I've always wondered this - How are you supposed to thread your belt on a pair of jeans with a leather patch above the rear left pocket? I'm talking about one that stitched top and bottom but open both sides, like a wide belt loop, not the Levi's one which would require Houdini style skills to get under
I'm currently threading it over but wondering if I've got it wrong? Would putting it under be like leaving the label on your suit jacket sleeeve or the sticker on your baseball cap?
Fashionistas of STW, wearers of crocs and lycra, please help me 🙂
It doesn't matter as no one will see it under your sports jacket?
Don’t you mean suit jacket?
Anyway how old are you as once we get certain age jeans aren’t allowed.
Over for me.
Anyway how old are you as once we get certain age jeans aren’t allowed
What age is this? Slightly worried at 45 years old, as I don't own any other types of trouser*
*apart from my suit trousers, which are exclusively weddings, funerals and job interviews only.
Drac has it. Over 30 - no jeans. do you really want to look like Clarkson?
..and while you're at it, start phasing out any bright colours from your wardrobe. You should be aiming for a collection of muted magnolias and mocha brown by the time you're 50.
I am 52 and still wearing jeans and look nothing like Clarkson. As long as you are keeping fashionable with shoes and shirts, coats etc,. then jeans look fine.
Helps if you are also in good shape and don't have a beer belly but on a cyclist forum being in good shape is a given....
Oh, and belt goes over the leather logo
TJ, can you recommend any suitable slacks for the mature gentleman? Ones which suit someone with a 32" waist and 34" leg and big cycling thighs required here.
but on a cyclist forum being in good shape is a given….
How can we take anything you say seriously after this?
Drac has it. Over 30 – no jeans. do you really want to look like Clarkson?
There you go TJHooker has spoken. Still he has to actually catch you.
No jeans over 30? WTAF!?! Bunch of boomers 😆
You should be aiming for a collection of muted magnolias and mocha brown by the time you’re 50.
Asking for a friend. What's the correct pronunciation of "mocha" in this context?
tom - beige slacks with an elasticated waist of course!
Unless you like being a walking advert, or it has a comedy message, belt over rear patch.
Haven't seen any like that since the 90s though.
Kerrley - you just described dressing like clarkson!
on a cyclist forum being in good shape is a given….
😂
Asking for a friend. What’s the correct pronunciation of “mocha” in this context?
Mocha rhymes with rocker.
Under the patch (if can) and if you wear Levi’s tear that extra bit off
Anyone 40+ who wears jeans must iron a crease down the legs
According to uncle Jezza, once over 30 one should be buying ones trews from the adverts in the back of the Telegraph Sunday supplement
If they've got a leather patch they're probably deeply uncool so it doesn't matter what you do.
Threads like this need pics. It’s all well and good people espousing what others should wear; and even I who have no interest in fashion, am open to advise. But, you do wonder how well people carry off their suggestions.
As to answer the original question, I’d suggest you probably know instinctively. Under, if you want everyone to know what brand of jeans you’re wearing. Over, if you don’t want people to think you’re the former. Whatever, if you don’t care and realise that no one is looking or caring what you wear.
Over.
It could save vital seconds if the emergency services need to cut your strides off.
Remember never dress like a Jeremy.

Remember never dress like a Jeremy.
I don’t see much wrong with that.
tom – beige slacks with an elasticated waist of course!
It has always amazed me that men of a certain mindset move to beige slacks in their dotage at pretty much the exact age that 'dribblage' becomes an increasing problem. The look is particularly strong when a coach load of active oldies in their beige rohans come out of the toilets at a motorway services en mass. Surely this is the very age when a nice heavyweight denim is there to save the day. Or tweed.
Jeans and shoes? Never. Boots or cool trainers if you’re Long legged and skinny enough to get away with slim fit jeans (not running shoes. Never. They’re for running).
My Levi’s don’t give you the option on the belt thing so I take from the ten thet it’s belt over.
I don’t see much wrong with that.
Or the joke.
I don’t see much wrong with that.
Or the joke.
There was a joke?
Remember never dress like a Jeremy.
The problem there is not the clothes but the lifestyle proudly displayed around his girth and face. Put the same clothes on a Tom Cruise, a Lenny Kravitz or a Robert Downey jr of a similar age and they would look tip top.
Or are you talking about 'our' Jeremy. Of the Ron Hill loving clan?
I like to show of my "George at Asda" label, so always under for me.
The Clarkson look has very little to do with his jeans. Its more to do with the patterned shirts and sports jacket. He'd look just as bad in chino's.
Jeans with a loose fit jumper or standard issue MTB lumberjack shirt look fine at any age.
Jeans and shoes? Never.
Poppycock. A suitably expensive brown brouge paired with proper selvedge denim is always a good look.
There was a joke?
Yes.
Or are you talking about ‘our’ Jeremy. Of the Ron Hill loving clan?
Jeremys are like the Borg.
I think you are all missing something. As the top should never be tucked into the jeans no one will see the leather label anyway so it does not matter.
58 here and only wear certain jeans, zips a definite no no, 501 or next £22 no belt, washed outside in so the fade slowly, 32/32 perfect fit none of the inner shortening and turn ups too artisan for me. Brown boots or Merrell trainers with black t shirt. Scruffy git I am
Drac has it. Over 30 – no jeans.

