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[i]Or it will live a happy existence in a hedgerow, field or disused barn.[/i]
we used to have them living in the base of a large wooden patio tub and the used to take sunflower seeds from the bird feeder, great entertainment watch them work their way round to the feeders. Gone now new nieghbours next door have 3 cats
...I used a cat as i t seemed like the most satisfactory vegan option..
How on earth is getting a cat to kill a mouse any more "vegan friendly" than using a trap to do it? That's rank hypocricy if you ask me as the mouse is just as dead.
Personally I use the traditional lethal traps on around 15-20 mice so far this winter. I've had to finish off a two of those, not a particularly pleasant task, but it had to be done.
I don't think house mice can live in the hedgerows.
I'm sure they can give it a go 😀
Like most animals they just need shelter and food. It doesn't have to be houses and human scraps - they are just easy pickings. My dad has house mice under his shed. Quite happy there.
They certainly survive longer in a hedgerow than in a mousetrap!
2hottie: you'll need a big trap for that wee blighter! 😀
Harry, you pay council tax. Contact your council pest control dept- it'll probably be cheaper.
The lad who came to my old house was switched on. He said he wouldn't lay down poison as the animal might crawl, fall or lodge somewhere away from the bait and rot slowly.
In addition, he said it was a they and they were SQUIRRELS. You need to find the entry point IMO and take pro advice.
The lad laid traps by the way and cameback every few days. It cost me £50. The pest controller thinks they came up through a cavity wall from ground level externally. In my case that made alot of sense as down in the kitchen food had been nibbled inside a closed large cupboard that had a partly open back (to the wall). I never found the source etc as we moved not long after.
We had 3 cats
Cat 1: Lazy bugger, didn't do a whole lot, occasionally looked at a mouse in a baleful manner.
Blue Square Cat 0-2 Mice
Cat 2: If it saw a mouse, would chase after it, play with it for a bit, and generally worry it to death.
Championship Cat 1-1 Mice
Cat 3: Actively looked for mice, would lie in wait for one to come out, killed them and bit the head off. Would then leave the remains for you and expect praise for a job well done.
Premier League Cat 6-0 Mice
We've managed to ship cat 1 off to my sister-in-law's place as it was useless. Cat 2 has had it's contract extended, but cat 3 has had a series of good transfers and is now a first team pick, as well as being CEO of In-House-Kill-A-Mouse plc
How on earth is getting a cat to kill a mouse any more "vegan friendly" than using a trap to do it? That's rank hypocricy if you ask me as the mouse is just as dead.
obviously meat eaters here are not hypoctis ..I mean graham eats them but wont kill them ...quick have a pop at him.
Ps the speech marks would allow most people to realise it was ironic/untrue/misguided but I will try harder next time for you.
I mean graham eats them but wont kill them
And just so we're clear: I [u]do not[/u] eat live mice!
It's grim up north, but not that grim. 😀
the speech marks would allow most people to realise it was ironic/untrue/misguided but I will try harder next time for you.
What speech marks? All I can see is a few full stops (almost ellipsis but there aren't enough of them). Is that some sort of typographic representation of speech marks? If it is then it's not ones that I've ever come across.
Oh and just because someone eats meat, it doesn't follow that they want to kill every animal they come across, so no that isn't necessarily hypocricy.
Oh and just because someone eats meat, it doesn't follow that they want to kill every animal they come across, so no that isn't necessarily hypocricy.
We've currently got a mouse in the office. A tiny thing whizzing about. I went to buy some traps and the girls errupted with 'kind catching ones not maiming ones to hurt Mickey'.
For ****s sake they'd previously stopped me from finding and stamping on it.
Its vermin. Get one of those stone cold killers in. A cat.
dont suppose anyone has got a link to that old thread about a mouse in a sofa?
And what about the churchmouse thread?
Its vermin. Get one of those stone cold killers in. A cat.
Cats are vermin too, no? 😉
[i]mouse in a sofa?[/i]
ah, not long after I joined, that, was and it was a shrew - posted by user 'dick' if that helps
I managed to contribute the sound of a dead mouse going up a vacuum cleaner nozzle to it.
What speech marks? All I can see is a few full stops (almost ellipsis but there aren't enough of them). Is that some sort of typographic representation of speech marks? If it is then it's not ones that I've ever come across.You may be alone in not recognising these as speech marks then
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"vegan friendly"Oh and just because someone eats meat, it doesn't follow that they want to kill every animal they come across, so no that isn't necessarily hypocricy.
And just because i don’t eat meat does not mean I want to prevent other animals from eating meat 😀
Nigel Mansell hasnt aged well, has he....
Nigel Mansell hasnt aged well, has he....
...neither has the guy with the 'tache.
Veggie tree-huggist wife wants to wait another 48 hours with the humane trap and Mars Bar approach. After that it is sticky trap, carrier bag, hiking boot and wheelie bin time. Adios my leeetle furry amigo.
I've taken mine out to the countryside and left them at least half a mile away from habitation. I'm probably in a minority though.
I did that when there was a mouse in my first flat. I caught him in a humane trap, stuffed with chocolate hamster nibbles and bedding. He actually looked quite comfortable...
