[Closed] Garmin and strava not supporting windows phone

windows phone? I honestly have never seen one. iphone is ubiquitous

This any good for you?

http://www.teamwestwood.co.uk/striver/

Not sure I am understanding.

If you have a Garmin why do you want a phone app? If you are using your Garmin then you have to upload via PC anyway? Or are you looking for the Bluetooth upload on newer Garmins?

windows phone? I honestly have never seen one. iphone is ubiquitous

Had a go on a windows phone the other day, same but different, I can see the appeal of seamless integration with my PC, but then for docs my PC syncs with the NAS and the NAS has an app and for everything else I use the PC because the phone won't do it properly so having the same apps isn't an issue.

It is a little frustrating that some ignore us on Windows Phone and others seem to actively spurn us.

I've used CycloMeter to track rides apparently includes some Strava integration/upload though I've not tried that myself.

If you have a Garmin why do you want a phone app?

Livetrack and things like auto-upload need a bluetooth connection to your phone and the app does the work.

Don't hold your breath on WP support though, they can either spend their time developing an app for the tiny minority or on making them better for the other 96% of smartphone users.

I'd understandable, as windows phone is rubbish so won't get the user base.

All this talk of seamless integration is rubbish as well as its far from seamless and often useless.

Shame as Lumia 930 hardware is good, massively let down by software. I've used windows 10 preview as well and it's not looking that promising.

as windows phone is rubbish

Definitely not rubbish. Not widely supported, true, but not rubbish as an OS.

Anyway - I use Baika for Strava when I haven't got my garmin.

I'd understandable, as windows phone is rubbish so won't get the user base.

And there speaks someone who's obviously never used it.

Things might change over the next six months if they succeed in getting Android apps to run properly on Windows 10, but I'm not convinced that it'll still be in active development this time next year.

It's the eternal catch-22. People won't buy smartphones with no app support, and people won't develop apps without a healthy userbase. It was ever thus.

MS have announced projects to allow both iOS and android apps to run on windows phones. If either of those makes it to general release then there becomes little incentive to create native windows apps.

And there speaks someone who's obviously never used it.

used for 9 months now. It's just so limited in capability and clunky. I thought the BlackBerry before it was bad, but Win phone 8.1 makes BB 10 look super refined and massively capable.

few highlights...

** No means of in-line reply edits to emails
** No means of saving to phone any attachments which the phone wont natively open.
** No consistent back button behaviour
** Very very poor webpage rendering - a lot of web pages don't render (wiggle product pages are prime example, along with many many others)
** OneDrive app doesn't work with MS business .net 365 accounts !!!!!!!!
** need to add a third party app to use the flash as a torch???!
** Maps app (content) is poor compared to google maps. google maps doesn't render very well at all in the browser (well documented issue)
** On certain phones (inc. Lumia 930) you cannot change the default search engine away from Bing. Well documented, no work around.
** Settings menu is a dogs dinner. I can't believe someone said yes, that's a logical way to lay out settings.
** Poor call connection hit rate, regular dropped calls (1 in 2 or 3 calls drops).
** Poor bluetooth (esp. in car connectivity reliability and capability)
** keyboardd auto-correct isn't very good, particularly compared with the other half's Android phone.
** clunky keyboard compared to android and ios. no quick way of entering a number, need to change keyboard style.

etc etc../

We have a dozen or so in the company, same issues across them all.

Should add, one of the more amusing features of the built in Excel spreadsheet viewer is that it doesn't display excel files as well as android's stock viewer.

Pretty much sums up the whole experience

It's just so limited in capability and clunky.

It might not do what you want, but it's not yet failed to do anything I want 🙂

A lot of the stuff mentioned above works fine for me. No dropped calls, I like the swipe keyboard and Bluetooth works great for music, satnav, calls and texts in my car, on my motorcycle and using a Sony Bluetooth headphone adaptor. Lack of apps can be a problem but all my needs are met so not an issue for me. I really like windows phone and I've had everything except Blackberry.

Edit to add I guess I was lucky Garmin did make a WP app for the Virb. Handy to check camera alignment sometimes.

I've been using WPs since WP7 and the only thing out of that lot that I've ever noticed is my new 930 cant change the search engine from Bing, but it's a MS phone, what do you expect? Add a live tile to Google.com and we're good to go.

FWIW I use RunTheMap to record bike rides then upload to Strava manually. Dead easy and a really nice app to use.

This is a strange position for MS to be in. While I think Windows 10 is pretty decent (although it really could do with some UI coherency work) a part of me does think 'karma' in the way they have behaved in the past.

induction charging is the only thing i miss from my lumia- and i miss it in a biiiiig way - i finally went back to an iphone after 9 months - I gave it a try as i really wanted it to work, but alas it wasnt to be

I agree app support is what lets it down as well as some other quirks such as having to have a windows live account to use twitter - why, why, why ?

cp - Member

few highlights...

