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Aunt and Nephew but yeah not such a shocking thing in the GoT world
And perhaps more importantly, already the living result of the big north and south houses coming together.
Everyone all partime fans in here I take it? 😆 All-sorts of awesome!
Nope - got up at 2 ! Not the outcome I expected!! Got to love a bit of Valyrian steel! I hope you all have a decent tv with true blacks!!!
edit that out dc2.0. Leave the spoilers till tomorrow.
Although you’d need to be mad reading this thread today if you haven’t watched it!
Well, where do we go from here then? That can't be it...
jimdubleyou
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Well, where do we go from here then? That can’t be it…
well the show is called game of thrones... 😆
4 hours left.
Cor, that was intense!
It was pretty good, the usual dubious tactical decisions notwithstanding! I'm not commenting more for now, I see someone's already driven past the cinema queue shouting "Snape kills Dumbledore".
Does anybody else think this show has jumped the shark a bit ?
There is a fine line between palace intigue and Mexican Soap Opera and I think we have found it.
Now that Jon Snow has come back from the dead and it turns out he is whatserface's nephew, it can't be long before we find out that it was all a dream Dr Drake Ramorez' evil identical twin brother Stryker had in the shower.
“Snape kills Dumbledore”.
Hey is this a crossover episode?
I've a different attitude to GoT spoilers. I don't read fantasy bollocks but after seeing an episode bought the first book and as a fast reader, easily addicted and with zero self-control, read the rest (in private, obviously). So as the series has been pretty faithful I've always had a good idea who's going to get offed, when and how. I think this has if anything made me enjoy watching along even more. But then I never did like mild peril.
(Just watched Band of Brothers - 'Bob' in our house and probably many others - for the first time, not spoiled by knowing the Americans win. Singlehandedly.)
So as the series has been pretty faithful I’ve always had a good idea who’s going to get offed, when and how.
Nah. Well, up until about Season 4 or maybe bits of 5. The TV series has long outstripped the timeline in the books so it's been spoilerable for a few years even for readers. And there are a lot of people who're watching GoT who've never opened one of the books.
Of course, anyone reading one of these threads is being a bit unwise.
hels
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Does anybody else think this show has jumped the shark a bit ?
Nope!
I’ve just watched it and I’m none the wiser as to what actually happened.
It was so bloody dark all the time that I couldn’t see what the hell was going on.
I’m going to have to go and get spoilers from t’internet to see what the hell it was that I just witnessed. ☹️
I’ll watch it again tonight in a darkened room with night vision goggles
Well that was an improvement at first I thought 'oh here we have go predictable dragons swoop in' but then it gets pretty ****ed up, intense in places for my night shift brain to take in. Then the good old not entirely unexpected but epicly presented end, it's more like the earlier series episode closing scene.
Yeah pity anyone with a poor TV though I ended up closing the curtains as it's blue skies today and the sun was bouncing of things onto the TV.
Does anybody else think this show has jumped the shark a bit ?
Recently, or back when they started resurrecting the dead, etc?
Recently, or back when they started resurrecting the dead, etc?
Pretty much a key tenet of the plot from the get-go, not so much a water skiing Fonzee.
There is a difference between a Zombie plot line and a major character who comes back - not as a Zombie - after being killed off at the end of a season. That smacks of contract negotiations, and is the (to labour the reference) equivalent of a fall down a lift shaft for actros who got above themselves.
I guess we will have to wait and see who killed JR until the end.
There is a difference between a Zombie plot line and a major character who comes back –
He's not the only one who's been resurrected by a red cleric and isn't a zombie. And, if I recall correctly, that all happened before Snow got got.
There is a difference between a Zombie plot line and a major character who comes back – not as a Zombie – after being killed off at the end of a season.
Except for the fact that they had been resurrecting characters in the novels more than a decade before the pilot episode of the TV show?
I must say, I wasn’t expecting the end we got, but it does hopefully at least get us back to the plotting and intrigue, the reason I love the show so much. I so much more enjoyed watching the demise of Littlefinger, than the preceding BotB.
That smacks of contract negotiations
I'm no super fan as do think it's massively overrated but I'm sure I read or heard that this is one show that never had contracts that required both parties to agree to bumping off a character.
