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Predictable and expected.   Disgusting behaviour but fits in perfectly with the actions over many years and Netanyahu aims of getting rid of the Palestinians


 
Posted : 03/03/2025 1:23 am
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On tonight on Channel 4 at 11.15pm

 

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/channel-4-announce-network-premiere-oscar-winning-israel-palestine-doc


 
Posted : 04/03/2025 10:52 pm
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bbc-gaza-documentary-tim-davie-israel-b2708547.html

Impartiality has failed if its key method is to constantly balance “both sides” of a story as equally true. A news outlet that refuses to come to conclusions becomes a vehicle in informational warfare, where bad faith actors flood social media with unfounded claims, creating a post-truth “fog”. Only robust evidence-based conclusions can cut through this.


 
Posted : 07/03/2025 11:26 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/18/israel-gaza-live-blog-updates-air-strikes-strip-netanyahu-hamas

 

Live updates from the Guardian for the renewed attacks.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:33 am
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Netenyahu is off the scale nuts, Im assuming the reasoning for this is some kind of internal Israeli politicking, Dementia Don wonte be happy, will this jeopardise his nobel peace prize?


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:55 am
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Im assuming the reasoning for this is some kind of internal Israeli politicking,

That's my understanding of it. In his pursuit of continued tenure as Prime Minister, he's had to rely on ever more hard-right coalition partners and meet their demands - because if he doesn't, they'll walk out of government and pave the way for an election - and more criminal investigation of his various alleged corrupt misdeeds. 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 12:02 pm
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It would have been cleared by the Don before being executed.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 1:16 pm
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Like Putin,  Netanyahu is keen to do as much damage as he can before any potential peace deal. ****ing animals, war crimes doesn't cover it.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:15 pm
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Starmer is either a ****ing coward or he is bought n’ paid for

 

Downing Street rejects Lammy’s claim Israel broke international law in Gaza

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/18/downing-street-rejects-lammy-claim-israel-broke-international-law-gaza


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:23 pm
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Lammy's right to state his opinion... it's one I agree with... it's one any impartial observer would agree with as well. Will be interesting when someone asks the PM about that directly... it's be harder to play the "it's a matter of law, not opinion line" then.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:41 pm
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It would have been cleared by the Don before being executed.

 
judging by this statement it would seem that it was and in line with latest US policy for the region
 

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Israel had notified the US about the attacks before they were launched.

“As President Trump has made it clear - Hamas, the Houthis, Iran and all those who seek to terrorise not just Israel, but also the United States of America, will see a price to pay. All hell will break loose,” she said.

 
 

 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:45 pm
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The exceptional Francesca Albanese lays it out for all to see and hear

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:41 pm
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The exceptional Francesca Albanese lays it out for all to see and hear

Superb interview

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 6:32 pm
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Israel saying more strikes on the way and they have America's backing 

 

Is there even anywhere left for the populacr to flee to?


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 7:03 pm
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Just caught an interview with an analyst in 5Live saying that if we don't stand firm and condemn war crimes in Gaza and Ukraine, those actions become normalised/accepted, the Geneva Convention etc will be worthless and next time it could be our troops and civilians on the receiving end.

Sobering thought, the way the world is going.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 7:46 pm
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It's hard not to come to the conclusion that the Israelis are liquidising the ghetto.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:56 pm
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Not really imo, the logistics facing the israelis is far greater than that faced by the Nazis when they liquidised the ghettos. There are over 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and yet despite the relentless destructive power of Israel they have only managed to kill less than 50,000 of them in the last 18 months. So still another 2 million left.

They have no concentration camps to transport 2 million Palestinians by train to and slowly starving 2 million people with the whole world watching isn't feasible.

They have restarted killing Palestinians in large numbers because that is their usual response to any issues concerning the Palestinians. 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 12:36 am
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slowly starving 2 million people with the whole world watching isn't feasible.

Apparently it is. 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:41 am
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Sorry I meant starving to death.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:44 am
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:47 am
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liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:49 am
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?