^^^Drac and Teej out for a stroll 🙂 🙂
Tj's roll model. #bemorelaurence :-p

Poppycock. A suitably expensive brown brouge paired with proper selvedge denim is always a good look.
Sorry to burst your bubble. I have it on good authority from those in the know about fashion. I’m not fashionable at all but have come across a few fashion snippets like this one. It’s a fashion faux pas.
Now if you have the legs and waist to carry off skinny jeans, which most people over a certain age haven’t, you can get away with it - maybe.
Fast haggis - nope not me. I would never be seen dead in grey loafers
Socks and sandals?
Obviously there's no need for a belt at all as we're all wearing stretch denim these days.
Aren't we?
Belts? Why is nobody buying jeans that fit them, more to the point.
Oh, and under.
Jeggings Perchy?
Belts? Why is nobody buying jeans that fit them, more to the point.
Have some decorum it’s about style, you always wear a belt.
Obviously there’s no need for a belt at all as we’re all wearing stretch denim these days.
Aren’t we?
Too right perchy ,stretch is the only thing that works for us cyclists 😉
Obviously there’s no need for a belt at all as we’re all wearing stretch denim these days.
Aren’t we?
No, but we are still desperately trying to get into the same size jeans as when we were 20, so flab-roll pressure holds them perfectly in place. On a related issue, The roll of flab also hangs over the area where the label is, so the OP's question doesn't matter anyway.
On the topic of belts, the belt should always cost as much as the Jean's. So a 20 quid belt on 20 quid Jean's, 80 quid belt on 80 quid Jean's. The width of belt is directly proportional to cost, as are loop widths on the Jean's.
Excuse my auto-apostrophes'
But Guy Martin wears jeans and he is like, the coolest guy on the planet.
Jeans and shoes? Never.
Poppycock. A suitably expensive brown brouge paired with proper selvedge denim is always a good look.
only if you want to go round looking like a complete berk from a reality tv show lol!!
My Levi’s
Dad jeans, FFS.

over, why would you waste time threading it through the badge?
plus dont all the best quality jeans have it fully stitched on anyway?
andybrad
plus dont all the best quality jeans have it fully stitched on anyway?
This.
Good fitting jeans and a plain white or black t-shirt on someone that's in decent shape is a classic look. The style of the jeans and t-shirt changes, but the look is a classic.
Lol at STW advice on how to dress well.
the average U.K. ‘middle aged’ man looks like a sack of ***** compared to most of our E.U neighbours. we may have invented a lot of style points along with the Italians but don’t seem to bother any more.
(pushing 50 and do double denim at least once a week)
the average U.K. ‘middle aged’ man looks like a sack of ***** compared to most of our E.U neighbours. we may have invented a lot of style points along with the Italians but don’t seem to bother any more.
The average Spaniard middle aged man is hardly a style icon in his jeans and t-shirt, and Italians seem to have confused wearing brand name clothes with actual style. No idea about the rest of Europe, maybe they're more stylish there.
No, but we are still desperately trying to get into the same size jeans as when we were 20
I am still wearing the same size jeans (32/32) that I wore when I was 20. At 52 I am also the same weight (71kg) that I was at 20. As I said earlier, that should be the norm on a cycling forum...
Over, anything else is trying too hard.
Having said that, wear what you want, a. No one cares and b, high school is probably long past now
I am still wearing the same size jeans (32/32) that I wore when I was 20. At 52 I am also the same weight (71kg) that I was at 20. As I said earlier, that should be the norm on a cycling forum…
i wish i could say the same, i was a 28in waist at 20, now at 48 I’m a 29 🙁
The average british man is a total style free zone compared to much of europe!
In international airports you can always spot the brit. They are the badly dressed ones.
Good fitting jeans and a plain white t-shirt on someone that’s in decent shape is a classic look.
Classically tragic, granted.😂 unless you're the Fonz maybe.

