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Well that’d be the icing on the cake.

It’s already pretty obvious that he’s not actually very good (he’s a one trick pony who everyone’s got the measure of) and we’ve hugely overpaid for him, so him being a hit handy with his fists would just round it all off.

Ten Hag keeps starting him yet when Garnacho came on for him on Sunday, he instantly had a huge impact and on a different day may have scored the winner. You could have left Antony out there all day with little chance of any meaningful contribution


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:54 am
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Interview with Henderson on the athletic where he denies that he went to SA for the money. It was all about the project. Righto.


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:58 am
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Yeah, I heard that pile of old bollocks on 5 live this morning.

You sold your soul to some murderers. That’s your prerogative, but spare us all the hand-wringing bullshit so as not to insult our intelligence please


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 3:06 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66725924

@binners - who'd have thought that would happen?

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Posted : 06/09/2023 9:24 am
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The valuation of the club had ballooned because of the potential sale, it had inflated to 3 billion, the Qatari's offered 5 billion anyway, Jim Radcliff 4 billion. The Glazers thought it was worth more even though all evidence said NO.

Now it is returning towards it's true valuation.

The whole episode just shows that extremely rich people ie the Glazers, Jim Radcliff and the Qatari's are ****ing idiots, they don't owe their success to being brilliant or special, they owe it to being extremely lucky (see also Musk and Trump)


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 9:58 am
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binners – who’d have thought that would happen?

I’ve not been this shocked since George Michael came out!

It was obvious right from the off that they weren’t serious. It was just an exercise in getting a valuation. They’ll now take the highest offer as the valuation and remortgage the club at ridiculous levels of interest, to that figure, loading the debt back onto the club, then pay themselves a couple of billion each

That’s assuming the fans don’t burn Old Trafford to the ground at the next home game.

Either way, the club is absolutely ****ed now any hope of seeing the back of those parasites is gone.

I suspect that like many lifelong fans, I’ve just had enough of the whole sorry saga now. When the Glazers took over, we all had season tickets, but one by one all my mates have not bothered renewing them. I only know one person who still has one. But then we’re what they politely refer to as ‘heritage’ fans. They’ll still sell out all the corporate hospitality to watch a disinterested, overpaid and mediocre side battle it out for that last Europa League spot


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 10:12 am
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And then there’s this, as summed up perfectly by the Guardian today

Antony case shows Manchester United have not learned any lessons

Depressing


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 10:32 am
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Problem is Antony and Greenwood have a high dollar value and that's all the owners see.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 10:52 am
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Let's not forget Sancho, they've basically taken a super car and turned it into an Allegro.

Mr Easter Island statue is picked got England before him now.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:20 am
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Let’s not forget Sancho, they’ve basically taken a super car and turned it into an Allegro.

That's indeed a bizarre one for me... one of the most exciting teenagers of modern times... turned into a bench warmer !


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:23 am
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It is indeed an interesting one - sounds similar to Dele Alli? Amazing talent but rumours of not being fit, which then create mental issues and they then spiral the physical. He was excluded from training camps (still a culture in football that he might 'infect' others??) and sent away on a specific program but the recent ETH statements and the counters don't sound like he has the manager's backing.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:40 am
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That’s indeed a bizarre one for me… one of the most exciting teenagers of modern times… turned into a bench warmer !

Unfortunately it’s indicative of the way the club does it’s business. Woo him and pursue him for two seasons, finally sign him for top dollar then leave him sat on the bench or play him out of position, then publicly slate him for not delivering

Donny Van de Beek is even more mystifying.

I’m amazed Rashford has stuck around, to be honest. He gets played out of position all the time to cover for the big holes in the squad

Antony starting in front of Garnacho? Martial playing as central striker despite not having scored since 1997, because we can’t get shut of him

Phil Jones being given a new 5 year contract then never playing? He’s now youth team coach apparently

35 year old Johnny Evans on a free from Leicester to shore up our threadbare defence?

Eric Bailly?

Harry ****ing Maguire on 200 grand a week and clearly going nowhere (in every sense)?