Im not sure Starmer has any influence whatsoever on the situation and Trump seems to have fully backed this as part of his current policy which is that "All hell will break loose" on Hamas and others who are terrorising Israel & America, realistically America are the only ones that can pressure Israel in to allowing aid in to palestine, but Trump is more keen on bombing them atm.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 11:06 am
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?

You think that the world would allow Israel to starve to death over 2 million men women and children so that they can clear out Gaza in the same way that the Nazis cleared out the Jewish ghettos? Well I guess that's your prerogative, if you actually really believe it.

Im not sure Starmer has any influence whatsoever

The UK has a significant influence over the situation in Palestine which is precisely why Starmer is utterly obsessed with not criticising Israel.

Otherwise Starmer would be perfectly happy to allow, for example, his Foreign Secretary to claim that Israel is breaking international law dismissing the comment as irrelevant. Instead David Lammy (who is a member of Labour Friends of Israel) was slapped down and Downing Street insisted that Israel was only at "risk" of breaking international law.

You would think that a renowned barrister and former head of the Crown Prosecution Service knows that withholding humanitarian aid and electricity, as Israel has proudly boasted they are doing, is a war crime. I am sure that Starmer would have no hesitation at all condemning Russia if they were publicly making similar claims concerning Ukraine.

If the UK government's position had no bearing on the situation in Gaza who doubts that Starmer would go along with public opinion and denounce in a meaningful way what Israel is doing in Gaza?

But to do so would put pressure on the UK government to impose sanctions and an arms embargo on Israel, officially recognise the State of Palestine, use its position as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council to make the case against the Israeli apartheid regime, etc, all of which would harm Israel.

Starmer does nothing precisely because he knows that doing something would be effective.

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 1:01 pm
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liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"

I did, spellcheck beat me to it and now there’s no edit function.

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 1:13 pm
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Posted by: timba

liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"

I did, spellcheck beat me to it and now there’s no edit function.

 

To be fair, I think you described the Israeli approach quite accurately 

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 2:40 pm
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You think that the world would allow Israel to starve to death over 2 million men women and children so that they can clear out Gaza in the same way that the Nazis cleared out the Jewish ghettos? Well I guess that's your prerogative, if you actually really believe it.

Well, they stood by and watched nearly a million Rwandans die, and that was when the US was not allied with one of the participants.

Starmer does nothing precisely because he knows that doing something would be effective.

That seems a bit tortured logic. From my POV Starmer does nothing because it is cost-free, whereas actually growing a moral compass would put him at odds with his paymasters. And his mother-in-law.

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 2:51 pm
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actually growing a moral compass would put him at odds with his paymasters. 

As I understand it the British people pay Starmer's salary, if you know different would you care to elaborate.

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 2:56 pm
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-orban-to-discuss-trumps-gaza-plan-in-hungary-this-week-source/

“Netanyahu is trying to build a coalition of as many countries as possible backing Trump’s plan for Gaza,” says the source.

 I'm thinking that shouldn't take him very long. Obviously Netanyahu himself, fellow far-right authoritarian Viktor Orban seems keen, possibly Putin I would have thought, and of course Trump.

Oh and far-right fanatical zionist Milei of Argentina. I can't think of any others. Netanyahu really doesn't seem to have many friends.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 12:27 am
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I don’t know what the **** is going to happen to Gaza/West Bank over the coming months/years, I read the reports and watch the clips from those in Gaza reporting on the slaughter, I follow the various aid agencies and humanitarian organisations and I’m feeling empty. 

 

I’m coming to the conclusion that after 80+/- years of violence and terror throughout the occupied land there is only one solution, and there doesn’t appear to be any desire whatsoever by the state of Israel and its current government/political structure to veer from it’s utterly blatant for all to see drive for genocidal extermination of the Palestinian population.

 

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 1:16 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/israel-killed-15-palestinian-paramedics-and-rescue-workers-one-by-one-says-un

“A few minutes later, during the call, we heard the sound of Israeli soldiers arriving at the location, speaking in Hebrew. The conversation was about gathering the team, with statements like: ‘Gather them at the wall and bring some restraints to tie them.’ This indicated that a large number of the medical staff were still alive.”

