[Closed] for the love of god no!!!!

Has anyone spotted the four horsemen of the apocalypse yet?

WHO..........

WHO..........

The man who brought peace to the Middle East.

Oh, no. Hold on. Maybe not.

The man who delivered "education, education, education" to the UK.

Oh, no. Hold on. Maybe not.

Erm. No. Lost me in that case.

Tony B Liar ?

FRIDAY THE 13TH, AND HE COMES BACK, just like a horror movie.

The Sequel.

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*paging al qaeda*

Why is it that EVERY politician, regardless of their particular leaning, wears awful shirts and ties?

Why? EH? WHY, DAGNAMMIT!

Can I just say at this point that I really, REALLY hate Tory Blair.

STW screen is shaking in my Chrome window. For the first time, both lefties and right wingers are masturbating themselves into a froth at the proposition.

Can I just say at this point that I really, REALLY hate Tory Blair.

I bet you don't hate him more than I do.

I can't imagine being able to hate him more.

So for a STW Meltdown Blair or Cameron?

What about bring back Thatcher? (Might be useful with Argentina sounding off)

So Wallis has just found Gromit

What are the media going to call these two the Collision Party !

Just shows how desperate Labour are to win and also how touch with the public they still are.

So for a STW Meltdown Blair or Cameron?

What about bring back Thatcher? (Might be useful with Argentina sounding off)

Thatcher regularly voted as second best PM, responsible for keeping the Merkins inline, and instrumental in bringing down the Berlin Wall and ending the Cold War. And of course seeing off the Argies.

Blair responsible for licking US butt (by this time an outlaw country refusing to recognise the UN World Court and it's convictions under them) and dragging us into illegal wars which have been lining his pockets ever since. Deserving of the death penalty, which is still the punishment for Treason in the this country I believe.

Edit:

Cameron a complete tool.

Blair responsible for licking US butt (by this time an outlaw country refusing to recognise the UN World Court and it's convictions under them) and dragging us into illegal wars which have been lining his pockets ever since. Deserving of the death penalty, which is still the punishment for Treason in the this country I believe.

1) you believe wrong, the death penalty isn't on the books anymore.
2) "When a Man doth compass or imagine the Death of our Lord the King, or of our Lady his Queen or of their eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do violate the King's Companion, or the King's eldest Daughter unmarried, or the Wife the King's eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do levy War against our Lord the King in his Realm, or be adherent to the King's Enemies in his Realm, giving to them Aid and Comfort in the Realm" So unless he boffed Dianna he's innocent of treason.

@TINAS can't we just hang him anyway?

TuckerUK
Thatcher regularly voted as second best PM, responsible for keeping the Merkins inline, and instrumental in bringing down the Berlin Wall and ending the Cold War. And of course seeing off the Argies.

Nice rewrite of History

thatcher is probably the worst PM of the modern era. The damage her policies did is still with us today and may never be healed.

Blair whilst being a lying shit who became corrupted by power his early governments were responsible for much good - although how much of that was down to him is debatable.

Devolution
Minimum wage
Tax credits
investment in public services especially NHS

Usual rewriting of history from the rightwingers on here

Yes I was going to ask who it was that voted her into "second best" place? The EDL perhaps or maybe BNP/UKIP?

Anyhow. I can't imagine for a second Mr A Blair attempting anything as ridiculous as trying to take the Labour Party leadership - the man is loathed and surely unelectable now. Unpopular with the unions, with the left, with the famed "middle ground". However, I reckon the Cons are daft enough to try with him (they even tried with Michael Howard!), and the politics line up neatly, surely....?

Usual rewriting of history from the [s]rightwingers[/s] whoever is posting on here

Devolution? Now we have 2 extra parliaments - thats a nice way to spend money
about 20 sides to every story!

Usual rewriting of history from the rightwingers on here

Perhaps reading an academic survey, such as that undertaken by WoodNewton @ University of Leeds may help provide you with the answer. [url= http://woodnewtonassociates.co.uk/analysis/Papers/Woodnewton-Leeds%20-%20Rating%20Post%20War%20Prime%20Ministers%20-%20July%202010.pdf ]clickety[/url]

It's a survey of 100 leading political academics in the UK - I, for one, will admit that they may have a slightly better informed view than me.

B.Liar's failures are legion and leave a long lasting global effect, the fallout from which we are experiencing now.

I know this will probably have me damned as a right winger, I'm not, I have no real political allegiance. They are almost all self serving, liars with dubious morals and very flexible standards.

But IMO one thing we don't need is that duplicitous b*****d anywhere near government. (however, we are probably safe while Wallace is leading the Labour Party)

Thatcher is a vile and wretched woman and equally as deserving of a place on my ever expanding set of public gallows.

But IMO one thing we don't need is that duplicitous b*****d anywhere near government. (however, we are probably safe while Wallace is leading the Labour Party)

Thatcher is a vile and wretched woman and equally as deserving of a place on my ever expanding set of public gallows.

