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The woman is unable to talk about her claims, having signed a legal undertaking not to discuss the matter with anyone other than her father and brother, the friend said.

Erm...


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 5:45 pm
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If I've read that the same as Scotroutes has this could get interesting...


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 7:01 pm
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She can still discuss her feelings without discussing the details of the case.


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 7:56 pm
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Why would she have signed a legally binding agreement like that? Nothing in it for her.


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 7:58 pm
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…it’s like she’s been pressured into it via some coercive behaviour.


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 8:07 pm
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What penalty for breaking it though?  Says she's worried about not being employable in motorsport in the future but it feels like that so may have already sailed.


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 8:21 pm
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Why would she have signed a legally binding agreement like that? Nothing in it for her.

Money?


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 9:24 pm
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I saw this story earlier today,  wasn't sure if it's the BBC taking the moral high ground,  or whether it's a genuine grievance against Red Bull.

I'd like to think that in this day and age this sort of thing didn't happen,  and that you could go to work feeling safe in that environment.

The fact that there has been an agreement signed for nondisclosure doesn't look good for Red Bull, and that she's still feeling under pressure isn't good.

Still, makes for an interesting Chequered Flag podcast...

But then again, a person has felt intimidated in the workplace, which isn't good. And the lack of transparency on Red Bull's part isn't helping.


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 9:57 pm
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I feel like it's the lack of transparency that's key here. If you don't have anything to hide, then don't hide it


 
Posted : 02/04/2024 11:32 pm
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This is a very strange story. McLaren hire a senior Ferrari engineer then they mutually decide to separate after three months. Did McLaren realize they'd bought a pup or did Sanchez get a better offer from elsewhere?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/mclaren-announce-several-organisational-changes-as-new-signing-sanchez.4zQsiFn5q4ebcaTanM51fg


 
Posted : 03/04/2024 2:21 am
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They'd finished the photocopying 🤣


 
Posted : 03/04/2024 2:59 am
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Why would she have signed a legally binding agreement like that? Nothing in it for her.

I would imagine it was part of the procedure to mount her claim against Red Bull. She goes to HR with her claims, and they say "Fine, if you want to lunch a claim, both parties have to sign this NDA to stop them from talking about it". Not a problem for Horner to sign it, so she does otherwise her claim goes nowhere...Seen it before.

Edit: Also given where she worked, and the secrecy they like to surround themselves with, may even be part of her employment contract.


 
Posted : 03/04/2024 7:50 am
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Have we done Seb considering a return to F1? Well, maybe.


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 11:26 am
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ouch:


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 11:47 am
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It's fine amtye, we have used a multi-material composite repair matrix

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Posted : 04/04/2024 11:51 am
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Have we done Seb considering a return to F1? Well, maybe.

I hope that doesn't happen - he was past his best when he left and apart from a Mercedes seat-filler for a season I don't see what he will bring now. I'd rather see him in WEC.


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 11:56 am
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Not sure about Seb returning to F1, yes I miss his openness and humour.

Hopefully it won't be a repeat of Michael Schumacher's return to Mercedes if it does happen.


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 11:57 am
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I watched the interview with Seb.  He was pushed for an answer and his response was that yes, he's thought about it as he misses some aspects, but the question about talking to team principals wasn't connected and was answered more in a way that he was talking to them about other things, not about rejoining.


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 12:15 pm
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Meanwhile in the Guardian.

‘I’d love it if he came back’: Hamilton backs Vettel to take his seat at Mercedes


 
Posted : 04/04/2024 8:32 pm
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Sergeant's binned it in FP1, he could blame the chassis I s'pose


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 6:56 am
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Sergeant’s binned it in FP1, he could blame the chassis I s’pose

Oh man, looks like they couldn't get it repaired in time for FP2 either. From what I read the gearbox is broken and Williams don't have a spare front/rear wing so he'll have to go back to the launch spec.
edit- just seen the replay, no blaming that on the chassis 😬

 
Posted : 05/04/2024 9:56 am
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Sergeant : I need a new gearbox!
Williams : We will check the spare supplies
Sergeant : Hurry, I must race this weekend!
Williams : Are you sure it is not just the green cable we use to adjust your drink fluid speed, we have some of them?

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Posted : 05/04/2024 10:04 am
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Quote from James Vowles in the bbc practice report isn't encouraging for Sargeant's F1 future. If only there had been some warning signs last season...

Team principal James Vowles described the crash as "frustrating", saying Sargeant ran wide because "he didn't quite realise where he was with where the grass was on the outside and put a wheel on the grass.

"What you saw here wasn't a driver making a mistake because they were pushing to the limit. It's a very different type of mistake, a frustrating one by all accounts, because it wasn't on the limit of what the car could do.

"There was far more turning potential in there. He just didn't know where the car was on track relative to where he expected it to be anyway."


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 12:00 pm
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Yeah, that's a damning condemnation of your driver's skills to a worldwide audience.


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 12:03 pm
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That makes it a safety issue too. If his awareness is that bad, he's a danger to everyone else on the track.


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 12:27 pm
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If only there had been some warning signs last season…

In many, many, years of following F1 I can’t remember any other driver that’s got lost on the track


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 9:00 pm
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I can’t remember any other driver that’s got lost on the track

Same track, same team, same abundance of talent - I give you Nicholas Latifi turning the wrong way mid chicane

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IiFdeYOCFHg


 
Posted : 05/04/2024 9:13 pm
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Is that James May saying 'oh crikey'?🤣


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 1:12 am
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In many, many, years of following F1 I can’t remember any other driver that’s got lost on the track

Kimi Raikkonen *I think* got lost at silverstone when he returned to f1 with lotus. It was after the track layout had been changed. It stuck in my mind because I did the same thing in grand tourismo.

cant find a video of it, so I probably made it up to make myself feel better about my virtual racing ability.


