Interesting how most of the press have edited this bit out of Fergies post match comments.
Ferguson said: "We congratulate Manchester City. Anyone who wins the league deserves to win it because it's a very, very difficult league to win."We know that because, as we've experienced today, we've lost on goal difference.
"They [City] can go on as much as they like. That's what you would expect, but the history of our club stands us aside.
"We don't need to worry about that. I think we have a rich history, better than anyone, and it will take them a century to get to our level of history.
"But for us it's still a challenge and we're good at challenges. We'll kick on from here."
A great manager yes but the man has no class, why do people pander to him?
A great manager yes but the man has no class, why do people pander to him?
Because he's the greatest manager in the history of the game?
Also he's a winner, and winners never take defeat well.
you've won the league and you're [i]still[/i] bitter?
Also he's a winner, and winners never take defeat well
I think it was Kenny Dalgleish who said - "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"
why do people pander to him?
Probably because he's the most successful manager working in British football. I would have thought that his long term record also has him on a pretty good standing when compared to any manager in world football.
He didn't win the league. And he is a sparky from a Glasgow shipyard (how much class is he required to have ?)
I'd say that was pretty gracious really, and accurate.
It's sort of true though.
I'm no Man U fan.
However, 12 out of 20 beats 1 out of 20 by some margin.
I wouldn’t disagree that he is probably the best manger of all time and most city fans would go along with that but one mans mind games in another mans disrespectful comments. He comes out with this rubbish all the time and the press conveniently edit it out for him.
why do people pander to him?
Seriously? Have you seen his pedigree?
Plus: he was absolutely bang on. City haven't won the league for 44 years. How many has Alex won?
What I want to know is what will happen to City when those profitable rules kick in...
as a neutral, it was good to see a beaten Bacon Face.
What I want to know is what will happen to City when those profitable rules kick in...
Quite easy to dodge the rules I expect - for example someone could sponsor the stadium for way more than it's worth to up the revenue.
never in a million years did I think i'd see those comments above in response to the OP.
seriously, i'm smiling inwardly at the common sense shown above.
oh, and congratulations to City, it made the heart ache more bearable to hear Kompany give a great after match interview, he deserves to be a winning captain.
Fair play to Citeh, I hope they savour the moment and not dwindle too long on bitter gloating.
Probably because he's the most successful manager working in British football.
Pretty damn easy when the ref's usually on your side
/lights blue touch paper and runs from mob of plastic mancunians
Papa_Lazarou - Memberas a neutral, it was good to see a beaten Bacon Face.
Yep, clearly neutral. Happy ABU day to you.
I guess if Fergie had been conceding the league for the last 3 weeks that'd be classier?
Pretty damn easy when the ref's usually on your side
Check out his record at Aberdeen where the refs were most definitely not on his side!
Saying it will take city 100 years is pretty disrespectful in my book and he would have been better of if he stopped talking after the first line.
And re fair play regulation as an accountant in Manchester I know the firm who are looking at the issue for them, they are pretty professional and tight lipped so I don’t know all the ins and outs but as you can imagine regulation put together by UEFA is as solid as a Swiss cheese.
Plus: he was absolutely bang on. City haven't won the league for 44 years. How many has Alex won?
So funny to hear all the Man U fans now having to trade on their past glories, something they've been revelling in slagging off Liverpool about for ages. 😉
It was very ungracious of Fergie but that's no surprise really is it.
past glorys which reflect on the previous 20 years of almost constant and unrivled success.
100 years was a bit rich. more like a lifetime.
past glorys which reflect on the previous 20 years of almost constant and unrivled success.
You're doing it again. Liverpool were historically really successful too. 😆
(and won more than Man U this season 😉 )
you've won the league and you're still bitter?
THIS
he is generally quite gracious- done honour guards to Chelsea was it at OT??? but he is a winner an dwill do mind games etc as that is what he does
they are right if they bring in financial fairplay you are in trouble
Jesus wept you wont he title in extra time with 2 goals , seriously WTF do you care what he thinks or says? ...what do you expect an e-mail and a bottle of wine each......I assume if we win next year Oasis do the Man U party gig eh
Grum:
Yeah yeah next year we hope to be as good as Liverpool and hit those levels of success and no mistake 😉
TBH we have been preety shit this season and on the decline since Ronaldo left and look at our record.... its a weak league IMHO and getting weaker [ City aside]
I don't understand the argument here, it seems like a perfectly fair comment.
So funny to hear all the Man U fans now having to trade on their past glories, something they've been revelling in slagging off Liverpool about for ages.