** No means of in-line reply edits to emails
** No means of saving to phone any attachments which the phone wont natively open.
** Very very poor webpage rendering - a lot of web pages don't render (wiggle product pages are prime example, along with many many others)
** Maps app (content) is poor compared to google maps. google maps doesn't render very well at all in the browser (well documented issue)

This hints more at user error than anything else!

Well my windows phone does all that and No dropped calls, I like the swipe keyboard, the mapping is great and Bluetooth works as it should.

Anyway you've strayed off topic somewhat, so steering it back would be nice.

All the OSs have their faults. Having used the three main ones, WP is comfortably my favourite to use (apart from the shortage of certain apps and a couple of other specific quirks: being forced to use IE Mobile, for instance). Each to their own.

Anyway, as far as bike stuff is concerned I have a separate, waterproof Android phone, which also doubles as my music library thanks to accepting a 128GB card. You can get Android phones cheap enough and there's no harm in a little redundancy when you're out on the hills/roads.

my windows phone does all that

Enlighten me, how do you do inline replies in the native email app?

How do you save attachments that the phone won't natively open?

When I say maps content is rubbish I mean when you search for stuff like nearby ATMs... Google maps gets you close ones, windows maps shows you ones 20 miles away as being the closest.

Posting that reminds me of another ' feature' cursor selection when you just want to reposition the cursor in s text box is rubbish.

I really liked my Lumia phone, and I even liked the BlackBerry Z10 I had for work. Sadly the lack of apps just wore me down, and I now have Android for both home and work.

The only thing I miss is the BlackBerry seemed to help me file e-mails in the right place. Sony Z1 Compact and Samsung S6 Edge for home and work respectively.

What don't get is. If there are so many apps converting to a windows phone then it surely cant be that hard. Why don't strava/garmin just go ahead and do it.

Or am I being simplistic.

What don't get is. If there are so many apps converting to a windows phone then it surely cant be that hard. Why don't strava/garmin just go ahead and do it.

Could be loads of reasons, contractual, security/OS limitations, cost etc

I had to install the new garmin connect app on Android which then failed to connect with the Garmin 810 and spat the dummy at doing anything without a data connection. Some bigger issues out there. The USB cable is still king.

Not wanting to get involved in the actual OS side of things. However I use an app called cyclers that integrates with Strava and I actually prefer the interface.
YMMV.

What don't get is. If there are so many apps converting to a windows phone then it surely cant be that hard. Why don't strava/garmin just go ahead and do it.

Or am I being simplistic.

Because it takes time and effort to make sure it will be a stable app that wont damage their reputation, and compared to the market it would generate its not worth it. Thats why a lot of apps dont even bother with android and its ever changing target. Develop for apple, stable market (platform) for many generations of device and forwards compatible.

being forced to use IE Mobile

There are other browsers. UC browser is one.

I'm just peeved because i'm tracking the delivery of my new Garmin on my windows phone.

[i]"There are other browsers. UC browser is one.[/i]"

Aye, and I've got it. It's nice. But whenever you click a link from anywhere outside UC (emails, search results etc) you get sent to IE. Which means using anything other than IE is a big ol' PITA.

STATO - Member

Because it takes time and effort to make sure it will be a stable app that wont damage their reputation,

Well, they (Garmin) haven't managed to create stable software for their actual devices yet, so I won't hold my breath on them creating a stable app.

Thats why a lot of apps dont even bother with android and its ever changing target.

True to a point, but I think the bigger reason is that Apple users are a significantly stronger revenue stream in terms of app purchases. Some developers' points of diminishing returns kick in sooner than others'.

Aye, and I've got it. It's nice. But whenever you click a link from anywhere outside UC (emails, search results etc) you get sent to IE. Which means using anything other than IE is a big ol' PITA.

Hmm yeah.. 'intents' are one of Android's best features IMO.

True to a point, but I think the bigger reason is that Apple users are a significantly stronger revenue stream in terms of app purchases. Some developers' points of diminishing returns kick in sooner than others'.

There are far fewer apps overall on Windows Phone, but there is a fairly high proportion of decent ones and they're generally free or a sensible price. A decent app on iOS is nearly always chargeable or full of ads which can only be ditched with an in-app purchase.

Yep iOS gets all the big spenders, so anyone wanting to make money out of Apps picks iOS first. Windows mobile has become little more than a footnote in the mobile world.

Has become a footnote? It was always a minor thing.. It is bigger now than it was though I suspect.