I’ve just watched it and I’m none the wiser as to what actually happened.
It was so bloody dark all the time that I couldn’t see what the hell was going on.
This for me, although the demise of the Night King seemed a little "easy" for me. I mean, one minute Arya's struggle to move around Winterfell, the next she's able to go through it, out sneak through many zombies and attack him, killing him with a single stab wound shortly after he'd been engulfed by Dragon Fire and survived. I appreciate it was a magic knife.
Lol at the folks finding it hard to believe some of the plot lines. It’s all made up fantasy 😉
I’ve just watched it and now I’ve got a headache! I think it was all that time peering into the darkness!
Unexpectedly good ending gets the series back on track for more Cersei! 😋
That was utterly epic and I loved every second of it. The start was fantastic, with the waiting and the tension. My heart!
Well that hurt my eyes way to much ... but im convinced more than ever were going to see the end as we did in the start the two main houses sitting upon`t throne
Well, that was ****ing bloody. Didn't get the charge of the light brigade at the beginning, should have kept the horses hidden in the trees with Bran.
Bran guided dagger crows would have been funny.
Just sat through that, god it was dull. Once again what seems like 5 hours of filler for 5 good minutes at the end.
Must sit, still think LOTR and its use of actual people in heavy makeup had better shot and better looking battle scenes and that is almost 20 years old. The CGI fast zombies were a bit naff.
Meh, got 3 out of 6 in Spot the Stiff.
Enjoyed the Dothraki charge - creepy.
Best death goes to Lyanna Mormont.
Did anyone see what happened to Gendry?
Only got 2, but in correct circumstances.
Fairly intense and atmospheric stuff.
Well I really enjoyed that, gripped start to finish! Great scene with Arya in the library.
I must admit I was disappointed with the dark scenes at the start though despite having a nearly new OLED telly (and closing the blinds and curtains!). I played around with various settings but concluded they made it really dark to save money on CGI?
but concluded they made it really dark to save money on CGI?
It's the booming Belfast economy. All the extras look too healthy. If they'd filmed it in Halifax there would be an unending supply of emaciated zombiefolk to employ.
I mean, one minute Arya’s struggle to move around Winterfell, the next she’s able to go through it
She's a trained Assassin there's a tiny hint she's nearby and coming just be she appears.
That was awesome! I see some people can’t be pleased...
I was a little gutted this morning I had the big bit at the end spoiled by foolhardy opening Yahoo homepage for my personal emails only for them to broadcast it all. ****s.
Still I cheered when it actually happened.
My wife had to call an intermission mid-way to break the tension.
concluded they made it really dark to save money on CGI?
I think this is perhaps a tough concept to take as it’s rarely been used in the past but. They made it dark to make it hard for the audience to see to give us the idea that they were fighting at night.
It made the “pointless charge of the light Brigade” more dramatic as you saw the lights go out one by one to an invisible enemy.
What about Ghost? 🐺 He never came back.
Disappointed there was no zombie Hodor.
Kryton57
This for me, although the demise of the Night King seemed a little “easy” for me. I mean, one minute Arya’s struggle to move around Winterfell, the next she’s able to go through it, out sneak through many zombies and attack him, killing him with a single stab wound shortly after he’d been engulfed by Dragon Fire and survived. I appreciate it was a magic knife.
If only she'd been training as a stealth ninja for multiple seasons, that might explain it! 😆
And if only a witch had told her 20 minutes before, to get her arse in gear! 😆
mogrim
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Just sat through that, god it was dull. Once again what seems like 5 hours of filler for 5 good minutes at the end.
😆 Stuff being you!
Night King got killed by a girl!!
Epic 😀 One of the most intense things I’ve seen on telly or film, due to the fact I’m ridiculously emotionally invested in it after all these years of build-up and because I just didn’t know what was going to happen (unlike, say, LOTR which impressive visuals aside was a total yawn fest 😂)
Surprised they finished with a conclusion & not a cliff hanger just as the NK & Bran’s eyes met. Probably couldn’t have taken that though 😂 Did think he died a [i]bit[/i] too quickly after falling into the trap... is that it now for him? What’s the craic with Bran then? Those two do look weirdly similar...