I can perfectly agree with both of these sentiments

Perhaps reading an academic survey, such as that undertaken by WoodNewton @ University of Leeds may help provide you with the answer. clickety

complete piece of meaningless nonsense if yu even glance at it.

176 UK-based academics were invited to take part in the survey
–The academics were selected by Professor Kevin Theakston (University of Leeds) based on their specialism of British political science or British history post-1945
–The survey was conducted online and administered by Woodnewton Associates
–The questionnaire was designed by Theakston and Gill (Woodnewton Associates) building on a previous survey of 20thcentury Prime Ministers conducted by the authors in 2004
–Fieldwork conducted between 9th June 2010 –10th July 2010
–Response rate = 60% (106 completed)

TandemJeremy - Member
thatcher is probably the worst PM of the modern era. The damage her policies did is still with us today and may never be healed.

Bit early for trolling isn't it 😆

complete piece of meaningless nonsense if yu even glance at it.

Wow! Sorry, hadn't realised that you were an expert in the field of research. Please expand.

Is the only survey worth reading by TJ Associates? Maybe one by Unite or something like that 😉

I liked that one of Gordon Browns achievements (in the eyes of what must be biased people) was managing to become prime minister.

Expand? Just read the methodology. 🙄

One person selected the sample. No controlling for political bias

60% reply rate

Subjective questions

No weighting of answers

rogerthecat - Member
Wow! Sorry, hadn't realised that you were an expert in the field of research

he's not, he's a self-proclaimed Troll

TandemJeremy - Member
On this thread I have been taking the piss

😆

Hiulldodger - how dull of you. do you really have nothing better to do that to cyberstalk me? Do I give your life that much meaning?

Roger - and you are not even a new member?!?

Rember the gospel (oops not the most appropriate choice of word):

Heath/Wilson/Callaghan = social and economic nirvana
Thatcher = the opposite
Major = under the radar screen and disqualified for liaison with Currie and underpants
Blair/Brown/CMD = tarred with same brush

Now can we get back to riding bikes?

(have to agree with TJ - that survey was sanctioned by an Uni? What do people say about current academic standards?)

One person selected the sample. No controlling for political bias

60% reply rate

Subjective questions

No weighting of answers

It would be good to apply some correlation to the data to see how much agreement and disagreement there was between the individual replies. Though I reckon the Politics guys just don't like the maths and stats guys....

The outcomes seem to take neither side in any great way.

teamhurtmore - Member

Roger - and you are not even a new member?!?

Hairshirt on, off to do several laps of the cloisters with a birch branch.

TandemJeremy - Member
Do I give your life that much meaning?

Nope, just a jolly fine laugh at your trolling antics, reel away.......

......until the next ban that is 😆

thatcher is probably the worst PM of the modern era. The damage her policies did is still with us today and may never be healed.

Well I'm glad you said "probably". Because if Thatcher was bad then Blair could only have been worse than her, as he not only supported and refused to reverse all the things which according to you made her such a bad PM, but in fact built on them, introducing privatisation into areas which she could only have fantasized of, and involving Britain in as many wars as he possibly could, whilst committing Britain to new levels of slavish subservience to an extreme right-wing republican US president.

Tony Blair was the worse PM Britain has ever had. A truly vile, disgusting, egotistic, and self-serving man. And I feel constantly frustrated that I lack sufficient command of the English language to do proper justice in expressing the utter contempt I feel for him. I'm sure that words must exist but I always feel those that I use fall disappointingly short.

I would rather have a candle-lit dinner with Margret Thatcher, than piss on Tony Blair if he was on fire.

Ernie - the interesting thing as you pointed out is of course one person is not responsible for everything a government does.

However the Blair governments did do much good as above - altho I suspect despite him not because of him.

He is hated and vilified by the left perhaps at least in part because of the great opportunity squandered. We expect to be shafted by the tories, we do hope not to be shafted by labour.

The damage the Thatcher governments did is still far greater than the damage of the Blair governments. The deliberate creation of mass unemployment with the social ills that created

To go back to the OP

Bliar has been casting around for something to do with himself. I really very much doubt he will be given any influence in the Labour party again.

I suspect this is all his desperate attention seeking / need to justify himeself

so far i find myself in total agreement with all of TJ's posts on this one... 😉 yes, i may well be yet another shat upon member of the NHS frontline staff, but still..

Tony Blair was the worse PM Britain has ever had. A truly vile, disgusting, egotistic, and self-serving man. And I feel constantly frustrated that I lack sufficient command of the English language to do proper justice in expressing the utter contempt I feel for him. I'm sure that words must exist but I always feel those that I use fall disappointingly short.

I think if you'd have kept going, you'd have got there eventually.
Give it another go, you know you want to. 😀