The list goes on and on and on

The whole thing is an utter shambles


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:52 am
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ManU seem to be trying to outdo the Tory Party in a weekly competition to see who can shoot themselves in the foot most, and in the most different ways. So far this week it's a score draw at 3-3 (Anthony, Sancho and Glazers stopping sale v RAAC, Gillian Keegan outburst, Sunak cutting school rebuilding budget). Still 2 days to go for either side.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 3:44 pm
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ManU to win this in Fergie-time by offering Maguire a 3 year contract extension.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 4:25 pm
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Nah, they re-sign Pogba for another club record fee.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 4:33 pm
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I wouldn’t put it past them to do all those things then drop another bombshell to eclipse the lot.

What I can see is us having a season similar to Chelsea last year, marooned in the bottom half of the table, getting an absolute spanking off all the top teams (Brentford, Brighton…), then getting to January and the few decent players we have got thinking “**** this! I’m off!”


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 4:53 pm
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The Glazers deciding, apparently, they're now not going to sell resulted in the biggest ever one day fall in the share price - down 18% yesterday.
Current valuation is c$3.2 billion.
Glazers reportedly think it's worth c$10 billion.
Next time they try to sell I would be unsurprised if bidders said...any bid is conditional on our costs being fully reimbursed if the sale process is called off.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 5:19 pm
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Something is worth what somebody else is prepared to pay for it

A simple rule of business they seemed to have failed to grasp

They’re just blinded by their limitless greed, which dictates everything they do and sadly everything that happens at the club

We’ve got Brighton at home on Saturday the 16th, 3 o clock kick off. A game we’ll likely lose (Mitoma and Co must be itching to get stuck into a central defensive pairing of Harry Maguire and Johnny Evans). I can imagine things will get a bit lively. Not that the Glazers dare come anywhere near Old Trafford, obviously


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 5:31 pm
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Can we just have a Man United thread? The daily soap opera, ineptitude and Binners’s rants cheer me up no end. A pity it features characters like Greenwood and Antony though.

There were rumours about Sancho’s attitude and training when with England being hit and miss. His best position is also on the left which is where Rashford plays. Fair play to Ten Hag, he’s not afraid to call the players out (Ronaldo, Rashford was dropped) and Sancho was not his signing either I guess. Antony must have some dirt on him though!


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 6:41 pm
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The most insulting, but depressingly accurate comment I’ve heard about United was in an absolutely scathing article in the Guardian which concluded that ‘it’s no longer a football club, it’s a theme park’

EDIT: I’ve just found it. It’s from 2 years ago but is more laughable now than ever

Glazers’ heritage-hawking risks making Manchester United a 90s theme park

a bonus trip to the Manchester United 1990s waxwork museum


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 7:49 pm
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Once again Citeh doing all the spending to buy the league

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66726456


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 8:58 pm
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It’s a relatively straightforward formula

1. Leave all your transfer dealing until the 59th minute of the eleventh hour

2. Panic and buy someone who wasn’t even on your radar until 5 minutes ago when his agent called and your present manager has never actually mentioned

3. Pay the already ludicrous transfer fee with 30-40 million stupidity tax added on due to point 1.

4. Give said unproven/overrated show pony a 7 year contract on 350 grand a week

5. Despair as he proves to be a complete donkey on the rare occasions when he’s not out injured

6. Watch him sit on the bench for years because only 3 clubs in the world can match his wages, and they’re not stupid enough to be remotely interested, so he’s going nowhere until he leaves on a free

7. Repeat…. over and over and over… in some instances with the same player


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 10:48 pm
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Hey, at least it's not Lukaku


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 10:56 pm
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I breathed a sigh of relief when United didn't buy Lyndon Dykes or Che Adams, we don't need that kind of negative impact on our Scottish (?) assets. Too good for them anyway.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:07 pm
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If it's all about ManU, then not a lot of blame being thrown at Ten Hag, he's had a huge budget, had a lot of talent to work with, and not really showing he knows how to get the best out of the team, or individuals.  For ManU to be better, they need a manager who can get more out of those already there, not just their own signings, he also seems to throw players under the bus when he's not pleased with them, not a good thing if they don't leave, as ManU are finding out.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 11:22 pm
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Anyway… getting away from the car crash that is Man Yoo and on to another car crash

Jordon Henderson absolutely tying himself in knots when asked about would he be wearing rainbow laces again. Oh dear. He should really just stop digging and just say ‘I did if for the money and I couldn’t actually give a flying **** about the LGBTQ rights I made such a big deal of then immediately jettisoned when somebody waved some cash in front of me’

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Erm… I don’t think the Saudis are that inclusive really?  Unless publicly flogging people for homosexuality is now deemed as ‘inclusive’

What an absolute shithouse that bloke is. I hope he enjoys picking up his blood money for playing in front of empty stadiums


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:39 am
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Some eyebrow raising teams on that net spend list!

