime, but nowhere near on the same scale, not that it makes it any better.

That would solve hell of a lot of the worlds current problems

No one is going to nuke anyone, and neither will they go to war with Iran imo. 1 they can't afford it, and 2 Iran will fight back.

thats in the two wars and the period of sanctions.

Elf - you forget as well all the victims of disease and those who led shorter lives as a result of the destruction of water supplies and hospitals. child mortality is tripled, life expectancy decreased.

The lancet study found 1.5 million extra deaths up to 1990 -2004 and the child mortality and life expectancy is still much worse than it was under Saddam

bloody septic tanks they cant go s month without startin on someone who the **** is the only country to use atomic bombs "oh the americans, who decides who can cant have bombs the americans they are the worst most hypocrytical country out there

You will need to deduct how many people would have lost lives to violence had the US not invaded.

I should think with several million people turning up to protest against invasion in London (of which I would be one) it would be fairly easy to, uh, implement a "regime change" here in the UK. They couldn't shoot everyone.

Iran must be full of nutters. We should avoid talking to them lest we become mayd as well

God wants us to nuke them, Israel said so.

I should think with several million people turning up to protest against invasion in London (of which I would be one) it would be fairly easy to, uh, implement a "regime change" here in the UK. They couldn't shoot everyone.

Thankfully we've got ways of bringing about regime change in the UK that don't involve anyone getting shot.

Oh yes, the good old democratic process! Thank **** for that, gives me a semi-lob on whenever I think about it.

We should avoid talking to them lest we become mayd as well

[i]Mayd[/i].

pfft, the pathetic posturing of mahmoud deserves a slap

just as soon as the chinese have bailed europe out of its financial mess, the yanks will be sat on their own, twiddling their thumbs and wondering what to do so they look big again.

the only fly in the ointment might be russia, i wouldnt like to guess where they are on this

Making a large part the worlds oil fields radioactive and unusable for god knows how make years would solve the worlds problems how exactly?

Again its all about oil.

2006 Iran created the kish bourse agreement, In doing this they refused to sell oil to any country that wanted to pay in U.s Dollars

By December 2007, Iran reported to have converted all of its oil export payments to non-dollar currencies.

Poor little America is missing out big time, and feels the need to take what it sees as theirs.

The similarities to the gulf war are frightening,

11 mths before the gulf invasion, France, Germany Italy And Greece all agreed to pay MR Hussain in Euro,s

again America could not let this happen. (Que. invasion under the Vail of weapons mass destruction )

They may only be 2 known nuclear Missiles in Iran, but you can bet that if the USA invade or conduct air strikes then at least 1 is aimed at Israel.

Israel on the other hand have many missiles, they will have made this very clear to America.

Im sure if Israel feels its going to be taken out by mr dinnerjaket, they may just pop a few over the pond for good measures. ( or at least let it slip in a memo )

America wants irans oil and large reserves of cash sitting around the world. Like in Iraq they'll rape the economy under the pretense of bringing democracy and keeping order in the world. They can't fix their own economy so they might as well steal someone else's. Obama is such a ****ing disappointment, the only change he's brought is in skin color with the same bullshit underneath it.

Now Iran isn't without it's problems but ffs the average age of population is 26. the previous generation was taken out by Americas last foray, curtesy of the proxy war they fought using a certain Mr S Hussain.

Time will fix everything, Iran's leaders won't live forever and once all these kids who like jeans, pop music and iPods grow up things are bound to change.

A war will certainly make things worse. Enough of our soldiers have died for nothing as it is.

Oil oil oil, Iran's power will toil.
America waging war shocker, and britain being dragged in again by our elected politicians..

if you wanna look at it like that, everyone dies for nothing really

why is it that we seem to have been at war pretty much since i can remember, yet the only time the uk has actually been attacked was when 4 lads from leeds/bradford blew themselves up on the tube

Does that not rather suggest the wars have been succesful then?

I regard it as my government's duty to protect me. If taking out the nuclear weapons of a rogue state is the way to do it, then fair enough. I don't have a problem with that.

Does that not rather suggest the wars have been succesful then?

No, I think it much rather suggests that the whole 'threat of terrorism' thing was concocted in order provide a convenient excuse to erode civil liberties and the ability of citizens to try to act against their government, possibly.

Oh look, that's what's happened. How strange....

If taking out the nuclear weapons of a rogue state is the way to do it, then fair enough. I don't have a problem with that.

Just like they took all the weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq?
Oh! What was that? There were none?

No, I think it much rather suggests that the whole 'threat of terrorism' thing was concocted in order to erode civil liberties and the ability of citizens to try to act against their government, possibly.

