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Just had a chap round to quote us for a run of fencing out the front. we need...

7 x arched 4ft panels
7x 1ft gravel boards
8 6 ft concrete posts.

This lot including fitting came to £1350 ???

Does that seem expensive or not?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 8:59 pm
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installed and treated?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:00 pm
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Yes sorry treated and installed.

Edit.... 1 x 6 foot panel and 6 x 3ft panels


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:02 pm
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Yes it does.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:02 pm
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Seems pricey... work it out from AVS Fencing and you'll be able to see how much his day rate is


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:03 pm
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round here id say

panels about £30 each (actually £26.50)

boards £10

posts £12-15

so i reckon £400 of materials

and I'd get my mate do do it, prob a days work for 2 blokes (mates rates) £200

so i'd be paying £600,, plus bit more for cement/ballast etc

2 blokes should get that done in a day - unless they have to remove old stuff first


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:03 pm
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My quick reckoning is between £500 and £600 on materials at Wickes prices.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:05 pm
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300mm concrete gravel boards ? Oh and before everyone starts going on about the price I expect most of the keyboard warriors couldn't even lift a concrete post. For what its worth cost would be approx 1K.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:06 pm
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Maybe the man has to pay tax, eat, feed and clothe his family and maybe make a small profit so he can buy some bike bits with the free cash. Or is that not allowed on here?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:06 pm
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sounds expensive to me, yes. I had a chap build a 6ft high overlapped board fence that's the length of about 8 6ft wide panels + a gate for £800.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:07 pm
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you need to get some more quotes

We had pretty much the same as you want (but straight, not curved panels) and was about £500 a couple of years ago. Ans that's in the expensive SE badlands


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:07 pm
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We are getting more quotes.

Breakdown is 850 materials and 500 labour


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:09 pm
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Find a local firm that makes everything themselves, way cheaper as they aren't buying in


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:10 pm
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Ive worked it our roughly at Welch garden supplies at just under £350 for materials not including post crete


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:10 pm
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About 8 yrs ago it cost me around £120 per panel for a 50m run of 1.5m curved pressure treated panels like yours; concrete posts and gravel boards; fitted. Sounds a bit pricey to me, stuff like this hasn't gone up much since 2007. Pays to get it done well tho.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:11 pm
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[quote=renton ]Ive worked it our roughly at Welch garden supplies at just under £350 for materials not including post crete

well crack on and do it yourself, why get quotes if you are going shop online?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:16 pm
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well crack on and do it yourself, why get quotes if you are going shop online?

The simple fact of being 9 hours and 500 miles away is the reason Im not !!


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:21 pm
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We had ours done recently..

2 sides 9 x 6' panels + concrete posts and gravel boards

We had 3 quotes and they were all around £1800-2000


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:23 pm
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I expect most of the keyboard warriors couldn't even lift a concrete post

I ordered a batch of these bad boys for our fence:

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**** me, they we're heavy, a real struggle to lift to height to drop into the hole. The guy who (loaded &) delivered them wasn't too impressed.

All the timber i used (treated larch cant rails, overlap & boards) came direct from local forest & local saw mill.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:26 pm
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Sounds reasonable to me. I had a whole rear garden make over very recently which involved two guys working very hard for two weeks. I like a project - but I cannot lay circular patios or bricks or want to remove huge concrete laden posts. Sometimes other people have more expertise and tools than you.

You have to weigh up quality of outcome with cost.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:33 pm
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Is he getting rid of an old fence too, landfill costs are not insignificant for commercial operators, how easy is it to access the site?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:34 pm
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Bear hugging those^ caused me many a holed t-shirt (and bad backs). Quote doesn't seem too bad, just make sure you order the right size though Renton.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:35 pm
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There is nothing to get rid of as its just a little bit of land that people keep cutting across or dumping rubbish on!


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:38 pm
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What's the ground like? Does anything have to be removed, replaced or disposed of? Is there easy access?

Your first two posts indicate you're not quite sure what's being fitted. The fencer may be covering the possibility of buggeration...


