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No complaints with my 12 year old Panasonic plasma!!The dark scenes made me wish Id stuck with my old plasma TV, handled black colour so much better than LED or OLED
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off – that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes.
Erm, she has to kill em before she can take their faces – not sure Bran would have been up for that.
Brad still alive (otherwise the night king may have sensed his death) but behind the tree zoned out with his face cut off. That would have been more GoT than the actual ending!
Yeah they've been building up Arya for ages, obvious she had a big part to play so not really surprised.
I did think maybe the NK fight would be a little more drawn out with possibly some of the other WW getting involved somewhere along the way.
On the whole though I was gripped for the entire episode, glad some of the bigger characters have made in through to finish the story off gradually over the remaining episodes - rather than most of them getting cut-down within a few minutes.
Looking forward to what's left...
I did think maybe the NK fight would be a little more drawn out with possibly some of the other WW getting involved somewhere along the way.
To be fair, every fight to date with a WW has been really short. I don’t think they’re particularly skilled fighters .
Other than Jon at Hardhome, every other encounter has been either steel sword shatters followed by a fatal stab by WW or living person delivers fatal stab with dragonglass or valyrian steel.
Looked good on my Panasonic Plasma/Sky HD (though still hard to work out what was going on) but the dark scenes have been a great demonstration of just how bad overcompressed SD content can look
https://twitter.com/firefawkes/status/1122948578727661568
The Night King was always going to be a bit of a let down - the interesting story is the battle for the thone. Unkillable enemies have to die somehow and his army did take out most of the Northern forces (even if sparing far more of the main characters than expected).
I'm still at a bit of a loss over the Night King/Bran story. Bran didn't actually seem to present him any real danger, nor did it seem he would have gained a load more power. What was the point of Bran warging into the Ravens? He didn't bring back any info, that wasnt what drew the Night King to him?
Also, what happened to the wolf? They made a big thing in the last episode of showing it was back and with Jon on the battlefield but nothing of it in the actual battle...
Also, what happened to the wolf?
Charged with the Dothraki. Never came back.
It was spotted in the preview for next week though.
Well I thought hat was epic! But the best thing about it was the score, and I'm surprised it's not been mentioned yet, Ramin Djawadi is a genius.
The first 45 mins was pretty much as expected, although the Dothraki's lights going out was particularly chilling. The last 30 mins absolutely flew by, helped by that score setting it up, I couldn't believe the time. Great ending and hopefully an episode to take stock then another battle for KL and the throne. Brilliant telly!! 😀
Bran is a bit annoying now. I hope they explain why he took the crow joyride? Are we going to see the wolf pack coming into play?
So will Arya be the one to kill Cersei?
The Red Which talked about eye colour - Arya twigged she needed to off the NK when see said blue eyes, but whose are the green eyes?
Cersei is supposed to have green eyes, has she killed anyone else with green eyes?
What happened to Tormund? We didn't see much of him.
Good to see Theon redeem himself too.
Ramin Djawadi is a genius.
Yup - loved his Westworld work...
What happened to Tormund? We didn’t see much of him.
I couldn't see him but could hear him grunting occationally.
Good grief what is going on with that image above that's terrible?
Bran isn't Bran anymore, he's the Three Eyed Raven and has all the memories of humankind. The Night King wants to wipe out humanity and all those memories. That's why his mission was to get Bran. Everything else was just a sideshow to him.
There is a difference between a Zombie plot line and a major character who comes back – not as a Zombie – after being killed off at the end of a season.
Yeah, I believed it all until that happened.
Great representation of a Singletrack thread. Game of thrones discussion, let's talk about the telly, surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on 😀
I watched it in a massive chair made from hundreds of bike frames of my defeated enemies.
surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on
I watched it on a comfy settee with the window open as it was a nice day, it was just like being outside.
Good grief what is going on with that image above that’s terrible?
I would guess either:
1) It's a photo of someone's telly.
2) The owner of said telly turned the brightness allllll the way up to try to see, what they weren't supposed to be able to see.
For what it's worth, I watched it on NowTV (1080p via an LG 42" 4K LCD TV fans) and it was very good, apart from being dark, which it was supposed to be, especially at the point in the story above when the audience was supposed to be shocked at the mighty dothraki (I'm not sure of the spelling) each represented by a light in the darkness of night, all being extinguished one-by-one by a scary, unseen enemy.