Jens Laerke, an Ocha spokesperson in Geneva, said: “The available information indicates that the first team was killed by Israeli forces on 23 March, and that other emergency and aid crews were struck one after another over several hours as they searched for their missing colleagues.

“They were buried under the sand, alongside their wrecked emergency vehicles – clearly marked ambulances, a fire truck and a UN car.”

This has as much to do with "self-defence" as the Nazi invasion of Poland had. It is genocide.

The tactics the far-right Israeli government government are currently using in Occupied Palestine in 2025 are the tactics which the Nazis used in Occupied Europe in 1945. 

And our current "Labour" government helps and supports them.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 5:20 pm
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No wonder the Israeli government welcomes neo-Nazis with open arms and yet bans without hesitation Jews who are critical of genocidal zionists.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/europe/israel-embraces-france-far-right-intl/index.html


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 5:25 pm
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I'm thinking that shouldn't take him very long. Obviously Netanyahu himself, fellow far-right authoritarian Viktor Orban seems keen, possibly Putin I would have thought, and of course Trump.

The unfortunate truth is that he doesn't need any of them except Trump, and it's Trump's idea in the first place.  The short-sighted bit is that once the Mar al Gaza resort is built, Trump won't have any use for Netanyahu (or whichever butcher succeeds him) so they will be left at the mercy of however the winds of history blow.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 5:36 pm
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Actually "Trump's plan for Gaza" apart from the fact that it is completely nonsensical is totally dependent on the support of two Arab countries - Egypt and Jordan.

There is zero chance of Egypt and Jordan supporting Trump's idea of ethnically cleansing Gaza and reallocating Palestinians on Egyptian and/or Jordanian territory.

The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale. Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 10:09 pm
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Actually "Trump's plan for Gaza" apart from the fact that it is completely nonsensical is totally dependent on the support of two Arab countries - Egypt and Jordan.

There is zero chance of Egypt and Jordan supporting Trump's idea of ethnically cleansing Gaza and reallocating Palestinians on Egyptian and/or Jordanian territory.

The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale. Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

 

 

Im of the belief that the IDF and the vast majority of the Israeli government went full genocidal mode quite some time ago.

If it was up to myself I’d give every single settler 1 week to vacate their illegal properties on illegally seized land, a return to the original Israeli borders and if they objected to that then tough, live with it or sod off somewhere else 

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 10:53 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/02/israel-announces-intention-seize-large-areas-gaza-strip

Israel Katz said in a statement on Wednesday that “troops will move to clear areas of terrorists and infrastructure, and seize extensive territory that will be added to the state of Israel’s security areas”.

 


 
Posted : 02/04/2025 4:58 pm
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A personal story about what this means in real life:

Mohammed and his family have been displaced again. This is the fifth time. I am speaking about a family of seven people with young children. Mohammed is 18 and the eldest child. He and his four siblings have all missed nearly two years of school and are in a constant struggle for existence.
 
The family immediately returned to northern Gaza during the ceasefire in January and set up a tent next to their destroyed apartment. During the Ceasefire it was quiet and work began on clearing rubble from streets while they built a tent that would protect them a little from the wind and rain.
Over the past weeks, the sound of bombing and fighting began to come closer. They became aware of displacement orders on adjacent neighbourhoods. Quadcopters passed regularly overhead, dropping explosives on rooftops. An Apache helicopter shot at solar panels on rooftops nearby.
 
Yesterday, the feared displacement orders were issued for the family’s neighbourhood. The Al-Radwan Mosque on Al-Muntar Street in Al-Shujaiya neighbourhood was targeted. The mosque is next to the family’s apartment.
 