Belt under or over the rear leather patch on jeans?
Under for me.
Good fitting jeans and a plain white t-shirt on someone that’s in decent shape is a classic look.
Tell me more, tell me more....
The average british man is a total style free zone compared to much of europe
I've no idea where this comes from, I'd say it's my experience of airports that it's the folk from the US that are in constant danger from naked flames.
i wish i could say the same, i was a 28in waist at 20, now at 48 I’m a 29 🙁
Is this a typo or a humblebrag? To have increased your waist by a solitary inch in 28 years is pretty impressive. 1 inch is almost into margin of error territory. Or did you meant you are 29 with a waist of 48... which would not be so impressive!
Classically tragic, granted.😂 unless you’re the Fonz maybe.
If you're picking your jeans from the 70s, then yes, it's tragic. No one looks good in light jeans or in blue stonewash. It's 2020 FFS!. Dark jeans with a decent, well fitting T with good, classy accessories (belt, shoes, etc) should give you a decent look.
Lol at STW advice on how to dress well.
the average U.K. ‘middle aged’ man looks like a sack of ***** compared to most of our E.U neighbours. we may have invented a lot of style points along with the Italians but don’t seem to bother any more.(pushing 50 and do double denim at least once a week)
You is a Londoner though innit, probably dressed up to the eyeballs in A.P.C, Our Legacy and Universal Works. I know the sort.
I was experimenting with some double denim the other day. Came off more as plumber from an 80s porno instead of guitarist from an 80s rock band
Ridicule away:
the average U.K. ‘middle aged’ man looks like a sack of ***** compared to most of our E.U neighbours.
Most of my German colleagues have patches on the arms of not just their jackets, but their shirts too!
Your Gucci belt should always be worn over the label of your skinny jeans.
Polo shirt tucked in and top button done up. Match with loafers, no socks... natch, and a massive fake posh watch.
You'll feel right at home in sunny Brentwood ... a la Gary King.

Which is rather funny sitcom...... in places.
A STW fashionista usually dresses top to toe in crocs / rambling shoes, some sort of trouser which is not a Jean (combats/comfort fit slacks/utility shorts?) and a t-shirt with an ‘amusing’ slogan. This sort of thread is always lost on them.
Oh, and belt over (and also co-ordinating in colour with footwear), though not sure what brands do a patch which you can loop a belt under the days.
Is this a typo or a humblebrag? To have increased your waist by a solitary inch in 28 years is pretty impressive. 1 inch is almost into margin of error territory. Or did you meant you are 29 with a waist of 48… which would not be so impressive!
humblebrag, though i haven’t actually measured my waist but my trousers are 29 (if i can find them) and fit well, the 30’s are roomy and the belt keeps them from drooping.
You is a Londoner though innit, probably dressed up to the eyeballs in A.P.C, Our Legacy and Universal Works. I know the sort.
Guilty as charged 🙂 no APC or Our Legacy, but lots of universal works/YMC/Blackhorse lane/redwing/trickers etc but it goes with the territory of being a media tosspot.
no different to a badly fitting suit and scuffed pointy shoes to an IT salesperson looking the part.
I’ve no idea where this comes from, I’d say it’s my experience of airports that it’s the folk from the US that are in constant danger from naked flames.
Aye - sceptics are badly dressed n bright colours, Brits badly dressed in 50 shades of beige
if you want to go round looking like a complete berk
One cannot 'buy' style. Incidentally, I'm also still a 32' waist @ 43 same as I was 20 years ago. 🙂
no different to a badly fitting suit and scuffed pointy shoes to an IT salesperson looking the part.
I take exception to that. I wear neither a suit or pointed shoes.
One cannot ‘buy’ style.
You’re a shoplifter?
Under the patch. Anyone who says different is a pervert.
In international airports you can always spot the brit. They are the badly dressed ones.
You’ve never been to Germany then?
Aye – sceptics are badly dressed n bright colours, Brits badly dressed in 50 shades of beige
Only the ones who don’t wear jeans.
Belts - so 20-30s , for the over 50s braces under a comfy cardy .
Your belt must surely have a huge pot metal buckle as well to go with your cowboy jeans? Preferably with longhorns on it or some dodgy slogan
Preferably with longhorns on it or some dodgy slogan
Jumpy not grumpy.
It doesn’t matter because any top you wear with jeans should be untucked. If it isn’t you will look like Jeremy Clarkson, his tiny friend with the goatee or the one with the stupid hair. You might not think this is how you’ll look, but you’d be wrong.
It doesn’t matter because any top you wear with jeans should be untucked
No way,need to have the buckle on show .

It doesn’t matter because any top you wear with jeans should be untucked. If it isn’t you will look like Jeremy Clarkson, his tiny friend with the goatee or the one with the stupid hair. You might not think this is how you’ll look, but you’d be wrong.
As opposed to untucked, and looking like a year 8 school kid being rebellious.
Do you also have your wallet on a chain clipped to the belt loops and a Korn patch on your rucksac?