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:43 pm
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There will be a slight addition to the cost to cover unforseen circumstances.
It's simple, pay someone to do a decent job, pay someone a budget price to do a budget job or do it yourself.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:46 pm
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This the famous bit of land that your deeds say you cant put a fence up on ?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:49 pm
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There is nothing to get rid of as its just a little bit of land that people keep cutting across or dumping rubbish on!

In that case you probably don't need the Rolls Royce fence you've specced. Metal fence post concreted in at each end and any corner. One roll of 4ft chainlink and a few intermediate posts driven in. Three tension wires per run.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:50 pm
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There are a couple of tree stumps on the ground where a couple of fir's were cut down but he has said they are not where the fence will be going.

Nothing else apart from mud.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:50 pm
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He obviously thinks he can charge good money for his erection...


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:51 pm
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Trail rat do try and keep up.... that bit of land was the front garden at my old house.

This is the front garden at my new house, down the left side is/was fir trees that have been cut down as they were blocking the light into the front of the house.

The patch of land is now open onto an alleyway down the side and people are now cutting across it and dumping rubbish etc.

We want the arched fence panels as there are already some down the side of the house and this run will continue on from that to the edge of our land.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 9:56 pm
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A rented property? so its an allowable expense if it is.

So it wont cost you anything in reality.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:00 pm
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Get some more quotes. I've seen plenty of fences that have been done quickly only to blow over during the first winter. It can take a while to dig a decent hole for a fence post if there's roots and big stones every few inches.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:05 pm
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This is the front garden at my new house, down the left side is/was fir trees that have been cut down as they were blocking the light into the front of the house.

So there may be roots involved?


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:05 pm
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This is land in question......

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Fence will continue off this one.....

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Posted : 31/05/2015 10:06 pm
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After seeing those pics I reckon youre getting a fair price.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:11 pm
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Should be able to knock that up in a day.
Seems a little excessive pricewise however there's a "premium" charge as most home owners won't do fencing/hedging as it's too much hassle.
Tim


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:15 pm
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I did the fence at my previous house on 3 sides with a couple of mate and it went up ok.

To far away to do this one unfortunately


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:19 pm
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That border does look like a world of pain, roots and hassle. If you could get it cleared back to bare earth you might get a kinder quote.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:21 pm
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[quote=midlifecrashes ]That border does look like a world of pain, roots and hassle. If you could get it cleared back to bare earth you might get a kinder quote.

This ^


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:23 pm
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The chap did say the stumps and roots wouldn't be a problem though.

Do you think his Labour charge is fair at 500.

Would it likely go up if we supplied our own materials.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:25 pm
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Worth a try, but I think the hassle and pain of the roots has been priced into the job.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:44 pm
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Yup. I'd probably price it similar unless I was desperate for the work. Don't know about the materials but for two of us I'd err on the side of caution and price for two days work. Probably wouldn't take two but could easily be more than one. There are easier ways of making a living.


 
Posted : 31/05/2015 10:49 pm
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4ft panels, 1ft gravel board and 6ft posts...I see a problem already..where is the fence-line..where the stumps are? What panels ate you using? there's many different sorts, scoreboard, woven etc..

Where's the job?


 
Posted : 01/06/2015 1:18 am
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Tymbian... Job is in Droitwich Worcestershire.

The bloke said that the stumps aren't in the way so not a problem.

The border is actually quite clean between the path and mud. It just needs sweeping up so you can see it.

We are after arched panels, 1 @ 6ft and 6 @ 3ft.


 
Posted : 01/06/2015 9:55 am
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The chap did say the stumps and roots wouldn't be a problem though.

not a problem, just what you are paying him to deal with.
you seem to think he's too expensive. just go and get some more quotes.
personally I'm not afraid to pay someone to do a job to a reasonable standard and earn a living. YMMV.
500 quid:
1) turn up to quote for a job you may not get.
2) spec, arrange and supply materials on account.
3) run van and pay for tools, be an employer, or pay a loaded rate to a colleague.
4) accept liability and correct any problems later.
5) feed and cloth the kids.
6) chase non-payers and fail to get any money at all out of some people.


 
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