The owner of said telly turned the brightness allllll the way up to try to see, what they weren’t supposed to be able to see.
Seems that way that is terrible.
I have an achy back so I watched it on a computer monitor lying flat on my back in bed. It has the benefit that I'm already in bed if the episode turns out to be a snoozefest. Couldn't see much of what was going on though. Anyone else notice that it was really dark and hard to make out?
Anyone else notice that it was really dark and hard to make out?
I think it's your laptop mate, no one else has mentioned anything like that. In fact I was only saying to the wife this morning that, about half way through I wanted to grab my Sunnies to try to block out some of the glare.
For what it’s worth, I watched it on NowTV (1080p via an LG 42″ 4K LCD TV fans)
NowTV will have presented your telly with 720p - they don't broadcast in 1080.
The Night King was always going to be a bit of a let down – the interesting story is the battle for the thone. Unkillable enemies have to die somehow and his army did take out most of the Northern forces (even if sparing far more of the main characters than expected).
I disagree, OK granted the show is called Game of Thrones and it's really about who sits on the Iron throne which I don't think the NK ever cared about but the NK was the aspect that could have stopped the usual merry-go-round of Westeros kings & queens. Apart from the NK being defeated nothing's happened that hasn't happened many times before with different characters.
The whole Winter is Coming thing now just seems like a minor side-story, could have cut out a season or two and just wrapped it up early if it's all just going to be about Cersei vs Jon/Dany. I'm hoping it's more complicated than that and there will be some interesting twist in the final few episodes but I'm losing faith.
Its even better 2nd time around with the room set up darker 🙂
let’s talk about the telly, surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on 😀
I’m surprised nobody has gone for full STW points and come into the thread just to say they don’t even own a TV
The whole Winter is Coming thing now just seems like a minor side-story, could have cut out a season or two and just wrapped it up early if it’s all just going to be about Cersei vs Jon/Dany.
Winter is still coming. Just because the NK is dead doesn't mean that the long winter isn't going to happen. It could be more portentous as to mean that the Starks are coming. As is always convenient I'm sure they'll find some more troops to march South.
As for missing a couple of seasons it's always been about the journey though the destination promises to be a doozy too. I'm curious did you binge watch or watched as broadcast? I've watched it all as broadcast but started boxset watching again. Does take a different perspective I reckon.
Its even better 2nd time around with the room set up darker
The crappy stream quality hasn't helped - kept getting distracted by visual artefacts in the dark scenes. Will have to decide if I actually want to fork out for a Blu Ray copy when it gets released...
haters gonna hate, but this one is a bit more tongue in cheek...
https://www.wired.com/story/game-of-thrones-winterfell-battle-tactical-analysis/
surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on
I watched on the throne.
Has the added benefit that I'm already in position to take a massive dump if I need to express my opinion of a poor episode.
I watched on the throne.
Whilst doing the ironing?
As for missing a couple of seasons it’s always been about the journey though the destination promises to be a doozy too. I’m curious did you binge watch or watched as broadcast? I’ve watched it all as broadcast but started boxset watching again. Does take a different perspective I reckon
Broadcast apart from re-watching a few episodes as they're on Sky all the time :p
I think so far GoT has been one of the best things on TV and certainly don't wish it was shorter, it's just as the pace of the show has picked up and the story condensed as the characters come together it's now starting to feel rushed and what could have been much longer wrap-ups are being done in a couple of hours. Unless I'm wrong and ep 4 starts with Jon in the shower having dreamt ep 3 and the NK's actually still alive we're talking about a being that's existed for thousands of years (although it's not clear how many NK's there have been), with an undead dragon at his disposal (which he's probably not had in previous historic battles with the first men etc.) and he only lasts a couple of hours in the first major battle since coming south of the wall. If the NK was only ever a plot device to thin down the Northern forces before a final battle for the Iron throne then it all seems a bit meh building up the mystery and seeming importance of the character.
I'm hoping I'm proven wrong and there's more to it left in the series, if not I still think the NK going south to defeat Cersei whilst the WW + wights took on Winterfell would have been a better plot. We could have them thinking they'd almost defeated the undead army at Winterfell (killing WW's etc.) only for the NK to show up with the risen golden company for a big last battle with some proper main characters getting offed and Arya doing her thing just as all hope is lost.