Mohammed had returned to school on that day, but hearing of the attacks he left the classroom. He sent me this message:
“I woke up and went to class. While I was in class, there were people saying that there was an evacuation in the Shujaiya neighborhood. I heard the news and ran home. My mother was preparing the things and my father was finding someone to take our things. My sisters were nervous, and my little brother Zakaria was scared. We went into the unknown and there was no one to carry the things with us. We did not have a tent to set up and sit in. I was tired all day. A man saw us and he had a tent set up and said he will host us in it until tomorrow. We have nowhere to go and where we are sitting now is not safe. We are really sleeping on the street now and there are a lot of destroyed and bombed houses around us. The bombing is continuing until this moment, and we are still in the early hours of the night.”
 
If you can help Mohammed’s family with a donation they will be very grateful. They have no money and depend completely on donations. The situation has never been more desperate for them.
 

 
Posted : 04/04/2025 11:54 am
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Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

That delightful individual features prominently in the BBC documentary I watched last night about the activities him and the other hardline Israeli settlers in the West Bank, which was one of the most fundamentally depressing pieces of telly I’ve ever watched. It’s on iplayer if you fancy putting yourself through it.

These people are indeed fascists. These hate-filled zealots make no attempt to hide the fact that what they’re doing is ethnic cleansing. They’re completely open that if that involves killing every last Palestinian, then that’s what they’ll do. Apparently that’s fine though because god said so 3,000 years ago

Absolute ****s, the lot of them!  


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 12:53 pm
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The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale.

I was in Auschwitz I / Auschwitz Birkenau last week, a very harrowing experience. I find what the Israeli regime is doing to the Palestinian people beyond belief. The rest of the world just standing by and watching is shameful. As others have alluded to, this is history repeating itself.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 1:20 pm
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The rest of the world just standing by and watching is shameful

A big part of the problem, and it's huge imo, is that most governments, certainly Western governments, are not prepared to break rank with the United States on geopolitical issues. So as long as it serves US interests to prop up Israel other governments will simply fall in line.

Although all that might be about to change thanks to Donald Trump. Trump has made what was once  unthinkable, ie Western governments rejecting the United States leading role in international and foreign affairs, a real possibility.

Palestine might quite realistically become a beneficiary of this unprecedented global political shift of influence. If Western governments can become hostile towards US policy with regards to Ukraine and international trade then it is reasonable to assume that they could become hostile towards US Middle East policies.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 2:05 pm
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If Western governments can become hostile towards US policy with regards to Ukraine and international trade then it is reasonable to assume that they could become hostile towards US Middle East policies.

Which countries are these? UK and Germany, where pro-Palestinian expression is already verboten ?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/germany-deporting-pro-palestine-eu-citizens-chilling-new-step


 
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Yes those are exactly the sort of countries which I am referring to, wealthy Western countries which since WW2 have slavishly towed the United States foreign policy line.

Obviously some countries will find it easier to stand up in opposition to US foreign policy, for example France, and some will find it harder, eg the UK.

But I think one of the legacy of the Trump presidency will be that many countries will in the long-term follow foreign policy stances independent of Washington, or at least less dependant.

Trump has proved that the United States is not necessarily a reliable friend and ally.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 5:34 pm
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wealthy Western countries which since WW2 have slavishly towed the United States foreign policy line.

I don't think Germany and the UK have toed (n.b.) the line - they have been quite happy to provide diplomatic and physical weaponry to Israel for their own purposes. It could be that European governments will be freer to deviate from the Washington diktat in future, but the last Palestinain will be long dead before that makes any difference.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 6:31 pm
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It could be that European governments will be freer to deviate from the Washington diktat in future, but the last Palestinain will be long dead before that makes any difference.

Well Starmer would greatly approve of your dismissive attitude, as would zionists worldwide .However those campaigning tirelessly for the isolation of the apartheid regime recognise the critical role that Western governments play and the very obvious responsibility they have to do whatever necessary to stop the genocide. From respecting the international arrest warrant for Netanyahu, to stopping all arms sales to Israel, to applying comprehensive economic and cultural sanctions.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 6:52 pm
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The UK have had their foot in the door ever since Chaim Weizmann showed them how to make acetone... Cue the Balfour Declaration...


 
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