Possibly, although we still have far more civil liberties in this country than most others. Plus we can still act against the government by voting them out. For all its problems Britain is still a great plpace to live, so our governments (of whatever colour) must be doing something right.

With nuclear weapons I think I'd prefer not to wait until it's too late.

kenny - I don't think killing innocent civilians in a far off country makes us any safer - infact many folk think we are more at risk having created the conditions for radicals to appear and by making ourselves a target for the radicals hatred

For all its problems Britain is still a great plpace to live, so our governments (of whatever colour) must be doing something right.

Genius

How long were Hiroshima and Nagasaki unusable?

soobalias - Member
if you wanna look at it like that, everyone dies for nothing really

We all die - yes but before then we get to live, have families, see them grow up, ride some bikes in some nice places. Put simply we get to live and then we die. That's not nothing - that's a very big something.

Whatever happens, we shoul stay well out of it. I can't see the military being too keen to be at the sharp end (again) of losing people so that a politician can flex his/her ego.

Having said that, anyone know where I can get a t shirt with a drone plane on it?

No, I think it much rather suggests that the whole 'threat of terrorism' thing was concocted in order provide a convenient excuse to erode civil liberties and the ability of citizens to try to act against their government, possibly.

Oh look, that's what's happened. How strange....

OMG I agree with the ELF, V for vendetta was a glimpse of the future, alan moore was a visionary wizard and my hob nob has just broken in half in my cup of tea...the world is truly coming to an end

Could someone start a nuclear war please ... mankind need to be culled fast.

Nuke them all or be nuked whichever comes first is fine with me.

What's with this pussyfooting eh? Get it over and done with and nuke them.

Human is the scum of the earth. Yes, including you and me.

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Could someone start a nuclear war please ... mankind need to be culled fast.

Nuke them all or be nuked whichever comes first is fine with me.

What's with this pussyfooting eh? Get it over and done with and nuke them.

Human is the scum of the earth. Yes, including you and me.

I think an Ebola epidemic would be much better, then all the animals and plant life won't suffer.

And those of us left coud go for a nice ride as the trails won't be overcrowded. 😀

Humans are scum but a few left would be nice, just to tell the monkeys what dicks we were when they take over.

OMG I agree with the ELF

But Tazzy, surely, with our mutual love for Ken Lee*, that should not surprise you?

Great minds...

*Tulibu dibu douchou

kenny - I don't think killing innocent civilians in a far off country makes us any safer - infact many folk think we are more at risk having created the conditions for radicals to appear and by making ourselves a target for the radicals hatred

I've certainly no desire to see innocent people killed. And for the record I regard Iran as in many ways being one of the cradles of world civilisation. In the form of Persia it has an amazing history going back thousands of years, and the Iranians I've met have been some of the most cultured, intelligent people I've ever encountered. I'd love to visit the country sometime.

That said, it has no need for nuclear energy, given its vast oil reserves, ergo the most likely reason for the Iranian nuclear programme is the creation of a bomb. Therefore I have no problem with my government taking action to prevent this happening.

As regards the radicals and the conditions that create the radicals, that's a but of a chicken and egg situation I'd have thought. Very debateable which caused which.

Iran does not need nukes cos it has oil - but we need nukes even tho we have oil? Global warming remebere - according to out governemnt nukes are the answer

I have a huge issue with my government bombing the shit out of another country for no good reason.

as for creating terrorists - thats exactly what we did.

eyerideit - Member

I think an Ebola epidemic would be much better, then all the animals and plant life won't suffer.

And those of us left coud go for a nice ride as the trails won't be overcrowded.

Humans are scum but a few left would be nice, just to tell the monkeys what dicks we are when they take over.

eermm ... yes, the animals and plants should be spared but then nuking everything is more humane with no suffering.

kennyp - Member

As regards the radicals and the conditions that create the radicals, that's a but of a chicken and egg situation I'd have thought. Very debateable which caused which.

Nuke them and see if they can become radicals just for fun.

TandemJeremy - Member

Iran does not need nukes cos it has oil - but we need nukes even tho we have oil? Global warming remebere - according to out governemnt nukes are the answer

eh? I think the oil is deep beneath the earth so no harm done to the oil and if you survive you can drink as much as you like provided you know how to extract them.

I have a huge issue with my government bombing the shit out of another country for no good reason.

I have no issue about that because human needs culling. If we got nuked so be it because it just like a big party with everyone shooting off their fireworks.

as for creating terrorists - thats exactly what we did.

Then self cull ...