Well, I honestly thought it was all a bit underwhelming.
he only lasts a couple of hours in the first major battle
Well that was his problem. In his first major battle he ponced in giving it the big I am, but crucially overlooked the fact that Team Living had about a gazillion fancy black dragonglass blades able to pop him with single poke. You don't go far in today's harsh economic climate with that kind of attitude. Night King? Seen one, seen em all.
The best thing about it was the score, and I’m surprised it’s not been mentioned yet, Ramin Djawadi is a genius.
Disagree, the score was way too loud and way too prevalent. The battle scenes would’ve been much more terrifying and tense with minimal score work.
I hate it when they attempt to add tension with music, it’s a lazy method.
NowTV will have presented your telly with 720p – they don’t broadcast in 1080.
They sent it to mine at 352x288 I reckon.
I thought my lad was playing minecraft.
Yes. The very first scene in ep1 was of WW so it's clearly pivotal to the whole plot. "Game of Thrones" is only the title of the first book and not the series as a whole - at this point most of the characters do not understand the full extent of the threat from the NK. The title of the series "A Song of Ice & Fire" alludes to Starks/Targaryens and/or The NK/dragons.I disagree, OK granted the show is called Game of Thrones and it’s really about who sits on the Iron throne which I don’t think the NK ever cared about but the NK was the aspect that could have stopped the usual merry-go-round of Westeros kings & queens. Apart from the NK being defeated nothing’s happened that hasn’t happened many times before with different characters.
IMO of course. Hopefully there'll be something more to come with the Bran storyline, would be disappointing if not!
Hopefully there’ll be something more to come with the Bran storyline, would be disappointing if not!
Yeah, cos he's been riveting to watch so far. At one point I thought their secret plan was to get Bran to drone on to the Night King that much that he killed himself.
I agree with :-
Cor, that was intense!
(chestrockwell)
That was utterly epic and I loved every second of it. The start was fantastic, with the waiting and the tension. My heart!
(howsyourdad1)
Epic 😀 One of the most intense things I’ve seen on telly or film, due to the fact I’m ridiculously emotionally invested in it after all these years of build-up
(zilog6128)
and last but not least:-
Bloody hell! There’s just no pleasing some people! Is there anything in your life that isn’t disappointing?
It was an epic piece of telly! I felt exhausted after watching it, it was so tense.
(Binners)
Roll on next week for the full body count. 🙂
The battle scenes would’ve been much more terrifying and tense with minimal score work.
Like the silence they used during the initial slaughter? Can't really blame Djawadi for the sound mixing, the music used as things seemed to be going from bad to worse pretty much nailed it imo (even if it did sound suspiciously like stuff he'd done for Westworld)
Really that ep just needed some sharks for the dragons to jump over and it would have been complete!
Really that ep just needed some sharks for the dragons to jump over and it would have been complete!
Are you saying that after 70 episodes, GoT has peaked and will only decline now for the final 3?
Or do you just not understand what 'jumping the shark' means and you didn't enjoy it as much as you hoped?
I will only accept the aforementioned sharks if they are zombies.
As long as there's no more Sheeran I'm not all that bothered what type of shark. (The shark jumpy thing has been said by others earlier on this thread. I'd note that it's generally towards the end of a good run that series tend to do this.)
Also, acting notes: Jamie Lanister trying to project past that fringe - the hair's still a take on Disney prince I'll grant you. But he couldn't quite do it. Sansa Stark: that accent has never gone far north of the King's Road, never mind King's Landing. When she pulled out that dagger I swore for a sec it was a mobile.
It was ace.
but...
Didn't like the NK's smirk at finding himself dragon-breath-proof
Didn't like how smudged the near-black was
Too many people lived - probably - depends how good their deaths are later 🙂
Didn’t like the NK’s smirk at finding himself dragon-breath-proof
You'd be smirking too after all that fire. (Ashington joke)
If I was being picky....I did wonder how both the Dothraki hoardes and also Grey Worms mob( can’t think what are called) we’re wiped out pretty quickly by dead people who mostly had no weapons. Especially when they’re weapons were all prepared for them.
It’s a numbers game...
we’re wiped out pretty quickly by dead people who mostly had no weapons
Did you notice they were looking up and the camera upward too? Plus there were thousands of them.
It’s a numbers game…
But it also the same illogical principle that takes 5 police officers to immobile 1 drunkard intent on punching someone - now add to that a manic primeval desire to kill you by whatever means necessary with zero inhibitions including their own injury or death x many thousand.