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 1:35 am
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In many, many, years of following F1 I can’t remember any other driver that’s got lost on the track

Rosset.

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Posted : 06/04/2024 2:00 am
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Martin Brundle (so he says 🙂 ) once had a big crash in practice/qualifying, dashed back to the pits and jumped in the spare car. Ken Tyrrell says "are you ok?" "Sure," says Martin. "Remind me - which way do I turn out of the pits?" They declined to start the car. 🙂


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 7:12 am
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Well that qualy was a lot closer than I was expecting. Checo doing a sterling job. And others not too far behind on a circuit I expected Red Bull to be out of sight on.

Sainz showing Charles up again and if Aston had any sense they’d be popping him in alongside Fernando next season. Lance proved again he’s a liability.


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 10:44 am
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Same track, same team, same abundance of talent – I give you Nicholas Latifi turning the wrong way mid chicane

ah, I’d convinced myself that was Sargeant too. Williams have a strong run of driver talen at the moment.

I know Rosset was useless, did he get lost though?


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 1:02 pm
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I know Sauber (or whatever they call themselves this week) are basically in a holding pattern, but why the heck is Zhou still in that car? *

* rhetorical question....$$$$$


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 1:31 pm
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Ted Kravitz fact from this morning: there was as much time separating the top eight as there was between Verstappen and p2 last year


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 4:11 pm
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I found it depressing reading the Andrew Benson article today, that all drivers are having to manage their tyres over one quali lap, 3.6 miles! Is this the best that Pirelli can do, or are F1 tyres still designed to wear quickly to make things interesting?


 
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"I found it depressing reading the Andrew Benson article today, that all drivers are having to manage their tyres over one quali lap, 3.6 miles! Is this the best that Pirelli can do, or are F1 tyres still designed to wear quickly to make things interesting?"

Pirelli have been repeatedly asked to address this issue, and either can't or won't do so, no-one seems to know which.


 
Posted : 06/04/2024 8:15 pm
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Williams gonna need to get a move on with that spare chassis.

https://twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1776838936851046831


 
Posted : 07/04/2024 7:11 am
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"I found it depressing reading the Andrew Benson article today,"

Aren't they all?

Joking aside, F1/FIA should put some pressure on Pirelli to either a. Improve their tyres. Or b. Bring another supplier in.

I think I've read an article where Benson ruled the latter out.


 
Posted : 07/04/2024 8:55 am
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Joking aside, F1/FIA should put some pressure on Pirelli to either a. Improve their tyres. Or b. Bring another supplier in

In Oct 23 Pirelli beat Bridgestone to have their contract extended to 2027 or 28. Hardly a red flag from the FIA. Pirelli are delivering against a spec set by the FIA, so things like tyre degradation and durability are part of that spec. If the FIA wanted a robust, grippy tyre that could be pushed hard they could specify that and invite tenders but that's not looking likely.

Bringing back a tyre war may sound appealing but then you end up with another fixed performance offset that's baked in for the season (assuming tyre compounds are regulated as they are now).  That's hardly going to improve racing - and if you want to allow in season development of tyres you need more testing which is more cost for the teams, more time away for the mechanics in an already busy calendar, so basically a non starter.


 
Posted : 07/04/2024 7:45 pm
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Andrew Benson answers the tyre question here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68649304

Andrew: It's not for me to say what the F1 rules should be, but I can tell you that there is no appetite among F1 stakeholders for a 'tyre war', as it is known when there is more than one tyre supplier in competition.

But to address the central issue in the question - ie tyre degradation and management - it does not require multiple suppliers to stop those being such an issue as they are now.

The Pirelli tyres supplied to F1 are most unlike what might be called a typical racing tyre, in that they are very thermally sensitive, and typically require gentle treatment to prevent them overheating. If they become too hot, then the grip never tends to come back.

This means drivers can hardly ever - even on qualifying laps - push to the limit. This is a very abnormal situation - and was certainly not the case when predecessors Michelin, Bridgestone and Goodyear were in F1 in the 1990s and 2000s, whether there was competition or not. And it's not how the tyres behave in other categories where Pirelli is not the supplier, for example in endurance racing or IndyCars.

Pirelli has repeatedly been asked in recent years to stop the tyres behaving in this way, and in addition to widen their working temperature window as well as to make the 'extreme' wet tyre better.

F1 had the opportunity to change tyre suppliers last year, when Bridgestone made a bid to return. Many people were pushing F1 chairman Stefano Domenicali to make the switch, but in the end he preferred to stick with Pirelli.


 
Posted : 08/04/2024 8:46 am
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I must admit, I thought Pirelli produced these crap tyres because that's what they'd been asked to produce.  That article suggests they can't produce anything better 🙄


 
Posted : 08/04/2024 8:53 am
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That explains why the P Zero's that came on my road car where so crap 😉


 
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Posted : 08/04/2024 10:32 am
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Undriveable, cars stepping out in corners and spinning on the straights - that would liven things up!... 🙂

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1s-2026-active-aero-plan-set-for-change-after-alarming-simulator-findings/10596682/


 
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