I have few Persian friends and nice people too so long as they are right and you are wrong ... like most people. Their woman folks are good looking as well ... 😆

but we need nukes even tho we have oil?

But I didn't say we need nukes. Well not the weapons anyway. Power stations yes. Far better than vandalising the countryside with wind farms the way the SNP is doing (that's another debate though).

I have a huge issue with my government bombing the shit out of another country for no good reason.

Me too, although I have no issue if there is a good reason and no viable alternative.

Nuke them and see if they can become more radicals just for fun.

The might become radicals with super-human radioactive powers, and then where would we be?

Right - so we have oil but need nukes but Iran doesn't? why exactly?

Dunno what a good reason for bombing the shit out of a country is - personally I know of nothing since 1939 and even then some of it - say the bombing of dresden might be a bit OTT.

Nothing since 1945 has been a good enough reason for sure

kennyp - Member

The might become radicals with super-human radioactive powers, and then where would we be?

Then be prepared to be probed in the cavity ... like the aliens probing human. 😆

TandemJeremy - Member

Right - so we have oil but need nukes but Iran doesn't? why exactly?

Because we set the rules and until they can set the rules like Darius they must obey or be nuked. Simple. Oh ya ... and stop multiplying as that take up space.

Dunno what a good reason for bombing the shit out of a country is - personally I know of nothing since 1939 and even then some of it - say the bombing of dresden might be a bit OTT.

You are being sentimental there. They knew it was coming ...

Nothing since 1945 has been a good enough reason for sure

Create a reason then ... 🙄

*Applauds*

One step closer to the end game.

Just a few more points of carefully planned weakness to attain and then ****stan will fall. Then the world will slowly (V E R Y S L O W LY) be allowed to grow up! 🙂

Right - so we have oil but need nukes but Iran doesn't? why exactly?

If I thought Iran was developing nuclear technology for purely peaceful purposes then I wouldn't have a problem with it. However the weight of evidence suggests they aren't. If negotiation and peaceful persuasion don't work then sadly military action will have to be used as a last resort, before it's too late.

Nothing since 1945 has been a good enough reason for sure

Bombing Serbia probably saved more lives than it cost. And no oil there either.

Then be prepared to be probed in the cavity ... like the aliens probing human.

Pah......can't be any more painful than some of the saddles I've used over the years!

Nothing since 1945 has been a good enough reason for sure

And no-one has attacked us since then either. Maybe they're scared.

razor1548 - Member

*Applauds*

One step closer to the end game.

Just a few more points of carefully planned weakness to attain and then ****stan will fall. Then the world will slowly (V E R Y S L O W LY) be allowed to grow up!

Encourage them to nuke their neighbours* first then let the game begins.

Note: *all their neighbours are armed with nukes too! Hooray! Large population too! Woohoo!

what Iran could really do with is a big cuddle instead of a slap.. but the western superpowers are greedy, insecure, highly volatile, dangerous bullies..

so Iran will probably be massacred.. it's incredibly tragic

kennyp - Member

"Right - so we have oil but need nukes but Iran doesn't? why exactly?"

If I thought Iran was developing nuclear technology for purely peaceful purposes then I wouldn't have a problem with it. However the weight of evidence suggests they aren't.

If negotiation and peaceful persuasion don't work then sadly military action will have to be used as a last resort, before it's too late.

can you not see the rank hypocrisy?

really?

Indeed. That's what the evidence suggests.

so we get to tell them they cannot have nukes but we can and so can israel?

can you not see the rank hypocrisy?

I know that no Israeli government will ever nuke Britain. I'm not so sure about an Iranian one. Might be hypocritical, but I'd rather put the safety of my country before my sense of what's fair.

It's like knife carrying. I'm fine to be carrying a knife as part of my mountain bike tool kit. Some little tatooed ned isn't. Might not be fair, but neither is life. I can be trusted; he can't.

TJ, yunki ... be fair nuke all and let the earth regenerate. 🙄

It's like knife carrying. I'm fine to be carrying a knife as part of my mountain bike tool kit. Some little tatooed ned isn't. Might not be fair, but neither is life. I can be trusted; he can't.

That is the daftest bit of 'logic' I've read in ages. 😆

I'm not so sure about an Iranian one.

If I was Iranian I'd want nukes ASAP. Might stop us from invading and destroying their country.

Good God. Let's pray that there are some in the Israeli government who aren't homicidal maniacs

I think we're all cattle trucked!

If I was Iranian I'd want nukes ASAP

They dont need to make one, they can beg borrow or steal them from any other rogue state. North Korea anyone?

The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.
(George Orwell)

indeed dangerous times.