I did think the unsullied were pretty cool under that pressure, it’s convinced me not having sex ever again might be a great idea for pre race nerves.
it’s convinced me not having sex ever again might be a great idea for pre race nerve
Thinking of getting married then?
Right then, what's you predictions for the end?
Mine are:
Sansa & Tyrion end up married.
Dani ends up on the Iron throne.
John ends up as 'king in the north'
Sam is hand of the king in the north.
Bron kills Jamie - Brianne kills Bron.
Arya takes Jamie's face and kills Cersei.
Yara kills Captain Camp & takes the Iron Islands.
Hound kills Mountain.
Arya and Gendry will be the marriage of Stark & Baratheon that was talked about at the beginning.
After Jamie's demise Brianne and Tormund will live happily ever after and have giant babies.....
No idea where Bran fits in.....
Dani gets killed the dragon kills everyone.
I don’t think either John or Daenerys will end up on the throne. Cersei will die. Gendry for king.
Sansa gets burned by Dani for plotting against her.
No idea where Bran fits in…..
I think his usefulness (or uselessness) has come to an end. That part of the story is over.
I’d say the most unexpected thing about the series for me so far is that the Night King thing ended before the whole ‘who’s king / Queen’ thing, I thought it would be the other way around.
No idea where Bran fits in…..
In the roots of a heart tree.
My moneys on Aragorn being the king !
now add to that a manic primeval desire to kill you by whatever means necessary with zero inhibitions including their own injury or death x many thousand.
Super zombie-strength too. At least they did in the books; don't recall if this was ever demonstrated in the show.
Arya has a bastard child who turns out to be the Prince that was Promised.
Well, that last episode was epic! Watched it yesterday evening having avoided anything GoT on the internet since Monday and I was blown away by everything about it - the cinematography, direction, production and the score.
It was like some of the finest moments of depression: bleak, desolate and full of hopeless despair and when the flamed NK raised his hands, I really thought that that was it, despite knowing there’s another three episodes left.
To the usual naysayers on here, I really do wonder what would make you happy? In fact, are you happy with your lives? Probably not.
As for the darkness, well it’s the Night King, he brings the night, hence its dark and stormy and everything that a dark and stormy winter night brings with it. Honestly, it’s not difficult. Clues in the name, get over it.
As for the end scene, I wasn’t expecting Arya to be the one, trick move too.
If I were to take a punt as to what happens next, I reckon the Lannister/Greyell armies are parked up just south of Winterfell, waiting to take on whoever came out on top, possibly with that highly explosive green stuff that Cersei used to blow up the Brotherhood with.
Either way, there’s to be at least one more skirmish to take out a few more major players. Remember kids, don’t get attached to anyone in GoT! 😁
As for the end scene, I wasn’t expecting Arya to be the one, trick move too.
I currently can't transfer an item from one hand to the other without doing the Arya drop. Ok with a toothbrush but the phone's in some jeopardy.
I am quite a sad individual, aren't I?
Remember kids, don’t get attached to anyone in GoT!
Everyone talks about this 'in true GOT fashion' but there have hardly been any unexpected deaths really. can only think of 3 shockers; Nedders, Joff and Viperman? oh and the red wedding too i suppose 😀
all the other mainstays have survived far too long...
Also, didnt Cersei use all her supplies of wild fire to light up the sept? she has however got a big dockoff dragon gun!!
Everyone talks about this ‘in true GOT fashion’ but there have hardly been any unexpected deaths really. can only think of 3 shockers; Nedders, Joff and Viperman? oh and the red wedding too i suppose
Tommen?
Princess Shireen?
Everyone talks about this ‘in true GOT fashion’ but there have hardly been any unexpected deaths really
Of the top of my head, Renly, Stannis' daughter, a dragon, everyone in Baelors sept, Tommen, Walder Frey, all came as a surprise.
Rickon?
Roose Bolton?
Shae?
Lysa?
Viserys Targaeryan (less so, he had it coming...)
etc etc
Pfft you can't just list every death, otherwise what about soldier #155 in the Battle of the Bastards?
Personally I think only Ned Stark, the Red Wedding and Vis the dragon came as a "woah" surprise (as in both unexpected and an interesting twist, although even then it was fairly obvious at least one dragon would die by the end of the show, it was more the resurrection part in that case).
Sure lots of characters with fairly big roles have been killed off but you can hardly think it was a surprise when, for example, Joffrey was bumped off when he was. OK I didn't see Shireen's death coming but hardly an important character. None of that makes GoT special for killing off big characters - part of it is GoT has so many big characters it can afford to/needs to kill some off
otherwise what about soldier #155 in the Battle of the Bastards?