Past glories?
They've spent the best part of a billion quid, compared with United who are financially ****ed!! And yet they won it by finishing on the same points and relying on goal difference. Hardly that convincing is it?
They've some quality players. Ya Ya Toure, Kompany, Silva and Aguaro have all been absolutely outstanding! The fact that United ran them to the final minute of the season is a testament to Fergie's skill as a manager
Better history than everyone else, I don't think so....
It really is hilarious to hear all the plastic mancs trying to legitimise their success as more honestly achieved than anyone else. the scum have been buying the title for years, same thing as Chelsea, blackburn, and now City. It's only Arsenal who can lay claim to have won the Premier on managerial nous and enearthed talent.
The scum are despicable, as are their 'fans' and bacon face doesn't know how to lose graciously if he tried.
Well done city, thoroughly deserved.
Fair play to Bacon Face he took City all the way with a pretty weak team (compared to say the 1999 team).
I do think that his silence over the asset stripping of the club has let down the ManYoo supporters. Only he (or maybe Bobby Charlton) has the stature to stand up and say that it is not right but he has failed to do so - maybe because he was largely responsible for the ownership changes with his stance over Rock of Gibraltar.
It will be interesting to see what happens player wise at OT over the summer - major investment needed to compete with City.
TBH I do not mind his comments as it makes winning all the sweeter!
I don't see a great deal wrong in what he said.
Nice to see Everton doing well too
Many of you will not know but City fans are constantly referred to as bitter's but what SAF has come out with there is classic bitterness. I’m just pointing it out. Then you get a whole bunch of bitter reds calling me bitter for pointing out the bitterness of SAF. Its time the Bitter tag was dropped as it’s not the blues who are bitter now.
PS re financial fair play – this will have minimal impact over the short medium term maybe long term they will tighten it up but expect nothing to change soon.
I'm a happy blue, and tbh, on this day SAF is more or less irrelevant for once, and I'm celebrating without looking towards Old Trafford. I don't need the failures or misery of Utd to make City's season feel worthwhile, because for once, our own success is big enough.
But he's right in the sense that one title does not suddenly take away Utd's rich history of winning titles and rubbing our noses in it.
It really is hilarious to hear all the plastic mancs trying to legitimise their success as more honestly achieved than anyone else. the scum have been buying the title for years, same thing as Chelsea, blackburn, and now City
What a shame you cannot buy oit then despite your spending HO HO HO
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The scum are despicable, as are their 'fans' and bacon face doesn't know how to lose graciously if he tried.
Aye we need the grace that is amply demonstarted by Liverpool and their fans dont we 🙄
Have a word with yourself if you think fergies loosing is ungracious seriously what on earth would you class your rants as
Please this is a chat about foootball you ar ejust a hate filled moron ignoring the facts to spout your hatred.
W ehave all got it you hate Man U so please say somethign usefull or go look for a job ....imagine an unemployed unhappy scouser
what SAF has come out with there is classic bitterness
they just lost the title you won in the last minutes of extra time- FFS do they call you bitter becaus eyou can never be happy ?
surely you should just be laughing at this...how would you have felt this morning or last night but for those goals? Or Mancini?
Who gives a flying one about 19 titles, 100 years, weak team, goal difference blah, blah
"The title is ours
The title is ours
We won it in Fergie Time....
The title is ours!"
I didn't think I could have been happier than I was hugging Aguero but did you see the faces of the Untitled fans on Match of the Day when somebody dropped a wet one....or was it something else? A Goal? At Eastlands?..... They've won!
Arrrgghhhh!
The title is ours.
The ti- come on now you Never Goes....sing along (swap ours for yours though) 🙂
Aye we need the grace that is amply demonstarted by Liverpool and their fans dont we
go look for a job ....imagine an unemployed unhappy scouser
you ar ejust a hate filled moron ignoring the facts to spout your hatred.
Good luck grabbihg that moral high ground 🙄
Thanks Junkyard that clearly shows that you out spent City in 8 of the last 11 years. And i have been laughing at SAFs expense, the look on his and Phil Jones' face when City score is priceless.
Just thought as most media coverage has edited Saf's comments it was worth posting.
so why start the thread if you're not bitter? can't believe I got sucked into a footy thread but it's all that's getting discussed at work today. One thing this season has taught me tho is city fans (of an admittedly limited sample) are bad winners.Its time the Bitter tag was dropped as it’s not the blues who are bitter now.