Adios my leeetle furry amigo.
You realise there are usually around eight in a mouse family group?
I think he's a solo. Very little evidence of poo and we caught the other one a couple of months ago so he's got nobody to get giggy with.
Whatever, I'm getting 24 sheets of "KILL PAPER" and I have a massive supply of carrier bags.
Damn sexy!
We had one last year. I bought a humane trap and after that did nothing for a few days I made a trap of my own with a high sided bucket, a strip of plywood and a toilet roll tube and spent an entertaining evening letting the mouse try it out.
It didn't work but I did find out the mouse was CRAZY for peanut butter. So I put some of that in the humane trap, left it on the kitchen floor and 12 hours later it had worked.
Took the mouse about a mile and a half away and let him go into a field. He looked happy about it. Not had another one since.
2tyred, somewhere a mouse with two small mouse children was wondering why Daddy up and left one day. Why did he walk out on them?
Better to go into their community and wipe the lot out shock and awe style.. 😈
Better that they all live together in the vast halls of Valhalla.
There are too many to ever wipe out hora.
It has to be hearts and minds operation. Rise above it, treat your prisoners humanely, regardless of their crimes, show that you are not an aggressor and you are simply defending your own territory.
I also write out tiny fliers explaining my actions and encouraging any sympathisers to move to the house next door.
It has to be hearts and minds operation. Rise above it, treat your prisoners humanely, regardless of their crimes, show that you are not an aggressor and you are simply defending your own territory.
Hmmm... having considered this I shall still but them in a bag and stamp on them.
Whenever we have a mouse it doesn't last long... these two are in direct competition for them..!
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Avoid letting it die anywhere that gets damp though, because, if you can't reach it its just going to smell and smell and smell whenever it gets damp or warm.
having considered this I shall still but them in a bag and stamp on them.
I thought you were planning to waterboard them?
i caught one with a classic trap baited with peanut butter. there was no way i was releasing it alive, but it was only caught by the tail in the trap. I chucked the trap including mouse in a bucket of water to drown it. mouse climbed onto the floating trap and stood there looking at me...
i then had to get a broom handle and hold the mouse under the water til it's last breath came out of its little mouth. 😳 🙁
I've taken mine out to the countryside and left them at least half a mile away from habitation. I'm probably in a minority though.
Me too - a whole nest of them from under the shed. I only moved them because they started taking the hens' food.
mouse climbed onto the floating trap and stood there looking at me...
At that point I'd have rewarded its ingenuity by letting it live.
I found evidence of a mouse in my Garage this year, and caught 3 in 3 nights with a proper old school sprung trap and a lump of cheddar. If you've seen one, he'll have a bunch of mates hiding somewhere, probably egging him on and laughing at you.
My trap cost a whopping £1.50. If they won't take your bait, remove any other food so that what's on the trap is the tastiest treat available
Personally I'd get a couple of 6 packs of traps and go for the carpet bombing / shock & awe strategy
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mouse climbed onto the floating trap and stood there looking at me...
At that point I'd have rewarded its ingenuity by letting it live.
it did cross my mind, but it had crossed the line one too many times sadly.
i then had to get a broom handle and hold the mouse under the water til it's last breath came out of its little mouth.
See this is the other thing:
I catch a mouse, take a walk, release it in the countryside and feel good about it all day.
You catch a mouse, kill it and still feel bad ages later.
Instant karma. Sometimes the action is the reward itself man.
haha, i know but i lived in central london at the time and i just couldn't be bothered to take my mouse for a 2 mile walk. 😆
but i have regretted it ever since, the sight of the bubble coming out of its mouth continues to haunt me. 🙁
In my old studio flat we had about 5 or 6 mice! Really not nice at all to be honest.
I got a old traditional trap from Homebase and some poision. I didn't work for a good few days, but then after the mice had somehow eaten the peanut butter from the trap it started going off! 5 dead mice in 5 days!
Never did get that last one, don't care now though as I don't live there anymore 😆
catch a mouse, take a walk, release it in the countryside and feel good about it all day.
like me then you just let nature do the killing its a moral conceit 😕
Nah, it's up to the mouse whether it ends up as an owl pellet or lives to a ripe old age of 2.
I give it the best start I can: leaving it in dense cover with plenty of shelter. The rest is up to it.
On a slightly tangential (but somehow related in my head) question on morale relativism: is it okay for a vegan to eat cows that have died of old age?
They are a pain. Been poisoning them in our loft for months. Find dead ones,goes quiet then starts again.Stuffed all holes with wire wool, poison trays are filled and eaten. Also use sticky boards which I check every day and have then killed about 10 of them over a few months with a brick outside. Given up getting rid of them just keep the numbers down to a minimum.
On a slightly tangential (but somehow related in my head) question on morale relativism: is it okay for a vegan to eat cows that have died of old age?
Only if you think it's equally OK for cows to eat vegans who've died of old age.............
poor bastard.
read burns,you'll love the wee bugger.
poor bastard.
read burns,you'll love the wee bugger.
Did Burns find mouse shit under his son's bed? I suspect not.
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This works really well with mice and rats.I use bird seed as bate. 6 mice in 7 days from my shed.