That was a nasty one. No-one expects to go like that. 🙂
Thing is, you expect people to die horribly and/or suddenly in GoT - which is why it's described as in 'true GoT fashion'. Characters are just having a lovely chat, and suddenly they're knifed to death by the bastard son they've just promoted, or chucked out of the sky door with little warning.
I mean, Stannis' daughter...you kept thinking, nah, this isn't going to happen, even someone like Stannis can't burn a charming child character at the stake...
Even if they don't kill people, true GoT fashion can include cutting off the Disney Prince's hand out of the blue.
Tommen defo shocked me at the time! Yes, when you look at them in retrospect, lots of the deaths are “obvious” as they fit in with the narrative, but when they happen so quickly before you have time to process what’s going on plenty have left me feeling “whoa”!
Arya takes Jamie’s face and kills Cersei.
Good shout.
Thing is, Cersei's got it in for Jamie now, so might not be the helpful disguise it has been for the other six series.
I thought it were bloody great!
It was good as I had hoped it would even without any shock deaths
I can't think of any missteps really, everything plausible and canonical in the GOT, possibly aside from the night kings smirk
I like the fact that Jon snow wasnt decisive really and just got pinned down by the ice dragon, like it was his first go at an end of level boss in a computer game and he just needed to hit restart, although he got away with doing that when he was resurrected I spose
Maybe Cersei will keep on the iron throne. Would not be a bad ending; she HAS worked the hardest to get there 😀 I don’t really hold with all this “birthright” or true king/Queen crap.
Have you seen that there is to be a Jane Goldman written spin-off to GoT?
https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/game-of-thrones/58318/game-of-thrones-spin-off-prequel-news
I'm just disappointed that nobody has yet realized that Jon Snow is the worst military leader since Sir William Elphinstone and stuck a knife in him before he tries any more silly charges across open ground. Every military force he has led has been wiped out. Now that the Red Witch is gone, a quick shiv to the kidneys and he'd be gone for good. He's a crap actor too.
Arya and Gendry will be the marriage of Stark & Baratheon that was talked about at the beginning.
Nah, Arya will die.
Arya takes Jamie’s face and kills Cersei.
Arya takes Qyburns face and kills Cersei immediately after Jamie can't do it and Cersei kills Jamie.
The Mountain tries to kill Arya but she legs it and he chases her.
They fight and just as the Mountain is about to kill her, the Hound intervenes.
BOOM! ....Cleganebowl....but not because the Hound wants revenge, he's past that now.
It's to save Arya. He's her dog now.
Varys seems to have been just about written out of the show now- wondering whether he has any part to play in what's to come- considering the impact of his manipulation in the early days.
We've still three shows to go, I reckon there's going to be a few deaths by assassination and a fair bit of politics and skullduggery. Would be disappointed if a battle for Kings Landing is the highlight of what's to come.
I’m sure it’ll be good & I’ll watch it obviously, it does sound like more of the same tho tbh with a very similar plot.Have you seen that there is to be a Jane Goldman written spin-off to GoT?
The better/braver choice IMO would’ve been to tell a much bigger range of stories; they could’ve had each season telling a different story with different characters like in American Horror Stories. Even better, every episode is self-contained, with a couple of characters travelling around, meeting people who’ve been mentioned in the books but not seen, righting wrongs etc like a medieval A-team. [i]No-one[/i] makes telly like this anymore, it’s all got to be massive story arcs now etc. (GRRM has written a series of novellas where this happens so there’s both precedent and source material!)
It’s to save Arya. He’s her dog now.
Warning nerd content...
In the books, Ayra is all about wolves. she dreams about them, howls at them and they respond, she's a warg and can enter their minds, is linked with Nymeria...In an epilogue of one of the books (don't ask, can't remember) there's this strange stuff about how when wargs die, their souls enter their connected animals, In Ayra case that's running with her pack...
plus, y'know, Valar Morghulis
Varys seems to have been just about written out of the show now- wondering whether he has any part to play in what’s to come- considering the impact of his manipulation in the early days.
Was thinking that. I imagine he'll hotfoot it to the overseas bank and get them to switch sides so the Golden Company army is no longer available to Cersei. So it will come down to the Lannister forces and Euron (who will run away and be killed by Yara) vs the rest.