The cars are back out. . .
Cars are on track - hopefully that's the end of the drama.
Bonus is I can have it on at work! 🙂
This isn’t exactly an instance where the other teams would be up in arms about it
There are millions of dollars in prizemoney at stake for the constructor's championship standings. Other teams don't give a shit about what's fair, they'll protest if there's money at stake.
Yet another POV of the incident:
I've long though F1 is a boring procession, with the speed and risk rarely being visisble to a layperson. But that video really shows the energies at play. Wow.
I'm (somewhat) sure there was a (somewhat) good reason that the fans had to leave, but really? Let them sit there in the cold the entire time then turf them out right as it starts?
The disrespect that F1 shows for its fans sometimes is quite remarkable.
That's a slap in the face, and if F1 try and wriggle out of refunds they'll have empty stands next year too.
From reports I'd read there was a 4am curfew when track action had to end. If it was a staff isssue all staff should have been contracted to be on site until end of proceedings.
There are millions of dollars in prizemoney at stake for the constructor’s championship standings. Other teams don’t give a shit about what’s fair, they’ll protest if there’s money at stake.
Thats why you’d get their buy-in up front. Anyone that said “no” is going to come out of it looking really crap
There are millions of dollars in prizemoney at stake for the constructor’s championship standings.
I'm not sure the prize-money bothers them any more. Under the cost-cap they are spending a fraction of what they used to and are making profits now, not losses.
F1 teams [i]never[/i] made profits! 🙂
Anyway Ferrari look like they'll be quick both in race trim and in quali. Wonder how they will screw this one up?
Anyway Ferrari look like they’ll be quick both in race trim and in quali. Wonder how they will screw this one up?
Sainz has a 10 place penalty for taking a new battery, so that won't help!
Wonder how they will screw this one up?
Ferrari Engineer "We are considering Plan D, E or F"
I’m (somewhat) sure there was a (somewhat) good reason that the fans had to leave, but really? Let them sit there in the cold the entire time then turf them out right as it starts?
I gather it was because the security personnel were at the limit of their working hours. That's what happens when you prioritize workers' rights over corporate profits.
Watching Alonso onboard down that straight was amazing.
Such a shame Sainz got that penalty, Sky were saying they stewards were doing everything they could to try and avoid it
Who's this new guy that Williams put in the second car? He seems quick. Glad to see the last of the hopeless clown they had before.
Bye bye McClaren in qualifying
Bye bye McClaren in qualifying
Ricciardo must be grinning at making Q2, but Tsunoda and both McLarens getting knocked out.
Bye bye Checo and Lewis
Bye Ricciardo
So, nine teams agreed to let it slide but one team refused? Mercedes are 20 points ahead of Ferrari in the constructors' championship. Let's face it, no team on the grid would agree to let a rival escape a penalty with that amount of money at stake, especially Red Bull and Ferrari.
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1725896964460409314
I'm with Max on that one.
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So, nine teams agreed to let it slide but one team refused? Mercedes are 20 points ahead of Ferrari in the constructors’ championship. Let’s face it, no team on the grid would agree to let a rival escape a penalty with that amount of money at stake, especially Red Bull and Ferrari.
Agree and agree with max. However I have read that the reports saying Mercedes blocked it are incorrect.
Mercedes said they would have tried to block the waiving of the penalty if it was possible to do so, not that they did block it.
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Agree and agree with max. However I have read that the reports saying Mercedes blocked it are incorrect.
Mercedes said they would have tried to block the waiving of the penalty if it was possible to do so, not that they did block it.
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This is what they were saying on Sky also
P7 I meant!
I think it’s time to end Martin’s grid walk - it was good when he was talking to team members and drivers. But I’ve no interest in this stream of nobodys.
Anyway - a prediction…
LeClerc will get tagging at the end of the pit straight - end up in the wall at turn 1 - then we’ll have a red flag as there’s no run-off at turn 1! 🤷♂️🤣
Thankfully Lando is OK - but another tyre comes free from the wheel. Seems to be a big issue with these 18” rims.
Yep, an absolute joke. Back to his old send it up the inside and let the other driver avoid contact tactics.
Well - plenty of action even if you don’t like the razzmatazz! 🤣
Did Max just overtake Ocon at the pit exit during the safety car. Ocon already on track - Max coming out.
Could be an interesting last 20 laps.
Was Ocon caught napping as Max exited after his pitstop? Looked like he could have come out in front but Max nipped in front.
I was hoping LeClerc was just looking after his tyres - appears not. 🙁
Good race - enjoyed that.
Great overtake by Leclerc on Perez.
Good race, worth the early start!
Great drive by Charles.
Ferrari now just 4pts behind merc in the constructors!
Good race – enjoyed that.
Good race, worth the early start!
Ultimately, whether the event succeeds commercially was always going to rest on whether it provided good racing. I think the teething troubles from the first practice will be completely forgotten and everyone will remember an exciting and unpredictable race. That's a good thing for the sport.
Ferrari now just 4pts behind merc in the constructors!
Feels like they have the momentum, too
I've ignored the comments, as I'm watching the replay much later, but I'm dismayed at Verstappens bullying tactics and contempt for the penalties, what an ugly arrogant character he is.
Not sure if it was here or elsewhere on YouTube, but there's an analysis of his overtaking style which is to bully the opponent to the outside of a corner off the line so they are forced to concede. It may be within the rules, but its insecure man school bully type stuff. Horner & Verstappen are so much match for each other.
It may be within the rules, but its insecure man school bully type stuff.
Much as I hate to admit it, it’s what Senna did. ‘I’m putting my car here and carrying on regardless, it’s up to you if we crash’.
And whilst I’m far from a Max fan, that one looked like a turn 1 mistake to me, rather than a deliberate run off the road.