I'm just delighted that someone goaded JY into posting a graph again.
its a reply to Loddrik and shows that pool out spent us and others and did not win - i was trying top demonstrate that his quote was wrong hence why I quoted him and then posted a graph
in the spirit of his posts
CHANTING
you're too shit to buy the league
Repeat till bored
Good luck grabbihg that moral high ground
I have ignored it for long enough so if someone is going to call me scum for three days and ignore requests to stop then I think I have "earned" the right to insult him back.
you do have a point
DD its the same graph and I just copied it 8)
I have ignored it for long enough so if someone is going to call me scum for three days and ignore requests to stop then I think I have "earned" the right to insult him back.
Your no shrinking violet JY, you cant have it both ways.
The thread was started to point out that Fergie was debatably ungracious in defeat but mainly how heavily edited his comments were essentially snipping out the bit that makes him look like a bad looser. That, I thought, was worth a discussion.
For the record if we had lost I would not be showing my face on any forum or in work, so respect to the reds who are enduring this.
Past glories?They've spent the best part of a billion quid, compared with United who are financially ****ed!! And yet they won it by finishing on the same points and relying on goal difference. Hardly that convincing is it?
They've some quality players. Ya Ya Toure, Kompany, Silva and Aguaro have all been absolutely outstanding! The fact that United ran them to the final minute of the season is a testament to Fergie's skill as a manager
'Ooh well we nearly won and they've got more money than us so it's not fair and we've won loads of times before so we're better really'
😆
I imagine that Fergie's probably quite pleased with the reaction to his comments.
The players can deal with losing the title without the press intrusion while Fergie gets all the flack.
He's a true genius who knows how to draw in the suckers. 😀
I imagine that Fergie's probably quite pleased with the reaction to his comments.
The players can deal with losing the title without the press intrusion while Fergie gets all the flack.
He's a true genius who knows how to draw in the suckers.
Oh come off it 🙄
It has worked well over the years, Keegan and Benitez could not hack it.
Mancini though is well up for it.
Oh come off it
Well, it's clearly working here... 😆
How would you know if the crazy Italian was losing his mind?
Your no shrinking violet JY, you cant have it both ways.
[b]you do have a point[/b]
did you get it this time?
Are you really happy defending what he said or are you just showing you have gentle trolling /always asking questions never answering /never giving your own opinion form on here to ?*
Again you have a point the issue is whether you think I have now.. do I ?
* this is merly a test of how good you are. I suspect you can still answer without answering and just ask me something anyway 😀
Totally regardless of what he has won for Man United I think it was ungracious considering how many of Man U's recent titles...
..have been won on the last day of the season.
Could we see a shift of power? No I doubt it. However both teams are sat on debt. Alot of it. Until Man Utd has new owners I can't see them being a powerful force in the Champions league for a longtime.
He's a true genius who knows how to draw in the suckers.
Fergie and his supposed 'mind games' are probably the most ridiculous myth/fallacy in football. Great manager but it has **** all to do with 'mind games'.
Still, it manages to draw in the suckers.
Are you really happy defending what he said
Where did I defend what he said?
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Ferguson actually looks in rude health. Still don't think he'll have enough time to turn this one around - the trajectories of the two Manchester clubs are quite marked IMO.
Are you really happy defending what he saidWhere did I defend what he said?
Chapeau but you missed off a smiley
Chapeau but you missed off a smiley
Is that an avoidance technique?
Awwwwwwwwwww. thats a lovely picture 😀
Hat to giggle at Fergie's reference to the 5 mins of injury time. Karma?
Hat to giggle at Fergie's reference to the 5 mins of injury time. Karma?
They dont like it up em!
I know the number of a good taxi firm here in the Stretford area; 0161 61 61 61
There is admittedly a certain Irony to City winning it in Fergie time
It really is hilarious to hear all the plastic mancs trying to legitimise their success as more honestly achieved than anyone else. the scum have been buying the title for years, same thing as Chelsea, blackburn, and now City. It's only Arsenal who can lay claim to have won the Premier on managerial nous and enearthed talent.
Quite right. If Man U hadn't bought Neville, Butt, Scholes, Giggs, and Beckham, they would've won nowt.
🙄
Fergie and his supposed 'mind games' are probably the most ridiculous myth/fallacy in football
These 'mind games' are utterly laughable, and it's about time people came out and pointed out how ridiculous and pathetic they are. Quite how these have been elevated to be the work of a psychological genius who has other managers trembling with terror and afraid to meet fergies mind games head on. Granted I'm far more educated than most football managers, but these supposed sophisticated verbal barbs should be about as unsettling as an afternoon nap.