Was on edge of seat for first 20 minutes. Then got slightly bored and did a search to double check the episode length but thought I read a spoiler saying Bran died. Had a bit of a LOL at the crypt when the dead arose, honestly didn't see that coming. Then despair started to set in and piff-paff-poof it's all over. Hurrah!
So back to fighting Cersei then. Glad the whitewalker stuff is over tbh. Was expecting it to last all season.
Stable boy (Season 1)
Kill count: 1
The Tickler (Season 2)
Kill count: 2
Ser Amory Lorch (Season 2)
Kill count: 3
A Frey soldier after the Red Wedding (Season 3)
Kill count: 4
A Lannister soldier at the Inn of the Crossroads (Season 4)
Kill count: 5
Polliver (Season 4)
Kill count: 6
Rorge (Season 4)
Kill count: 7
Ser Meryn Trant (Season 5)
Kill count: 8
The Waif (Season 6)
Kill count: 9
Lothar Frey and “Black” Walder Rivers (Season 6)
Kill count: 11
Lord Walder Frey (Season 6)
Kill count: 12
Every male member of House Frey (Season 7)
Kill count: 63
Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish (Season 7)
Kill count: 64
The Night King (Season 8)
Kill count (official): 65 (unofficial +100,000 zombies and white walkers!)
😆
Was good that.
I personally loved the dark atmosphere and the fact that the resistance were largely blinded, I also suspect it was to help blend CGI, but that’s fine with me, too much CGI ruins good TV.
Bonus points for the slashed up dragon throat.
-10pts for not having Neds headless body emerge from the crypt alongside his dearly departed wife, before attempting to kill their own daughter. Missed a trick there.
65” telly and the black of night made that a great spectacle. Battle scenes have been done to death over the years, but there were several outstanding moments during that episode that I don’t think I’ve seen portrayed before (sword fire being extinguished, etc).
Reminded me of seeing Gladiator and Private Ryan battle scenes for the first time. Hats off to the producers, I normally prefer to whinge about the annoying stuff but that were reet good.
Is there anyone who can out smart and out manoeuvre Araya? She's awesome.
I left pinch marks on the sofa and all of that was going on and Bran slept through it 😂
Did anyone see what happened to Gendry?
I could barely see what happened to anyone, but apparently he did some smiting and survived.
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/29/18522076/game-of-thrones-long-night-who-died-battle-of-winterfell
Enjoyed that - full on action for the whole episode.
Only on STW could you find certain sorts who wouldnt have enjoyed it!!
Did both dragons survive?
I expect the Night King was glad to die to escape the constant chafing of his asbestos pants.
Did both dragons survive?
John Snow's crashed landed and he walked away from it, not clear if it survived or not.
One dragon definitely still up and running, but surely they're both going to somehow get killed/disabled before any further battles for the throne against non-undead soldiers?
Was Bran doing a 'Dr Strange' when he zoned out and reviewing what needs to happen next to get to the ending he wants? Haven't read the books but is the Night King thing a cycle? Is he going to become the next one?
Did both dragons survive?
Watch the trailer for next week for a clue.
Meh I'm disappointed, maybe I should have more faith in the writers and Cersei as the main villain will all make sense in the end. But really wtf? The Night King has been around for thousands of years, has several supernatural powers and ultimately lasts a couple of hours in the first big battle he gets into (this time around anyway). Pffffffffft
Aarya killing him was great but it should have been the final episode (broken into two parts with some wrap-up stuff at the end). I honestly couldn't give a shit now how it ends, whether it's Cersei, Jon, Danny or someone else on the throne I don't care.
Pros:
Some great scenes like the Dothraki flaming swords and screams gradually fading, really built the suspense up well
Blizzard - good way of somewhat neutralising the dragons
Lyanna Mormont's death was well done
Aarya's fights scenes were really good
Cons:
It was obvious 30 minutes in after how badly to shit it had gone that the only way anyone was going to survive was for the either the Night King to be gravely wounded and flee (with the White Walkers getting slaughtered) or for him to die
The White Walkers did nothing. OK, tactically it made sense for them to stay back but would have been better for them to have gotten involved and a few of them killed giving the humans at least a glimmer of a chance at one point.
