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[b]Cougar[/b] wrote:

And it has.  Click the # link under the post in the “Replies created” list.

Wow - that actually works for me - and works the way we've always wanted it to. Thanks!

[b]craig5[/b] wrote:

and whats happened to the forum search? I want to get back on the Alfa thread

https://cse.google.com/cse/publicurl?cx=002353871167780190211:ffna6g0opko


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 8:53 pm
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Oh youtube links don’t work for me no matter what I do.

Paste the URL - the full URL, not a youtu.be shortcut - in plaintext.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 9:07 pm
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Posted : 07/02/2018 9:08 pm
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CANT

Can't.  Unless you're talking about Brian.

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Posted : 07/02/2018 9:13 pm
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<p>Oh youtube links don’t work for me no matter what I do.</p>

me neither.

maybe it’s because I’m a cant...


 
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Posted : 07/02/2018 9:22 pm
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So, loads of 'fancy' new features that still don't work properly - but still no fixing the one feature everyone is asking to be restored, that used to work fine (list of topics you've posted in). Keep up the good work!


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 9:49 pm
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So, loads of ‘fancy’ new features that still don’t work properly – but still no fixing the one feature everyone is asking to be restored, that used to work fine (list of topics you’ve posted in). Keep up the good work!

You mean the bit that was fixed earlier today? Please do keep up.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 9:53 pm
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Not fixed for me.

Or do you mean the secret way of doing it by clicking on the hash that you can only find out about by trawling through this thread, that still doesn't work anywhere near as well as the old way.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 9:55 pm
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now not trying to be a pain and I certainly don't understand IT stuff -

and seeing as we pay for this - one way or another

have I missed the apology?

I probably have cause I can't be arsed plowing through everything and searching - well

but you know


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:09 pm
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Yup there’s been a few.

We know it’s not great, we know it’s still not fixed, we know some really aren’t very happy at all. It’s part of a bigger project that was needed doing to keep the forum and STW going. They knew it wouldn’t be great but they had to commit and they did. Sorry it’s still, well a bit crap but please just hang in while it gets sorted.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:17 pm
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that still doesn’t work anywhere near as well as the old way.

Whist I take your point, that's not helpful.  In what way doesn't it work as well?  What would you like to see differently?


 
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[b]grum[/b] wrote:

Or do you mean the secret way of doing it by clicking on the hash that you can only find out about by trawling through this thread, that still doesn’t work anywhere near as well as the old way.

Well it might be preferable if the link was more obvious, but TBH I'd have found it anyway (though I suppose that's only because I was opening the relevant page because I'd hacked a far worse way of doing it) and now we know what does it matter? As for the functionality, how does it work worse than it used to? From what I can see it actually works far better - going straight to your last post is what we've been calling for for years (to be fair it ought to be a piece of piss to make those links given access to server code, they were already being generated for other bits of the forum).

Just to prove I can be positive about this change - I think that was the main bit of missing functionality which isn't easy to fix client side (if somebody could send me a list of valid text codes for smileys my life would be complete!)


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:26 pm
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Hang on Drac, does this mean it's my turn to be Bad Cop?

AWESOME!

Um.  You all smell.  Or something.


 
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<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px; background-color: #eeeeee;"> In what way doesn’t it work as well?  What would you like to see differently?</span>

Well...


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:27 pm
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Well…

How is that in any way related to what Grum was talking about?


 
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@CFH we know the quoting is rubbish for you lot with buttons, but it's not as bad as quoting out of context...


 
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to be fair it ought to be a piece of piss to make those links given access to server code

Again I'm speculating, but,

Every time you make a change to raw code, you reduce portability.  A new version of the forum software comes along and you have to implement those same changes all over again.

It's far preferable to make customisations outside of the codebase, be that config files or plug-ins or stylesheets or whatever.  Randomly hacking about with the server code, whilst superficially trivial, is I suspect how we ended up here in the first place.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:33 pm
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Pretty much if I remember rightly Cougar.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:36 pm
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Whist I take your point, that’s not helpful.  In what way doesn’t it work as well?  What would you like to see differently?

It's more helpful than closing threads where people ask about it and pointing them to this thread as if it has the answers, then expecting them to trawl through it to find a post where you explain a totally non-intuitive way of doing something sort of similar but no-where near as convenient.

I realise I sound moany but this is an absolute shit-show.

Do I honestly have to explain why it's not as good as it was before?

Edit: OK it seems I do - so before, you could quickly see a list of threads you'd posted in, and see if there had been any replies, who made them, and when.

Now I have to look through the posts I've written, and click on the magic secret hash symbol to read the thread individually before I know whether anyone has replied, no? Or am I missing something?


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:38 pm
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Just edited that post twice for mystery formatting errors also.


 
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“Yup there’s been a few.”

I may have missed it, but I’ve not seen an apology. I’ve seen plenty of ‘yeah, we know it’s not great but...’