It's a mind game in itself that 'fergies mind games' have even been granted the status of mind games...
Yes, that's right Lodders....
King Kev, nerves of steel... 😆
Quite right. If Man U hadn't bought Neville, Butt, Scholes, Giggs, and Beckham, they would've won nowt.
For a team who, according to people like yourself, have prospered on managerial genius, scouting prowess and the power of youth, I seem to recall a fair few £30m players, ESP at a time when most teams were struggling to spend half that.
As for keegan, he's a weak minded fool, why else would the Geordies worship him...
And another thing, 'sir' bacon face has a nighthood, why hasn't paisley been. His record is superior, in terms of trophies won in time in charge. Somehow I think if fergie had been manager of Southampton, he'd still be waiting for the queen to call...
As for keegan, he's a weak minded fool
How about someone a bit closer to home...
And another thing, 'sir' bacon face has a nighthood, why hasn't paisley been
It all part of the ongoing, well-known, national persecution of all things scouse 😉
For a team who, according to people like yourself, have prospered on managerial genius, scouting prowess and the power of youth, I seem to recall a fair few £30m players, ESP at a time when most teams were struggling to spend half that.
So who were all these £30 million players? I note that King Kenny has spunked £100 million quid, which is a pretty expensive league cup...
Only the most myopic people would ignore the fact that Man U have discovered some of the finest players this country has seen in the last few decades. To argue that only Arsenal have developed young talent is utterly laughable. These days they seem content to pinch them from Southampton...
I'm trying to remember the last team that won the title without a significant financial outlay (by the standards of the day). Leeds, I reckon, and that was 20 years ago.
How about someone a bit closer to home...
He's a weak minded Spanish fool! 😆
Indeed. It used to bring a tear to my eye listening to Old Trafford in full voice...
You're just a fat Spanish waiter
a fat Spanish waiter
fat Spanish waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiter
😆
The work Fergie did bringing Bebe to English football will always have a special place in [s]UTD[/s] City fans hearts.
Indeed. It used to bring a tear to my eye listening to Old Trafford in full voice...You're just a fat Spanish waiter
a fat Spanish waiter
fat Spanish waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiter
I expect they were just hoping he would bring them a prawn sandwich.
😆
'Fans' of the scum on the other hand, seem to exhibit the most disgusting sense of entitlement. I guess that's just a by product of years of having biased officials and media on your side though...
Which is exactly what they used to say about Liverpool and their fans. They don't anymore because Liverpool are now rubbish.
The scum have always outspend all others except for Joses Chelsea and now City.
Downing, Carroll and Meireles were how much?
Granted I'm far more educated than most football managers,
I would beg to differ based on...
The scum have always outspend all others except for Joses Chelsea and now City.
Your constant reference to United as the scum hints at you being no more than twelve years old. Apologies to any 12 year olds that are beyond reading The Sun.
I can talk about Liverpool and used to enjoy talking about Man Utd with my mates from Liverpool. I know these people exist, you Loddrick, would appear to be quite an immature and bitter little chappie.
Might I suggest that you step away until you develop the maturity to talk about football without the childish language... You really are an embarrassement to your club and the bin dippers who support them.
The scum have always outspend all others except for Joses Chelsea and now City.
Can you read the graph i keep putting up that you are ignoring to go on your rant?
I would beg to differ as i keep giving a graph showing his point is BS re epsending only a moron would keep going,
'Fans' of the scum on the other hand, seem to exhibit the most disgusting sense of entitlement.
We seem to be having some good humoured banter with scum laden references from yourself [ when you are not praising your own intelligence obviously ]
It is like listening to a racist explain why they hate black people...nothing rational is coming through from your posts as you have hate in your heart and that is sad for you and sad we have to keep reading it.
i keep giving a graph
Yeah, come on JY, let's have some different ones. 😀
Might I suggest that you step away until you develop the maturity to talk about football without the childish language... You really are an embarrassement to your club and the bin dippers who support them.
Ah yes, we should develop the level of maturity where we would refer to Liverpool supporters as 'bin dippers'?
Which is exactly what they used to say about Liverpool and their fans. They don't anymore because Liverpool are now rubbish.
You may have to get used to them not saying it about Man U any more either. 😉
Ah yes, we should develop the level of maturity where we would refer to Liverpool supporters as 'bin dippers'?
Your point? Are you really that daft grum? What were you saying about suckers earlier?? 😉
I might add that there's no point tryIng to reason wiTh people like me as the hatred runs too deep and I know I am always right.
I know, it's all a bit sad, isn't it.