Bran seemed to do nothing apart from worg a few ravens, I get the whole he's changed so much he doesn't really get involved in such petty things but meh
Not enough major characters died, either Brienne or Jamie had to die both for it to be remotely believable and for me to care about either character for the remainder of the series. Should have lost a few other big characters to, I'm sure some will go in the final showdown but I'm now also worried far too many will live happily ever after.
It was obvious 30 minutes in after how badly to shit it had gone that the only way anyone was going to survive was for the either the Night King to be gravely wounded and flee (with the White Walkers getting slaughtered) or for him to die
Yup but I still loved the way it was done especially the tiny hint she was coming.
Bran seemed to do nothing apart from worg a few ravens,
Why would he as he knew what what was going to happen.
Not enough major characters died, either Brienne or Jamie had to die both for it to be remotely believable
Look! Our hero's surrounded and about to die! Ah, another one's turned up and saved him/her in the nick of time!
Rinse and repeat again and again and again.
There were some good scenes, but as a whole it could have been 30min shorter.
Just not sure why the night king was bothered by Bran. If he just waited twenty seconds his zombie hoard would have done his dirty work.
Bloody hell! There’s just no pleasing some people! Is there anything in your life that isn’t disappointing?
It was an epic piece of telly! I felt exhausted after watching it, it was so tense.
The last couple of weeks we’ve watched it then stuck it straight on again to go over it and see what we missed. We didn’t do that last night!
We guessed last series that it was building up to Arya being the main man, one way or another. Brilliantly done! Love the way her character’s developed. She’s surely going to have a major part in how it all plays out
I honestly couldn’t give a shit now how it ends, whether it’s Cersei, Jon, Danny or someone else on the throne I don’t care.
I'm hoping Tormund is the last man standing and takes the throne and shacks up with Yara Greyjoy.
I thought Brienne was defo up for the chop, probably protecting Jaime (who I still think is going to be the one to off Cersei!) as her story seemed to be complete since she got knighted. Would’ve made for a poignant moment as she’s one of the best loved characters for sure. Now she’s survived though, maybe she’s destined to follow in the footsteps of her ancestor and be the head of the kingsguard for the new ruling Targaryen, once the dust has settled?
[i]Very[/i] surprised Grey Worm survived, especially as he spent the previous episode outlining his retirement plans!
They can’t have 3 more episodes of human vs human rucks, got to be more to the Bran thing surely?
Finished binge watching GoT from last week. Right from the start.
Cant help feel I've cheated a bit.
Thought last nights was some of the best TV I've seen. Dark room with OLED TV and Sonos 5.1 cranked right up. Was utterly brilliant.
Preferred the battle of Hardholme for the novelty of the wights in action, but overall, the darkness and confusion at Winterfell added more than it took away. A lot of great moments, the Dothraki lights melting away being chilling. Did need more headless Ned roaming the halls, though.
The outcome was pretty well foreshadowed, probably for a couple of series, and certainly throughout the episode. As soon as she disappeared, you knew she was stealthing her way to the NK.
I've told people who've not seen it that GoT was witty, well written, character-driven and engrossing,with some fantasy elements but set in a realistic medieval world. Then Sheeran turned up, gurning and winking into the camera. I guess I'm mainly disappointed that after what felt like three or four dull hours of folks saying 'huuuurg' and 'uuuurgh' it wasn't, I dunno, Ariana Grande or someone doing a little song and dance routine with the WWs. There probably is one out there somewhere. That was fast forward to the end dull.
(Also, when was it a thing that if you kill king WW they all die? Didn't seem to be many of 'em either. Seems a bit of a design flaw, not to say tactical misstep to put him in the middle of a battle. The whole episode was a bit of a video game - the CGI dragons look a bit shite tho unlikely to be cheap -, and this ending was a cheat. But at least it meant it was over.)
Also, when was it a thing that if you kill king WW they all die?