But I’ve definitely not seen a “look, we stuffed up, we’re really sorry and please bear with us whilst we fix it as fast as we can. We value your custom”

Your post just now was the most sincere apology I’ve seen. The point being that you’re not even someone who works for the company, and you’re having to apologise for them

And great, I now have a secret back door to threads I’ve posted on. I still can’t see what that thread actually was until I’ve clicked on it and then scrolled. More clicks = less functionality


 
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Oh before I forget, I'd like to thank whoever has made the URL to the old forum automatically redirect to the new one. That was the only thing that was really annoying. I can now go back to just pressing s and letting Google auto fill the URL to the bike forum 😁


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 10:48 pm
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Just clicked on page 38 of this thread and got taken straight to the Classified rules page. 😀


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 11:08 pm
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There have been other posts Zokes I suppose it depends what you accept as an apology. As a moderator I kind of do work for them, often we are the voice on the forums. Trust me I find some of the bugs bloody annoying too but in time it’ll be fixed.


 
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[b]Cougar[/b] wrote:

Every time you make a change to raw code, you reduce portability.  A new version of the forum software comes along and you have to implement those same changes all over again.
It’s far preferable to make customisations outside of the codebase, be that config files or plug-ins or stylesheets or whatever.  Randomly hacking about with the server code, whilst superficially trivial, is I suspect how we ended up here in the first place.

You're missing the point a bit here I think - I'm suggesting that the relevant links were already in use in the forum software elsewhere. So it's code re-use rather than hacking - though I suspect in reality it's just selecting a particular hook in the underlying software.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 11:21 pm
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 It’s more helpful than closing threads where people ask about it and pointing them to this thread as if it has the answers, then expecting them to trawl through it to find a post where you explain a totally non-intuitive way of doing something sort of similar but no-where near as convenient.

Conversely, it's less helpful to have 37 concurrent threads all discussing broadly the same thing.

Do I honestly have to explain why it’s not as good as it was before?

Yes in relation to this specific function, because it's a feature I've never used so I've no idea what you're talking about.

Someone simply sitting there going "well, it's all shit" doesn't help anyone fix things.  (That's not directed at you just to be clear, I;m talking generally.)  If you want something changing then the devs need to know what that is in as much detail as possible.

So, thank you for the information, I'll pass it on.


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 11:25 pm
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it’s code re-use rather than hacking

Sure.  I wasn't suggesting it was a difficult change, rather this stuff is modular.  If you make a manual change to foo.php, then install an upgrade to the forum software which replaces foo.php, then that change will be lost and will have to be re-implemented.


 
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Well, to be fair. It is all a bit shit 🙂


 
Posted : 07/02/2018 11:31 pm
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Ah, Moderators - I just reported the post above because I tjhought I'd be asked a reason!

the Reason:

A 'known issues' and 'known workarounds' thread would be really useful. Sticky and locked to non STW staff/moderators.

Keep the bun fight in this thread and the facts in another.


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 9:36 am
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Could we have a couple of topic specific stickies re: posting pics and quoting?

I thought I'd figured them both out but currently can't quote and can't post pics.

Not prepared to trawl through 38 pages to find the solution to either, sorry... 😳

Edit: D'oh! Hadn't read wwaswas's post immediately above, at least I know the edit function works!


 
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Like Button for BBPress

2012 so quite upto date for here 😉

http://jordiplana.com/bbpress-like-button-plugin


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 1:41 pm
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which is why there has been a repeated request for two (2) threads.

Where? You're making it up 😆


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 3:25 pm
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I will try to do one but I’m doing proper work this week. I’ll try to take a look tomorrow and compile something with Cougar as I’m behind a bit with what’s changed.

A guide is tricky though as some tricks work for some but not others.


 
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‘A guide is tricky though as some tricks work for some but not others.’

So does that imply there is no intention to fix the crappy new forum?

How do I quote?
How do I get to threads I have contributed to?
Didn’t there used to be a short cut to login at the bottom of each thread? Now you have to scroll to the very top


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 4:42 pm
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What's the purpose of the "Reply" button being at the bottom ever every post? It's not like it embeds, or indeed gives the option to quote the post you're replying to...


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 5:11 pm
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https://invisioncommunity.com/

Mmm


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 5:18 pm
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Of course it doesn’t FunkyDunc.


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 5:23 pm
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I've just trawled through a bit more thread and found the answer to "how do I go to threads I've posted on?" It's been mentioned a few times but it's easily missed in amongst all of the "feedback". I'll back the suggestion of a locked sticky with some official "how to do" items and official update news.

Go to your profile, "replies created" at the bottom of each post is a # symbol. Press that and it takes you to that post in the thread.

At least on iPad and iPhone on the latest iOS, in safari and opera.

Why is "take me to this post" disguised as a # symbol? Surely that is a very quick fix and one that doesn't obfuscate basic functionality?


 
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<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Where? You’re making it up 😆</span>

i was predicting the future. The very next post is a repeat of the request pretty much.

🙀


 
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Forum seems a bit dead doesn't it?

Hope you mods are enjoying a well-earned rest.


 
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I've looked at the network requests (Chrome developer tools) and the resource "admin-ajax.php" would appear to be a blocker. From sending the request it's 2.55 seconds, yes that's seconds!, before the first byte is sent.

The other request is from jordiplana.com which is related to the BB like image above - that takes over three seconds before there's a server response.


 
Posted : 08/02/2018 8:05 pm
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Silence from the website owners is pretty deafening. How long since the ‘update’ now? Better than the weird passive/aggressive posts though I guess.


 
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