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go on Bolt
that is all
Very rarely I shout at the tv, just did
Thank **** for that
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the right person won (not the drug cheat 😆
Well not one who's been caught yet... 😉
hmmmm - I was going to say "I hope turns out clean" but figured that would be a bit churlish
It's just a daily mail type comment on the current situation in athletics. I hope coe can do something to remove any such concerns from anyone who works hard enough and has the talent to dominate their sport like bolt and farah
Surprised no complaints at the lack of spoiler given the non obvious title.
Worth a read...
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ah, sorry mrblobby - fair point
please feel free to report the thread (too late for me to amend title)
(I've just reported your post, so hopefully that'll do it)
Part of me kinda hope that Gatlin won, just to help kick up even more of a fuss over doping, but glad Bolt got it in the end.
It's just a daily mail type comment on the current situation in athletics. I hope coe can do something to remove any such concerns from anyone who works hard enough and has the talent to dominate their sport like bolt and farah
Not sure I can take your post seriously Coe cleaning up? You think he was clean 😆
Is that sprint factory book from before all the Jamaicans got popped?
Lovely Jess won a gold too 😀
Lovely Katrina didn't 🙁
Jessica is radiant while Katarina Johnson-Thompson looks gloomy (not smiling etc whatever) but if she can cheer up a bit more she can be the next champion.
Bolt with his cheerful personality carried him through.
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superb results for Ennis-hill and Bolt.. definitely something you wouldn't have put your house on 6months ago.
Jess hand Usain have lovely smiles 🙂
It's odd to accept whatever rules allow Gatlin to compete after his past... Bolt was nervous and ran poorly. Luck was on his side.
Dirtyrider - evidence of anything to the contrary please as would be genuinely interested. Pleased Bolt won but a twice convicted drug cheat is still on the podium #shameoniaaf #boycottnike
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Delighted Bolt won.
Jessica is fabulous and such a great advert for althetics. Katrina vs Jess will be epic at the Olympics, had Kattinas's long jump counted she would probably have won gold. Will be interesting to see how she goes in the long jump as she's entered for that too.
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Jessica is fabulous and such a great advert for althetics. Katrina vs Jess will be epic at the Olympics, had Kattinas's long jump counted she would probably have won gold. Will be interesting to see how she goes in the long jump as she's entered for that too.
Ya, Katrina's 3rd jump nearly won her a gold but the entire strategy was wrong from the start go.
I would get her to not to fault in the first jump (not matter how poor) just to avoid the 3 strikes to stay in the game then she can do whatever she wants in the remaining two. She was faulted by 0.01 over the clay mark in her 3rd jump ... arrghhh ...
In her 3rd jump she could have played it safe just to fight another day in other events in order to get a medal but she went for broke.
Apart from that I think if she can relax or cheer up a bit she will be the next champion but at the moment she is inexperience in big stage. She lacks confidence.
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Dirtyrider - evidence of anything to the contrary please as would be genuinely interested
what year did they ban blood doping?
Did anyone else see the Beeb infographic??? that showed Bolt was travelling at 29mph when he crossed the line 😯 29mph?????? I find that mind boggling.
what year did they ban blood doping?
1984?
Is that sprint factory book from before all the Jamaicans got popped?
After. Worth a read. Author is someone who's been reporting on cycling for years too.
Bolt does the double in style quite a margin 🙂
Hughes runs a PB in the lane between Gatlin and Bolt, great performance and hopefully he can go better in Rio.
Always prefer a show off to a cheat 😀 Nice one.
Not sure I can take your post seriously Coe cleaning up? You think he was clean
Cleaner than Bolt
When Gatlin was (found to be) cheating, did he run slower or faster than he runs now ?
slower, he's a lot fast now,
In the case of Gatlin, you have an athlete, at 33, running faster than he did at 24, ostensibly without the benefit of steroids. Think that through.
http://sportsscientists.com/2015/05/the-gatlin-dilemma/
Of the top 5 fastest sprinters in the world (including his training partner Yohan Blake) Bolt is the only one who hasn't been busted for P.E.D.s
Make of that what you will.
I will make of that that you have no proof he cheats but want to insinuate it nonetheless
Am I right?
Did I insinuate that he cheats? Do I have to insinuate that he cheats? I think the facts insinuate that he cheats. But only time will tell.