Since Jon Snow killed a White Walker at Hardhome and all the attendant wights died too.
yes, whights. Not any of the WWs who were standing about
Yeah I don't think it's confirmed where the WWs came from, were they created by the children of the forest (and the NK was just the first one of them/leader), are they created by the NK from the sacrificed babies who then age (surely there would be a lot more of them though, nearly 100 just from the Craster babies and not all would look super old) or created through some other means? Only makes sense for them to shatter along with the NK if the NK created them.
the only way anyone was going to survive was for the either the Night King to be gravely wounded and flee (with the White Walkers getting slaughtered) or for him to die
They did explicitly say just that early on and Bran in the Godswood was bait for the Night King. Theon's lot guarding Bran didn't amount to a plan to kill him though so it was obvious something else was afoot.
Spectacle and mayhem aside, Beric's sneaking around dark corridors and peeping round corners while stealthily holding up a clearly audible 3 foot burning sword was one of my favourite bits!
It’s not spelt out explicitly but as it’s shown that WW can create more WW from humans, and that the NK was created by the children, I’m going to assume that the NK is the “father” of all the WW so it makes sense that if he dies, they all die too.
Apart from being too dark (couldn't really tell what happened at the crypt until I read about it) I thought it was excellent.
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off - that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes. Also would have liked Jon finding he was fireproof and escaping from zombies that way.
Not sure how Bran zoning out helped. It was a bit like a 'this isn't going well, time to get high' move.
Can't be much left but clean up and admin now!
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off – that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes.
Erm, she has to kill em before she can take their faces - not sure Bran would have been up for that.
Not sure how Bran zoning out helped.
I suspect Bran to be pivotal to the plot...
Bran has the mark on him so couldn't fake it / move. It's like a tracking device
Do keep up 🙂
despite having a nearly new OLED telly
The dark scenes made me wish Id stuck with my old plasma TV, handled black colour so much better than LED or OLED
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off
Woudldnt she have to had kill Bran to take his face to use as a mask?
I did have a little giggle to myself last night as I went to sleep - the Night King spent the best part of a decade marching from North of the Wall to Winterfell, only to get stabbed in the guts by a 5' tall Girl.
what binners said! except i did rewatch it again straight away!!
Nobody else get a feeling we might see Tyrion and Sansa on the iron throne now...?
Woudldnt she have to had kill Bran to take his face to use as a mask?
Yeah, but I did suspect as Bran sat there all chilled waiting for the Night King to slooooooooowly Walk over, it would be just like Ayra to be sat there all tooled up under the blanket. Very GoT too. Sorry Bran, you’re useless, needs must and all that.
If, I did have to critique last nights episode, I would say it was slightly more Hollywood than the usual GoT, as bad as things got only a couple of fringe named characters died and about a million ‘red shirts’. In previous series it wouldn’t have been unusual for everyone in the crypt to be found dead after the battle for example, it’s never been a ‘nice’ programme, but still that’s being hyper critical.
All signs point towards a fairly standard TV ending now, there will be a big battle, Cerse will die, the hound will kill the mountain and a few other old scores settled and it’s likely that Jon Snow will sit on the throne either next to Dany or because she’s dead. Normal GoT MO wouldn’t be that, I’m dying to find out what happens though.
Nobody else get a feeling we might see Tyrion and Sansa on the iron throne now…?
I can't get past the line many series ago that paraphrased was 'Tyrion will decide who ends up on the throne'.
Surely that's just foreshadowing him shooting his old man on the shitter.
Top 10 TV battle, if not #1 ever.
Full of holes, but failing to care. Could have used more than 2 bits difference in the dark grey of night vs the ever-so-slightly-lighter grey of everything else. Maybe that was my telly. Rest of the series has been like that so no surprise.
I thought Jorah would make it to the final shindig at KL though. That said:
Not enough major characters died
It was living vs dead, was expecting more apocalyptic, with just a straggle of humans to make it out.
So what was the Night King doing with Bran? Did he want to zombify him because he could zone out? Or was that going to be a tap on the shoulder - "it's your job now son"?
Surely that’s just foreshadowing him shooting his old man on the shitter.
He didn’t.
He shot him on the tummy.
Twice. 😉