Arsenal, Spurs and Newcastle in the top 8 for very little return, in terms of actually winning anything. West Ham and Villa above Liverpool (their place on the list owes much to Herr Klopp and the Coutinho fee). Everton solidly in the top 15 and then European heavyweights Crystal Palace and Bournemouth ahead of Real and Bayern.

Oh and of course City have bought the league. ‘‘Twas ever thus! They’ve just done it better. Aided by some creative accounting 😝


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:48 am
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re Jordan Henderson, you expect it from players like Ronaldo but someone like Henderson should really know much better.

Also when you are living in a place where people aren't free should you respect that culture? **** no.


 
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Posted : 07/09/2023 4:53 pm
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Henderson really doesn’t know when to stop digging, does he? Apparently it’s nothing to do with the money. He’s going to bring down the Saudi Regime from the inside

Righto Jordan


 
Posted : 11/09/2023 10:05 pm
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Pogba busted for Testosterone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66780283


 
Posted : 11/09/2023 10:23 pm
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If he’s banned for two years, would anyone notice?


 
Posted : 11/09/2023 10:32 pm
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I was assuming it would have been a recreational style drug, the way he strolled about at Old Trafford.


 
Posted : 11/09/2023 11:37 pm
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Valium?

I think they must put it in the water at OT, the way everyone kicks back once they get there


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 1:06 am
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If Pogba is on it, then there will be loads more.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 10:24 am
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Perhaps Jordan Henderson would like to donate his pay rise to a Yemeni charity


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 10:32 am
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If Pogba is on it, then there will be loads more.

I am not seeing your logic here, not that I think football is PED clean, but I don't see Pogba getting busted as a yardstick for the sport. It is not a revelation that moves the needle one way or the other.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 10:40 am
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There's a "friendly" match at Hampden tonight.
Who's got most to lose? Scotland have been on a great run they don't want any injuries etc. Does the same apply for England?
I think it's a match both team's could have done without. Also once the songs start and there's a couple of collisions how friendly can a Scotland v England match really be.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 11:00 am
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Perhaps Jordan Henderson would like to donate his pay rise to a Yemeni charity

In 2021 alone Henderson donated approx £4m to charity.

He has also been given an MBE for his efforts/work for charity and the ammounts he's helped raise.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 11:23 am
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I think England have most to lose. English media and a section of their fans will see them as favourites so if they lose it will put more pressure on Southgate. I think most Scotland fans are actually more interested in seeing us finish qualification strongly. I'd take finishing top of the group over beating England. Anyway I think our confidence is high enough that as long as we don't lose badly I don't think it'll do us any harm. On a personal note I'd like to see Lewis Ferguson get a run out tonight.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 11:59 am
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I'm not sure if/where the game is being broadcasted tonight but I I will be at work trying to avoid the score updates etc. Yes it would be good to see Lewis Ferguson get some time on the pitch. My main concern is to avoid any longer term injuries to the established players.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 12:44 pm
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Southgate showing his tactical conservatism again.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66781875

Doesn't seem to realise that braking into a midfield of KDB, Rodri, and Gundagon over the past few years would be almost impossible for anybody. Foden has been effectively played out of position because he is still so good that he can perform in many positions. Of course it doesn't seem to bother Southgate quite so much that Philips got even less time in the city midfield, or for that matter that Maquire has been unable to break into the united defence.

At some point at the pointy ends of tournaments you need to win, IMO in order to unlock other teams establishing Bellingham, Rice and Foden has got to be the way forward.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 1:07 pm
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I suspect Southgate has been asked not to return top first team players in a plaster cast due to playing in a pointless friendly.


 
Posted : 12/09/2023 1:10 pm
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At some point at the pointy ends of tournaments you need to win, IMO in order to unlock other teams establishing Bellingham, Rice and Foden has got to be the way forward.

Not entirely sure why Foden didn't start - especially when Henderson has gone to play in the retirement fund league.


 
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