For what it's worth even if Bolt got busted tomorrow I wouldn't feel any ill will, all of his competitors are juiced to the ****ing tits. That's a fact. If he's on PEDs too, then really so what.
If he did a Lance, and started attacking anyone who questioned him, it might be a different story though.
I'm not saying anything - I want to believe!
Fastest ever 100m times (times of those who have doped redacted in red).....
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Only in China...
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My personal view. He's clean. Clearly he is genetically different from your typical sprinter-taller & leaner. I think he's a one-off freak-of-nature for want of a better term. He's raised the bar and other people have had to cheat to try to compete at his level.
The fact the all his rivals have already been caught just suggests to me the testing is working, giving more support to him being clean.
As above his running style and the limb length, whole of his physical make up make him able to travel very fast when up to speed. His start is ragged as he has to get those limbs into shape for speed (upright and flowing in a straight line). For most of us the 100m is about power for him it's a mix of power and the flow of his gangly frame
This is similar to the thread on Farah where a number of people asserted that he was taking drugs (without any evidence) We will never know if Bolt is clean or not as you will always have people like Dirtyrider who make baseless accusations 30+ years later.
Bolt is popular at the moment but that shouldnt give him a free pass. I dont know if he is on drugs (I hope he isnt) but this whole thing is hardly objective. Bolt is innocent as is Seb Coe as neither have been found guilty of taking drugs. We slur one but see the other as the "peoples champion! !
I'm 50:50 on whether he's clean, on the one hand he obviously has an abnormal stride length and good leg speed to go with it but if that's all it takes to give you a big edge why are most sprinters short and stocky - if there's lots of lanky kids running fast times growing up a few must have good leg speed to and would have made the grade. Also the Jamaican anti-doping program used to be a joke, not sure if it's improved the last few years but it was still a joke when Bolt burst onto the scene.
We will never know if Bolt is clean or not as you will always have people like Dirtyrider who make baseless accusations 30+ years later.
Let's not forget insinuating you are a naïve idiot if you're happy not to make un-evidenced accusations. 🙂
Guess it might just be me, but the whole doping in sport thing doesn't irk me at all. I'd let them do it. Just declare it.
Clearly he is genetically different from your typical sprinter-taller & leaner. I think he's a one-off freak-of-nature for want of a better term.
I was going to counter this with similar to Fuzzywuzzy....
he obviously has an abnormal stride length and good leg speed to go with it but if that's all it takes to give you a big edge why are most sprinters short and stocky - if there's lots of lanky kids running fast times growing up a few must have good leg speed to and would have made the grade.
Loads of sports are in many ways like a massively speeded up version of natural selection. Very quickly the best shape for a specific sport comes to the fore. I'd argue that the fact that Bolt isn't a similar shape to other elite sprinters is more not less of a reason to suspect something (which I'm trying really hard not to!). But then look at the difference between body shape in the women's final and maybe it's an irrelevance!
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OT - in a sport measured in thousandths of a second where marginal gains must be everything, why would you drag around all that hair!
This is similar to the thread on Farah where a number of people asserted that he was taking drugs
A number of people asserted drug taking was as rife within athletics, and especially distance running, as in cycling, a number of people (including yourself) adamantly denied that was the case. Have you noticed the revelations that have come out since then?
I once lined up against Hugh Jones in a 10k. I'd never heard of him (despite him being at University in Liverpool the same time as me) Seeing him warm up I took little notice of him. He was awesome and went on to win the race and the London Marathon a couple of years later. His "style" couldnt be described as "smooth" but he was certainly effective.
Its about a number of factors and not all of them look efficient to the naked eye.
A number of people asserted drug taking was as rife within athletics, and especially distance running, as in cycling, a number of people (including yourself) adamantly denied that was the case. Have you noticed the revelations that have come out since then?
I think you have a convenient recollection of that thread. I did not "adamantly" deny that distance runners took drugs as you assert. As in this thread I would like to see at least some evidence before castigating athletes. You indicated that Salazar was on drugs in spite of the fact that he had never failed a drugs test. The fact that he ran high mileage in training was a sign that he was doping to you whereas to me it may have been the root of his success.
By all means reopen the thread.
I think you have a convenient recollection of that thread
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