nickc
Full MemberYeah, I think the interest is going to come from the fact that Perez seems to be able to drive this one just as fast as Verstappen this year. A proper rivalry between those two will pull that team apart.
Lol, did you see Jos at the end? everyones high-fiving and congratulating checo, he's just standing there like a lemon
The alonso penalty being overturned is a strange one. I've always thought the rule was that you must not touch the car at all, guess that needs to be written into the rules now. But anyway I'm glad he kept his podium after all.
Hope another team makes progress cos it's looking like a red bull flavoured washout otherwise. 😑
did you see Jos at the end? everyones high-fiving and congratulating checo, he’s just standing there like a lemon
Standing there like a lemon means that he's learned some self control, getting a punching is what you risk if you piss him off.
Jos and Max cut from the same cloth, neither of them have the graciousness to be happy for someone else.
I’ve always thought the rule was that you must not touch the car at all
I think the accepted "rule" was that you could put the front jack on the car as a safety thing, but it turns out that the rules don't specify which jack, so AM - with a podium at stake put in a complaint, apparently had 7 video and times when rear/front jacks had been touching, turns out that they were right, the rules don't say, and as they had loads of evidence, they got the place back.
neither of them have the graciousness to be happy for someone else.
There's an obvious argument that you want your no1 driver to be unhappy with 2nd place. But there's a streak in Verstappen that's just on the wrong side of "what's best for the team, vs what's best for me" that puts unnecessary strain on a team that has a history of not being able to manage it's drivers very well. If Perez keeps it up, it's going to be a matter of when not if that it comes spilling out. It'll be messy I reckon
neither of them have the graciousness to be happy for someone else.
DRS needs to go. That was embarrassing to watch. There wasn't even any pretence at "overtaking" from MV it was just pull out an drive by.
Checo a bit naïve to think that Max wouldn't nail it on the final lap though for the bonus point, especially after they'd both ignored the delta time request.
dooosuk
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Checco a bit naïve to think that Max wouldn’t nail it on the final lap though for the bonus point, especially after they’d both ignored the delta time request be a d!ck as usual.
Entirely understandable that Max went for the fastest lap point but it was pretty risky considering he'd been reporting strange noises from the engine/gearbox/whatever.
I'd want my driver to be not happy with second if P1 was a rival team but on race 2 of the season when the other car is also your team I'd be unhappy.
But Horner/Max/Jos 🤷♂️
Checo a bit naïve to think that Max wouldn’t nail it on the final lap though for the bonus point, especially after they’d both ignored the delta time request.
Pretty sure I read he went for it too but stuffed up sector one and cruised home.
reporting strange noises from the engine/gearbox/whatever
They (the drivers) were reportedly making unhappy noises about the cars transmission reliability in Bahrain as well. I think both drivers have said that had they needed to push super hard - say; like you'd do in qualifying, they'd likely as not failed to finish.
There's something not quite right in the car anyway.
There’s something not quite right in the car anyway.
My suspicion is that they pushed the packaging of the rear suspension and gearbox very aggressively for aerodynamic benefit. If that is the case, it won't be a simple thing to fix and they may end up with multiple gearbox change penalties.
My suspicion is that they pushed the packaging of the rear suspension and gearbox very aggressively for aerodynamic benefit. If that is the case, it won’t be a simple thing to fix and they may end up with multiple gearbox change penalties
Adrian Newey has previous history of doing just this, I remember the Red Bulls struggling with overheating during their previous hey day because the rear of the car was shrink wrapped so hard to benefit the aero
DRS needs to go. That was embarrassing to watch. There wasn’t even any pretence at “overtaking” from MV it was just pull out an drive by.
It differs from track to track of course, but now that it's easier for cars to follow it def doesn't feel as necessary as it used to be. Hopefully it's under review!
If Perez keeps it up, it’s going to be a matter of when not if that it comes spilling out. It’ll be messy I reckon
Hope so!
Hope another team makes progress cos it’s looking like a red bull flavoured washout otherwise. 😑
That's how it looks to me too
they may end up with multiple gearbox change penalties
And as we saw this weekend they will probably still finish on the podium even if they start from the pit lane. At the moment that car is so much quicker than the rest of the field that they don't have to worry too much about the odd penalty because their bad weekends won't be that bad and will be offset by the rest of the good weekends. (as long as they can manage any in-race problems of course)
I wonder if Max would have made it to 2nd if there was no DRS. There may have been more robust defence from some drivers, rather than just accepting it's a done deal so why bother defending at all.
And as we saw this weekend they will probably still finish on the podium even if they start from the pit lane. At the moment that car is so much quicker than the rest of the field that they don’t have to worry too much about the odd penalty because their bad weekends won’t be that bad and will be offset by the rest of the good weekends.
It'll depend on the circuits where they have to take penalties. Monaco or Hungary probably won't give RB the same huge advantage, for example. The RB seems to generate very efficient downforce, so they take care of their tyres but also have good straight line speed. Aston Martin went for downforce, so they are easy on tyres but lack speed. Merc and Ferrari went the other way. At slow circuits, it'll just come down to cranking on downforce, straight line speed won't matter, but having a fragile transmission will cost lap time if drivers have to avoid curbs to stop the gearbox exploding.
Thanks 🤣 Can't un see that now!!
Photoshop, surely?!?
Oh god that's horrific
Nico was known Britney.
Henceforth Max should be known as Jackie.
Hope this gets picked up in the paddock! 🙂
Nico was known Britney.
Henceforth Max should be known as Jackie.
Hope this gets picked up in the paddock! 🙂
Someone needs to tell Mark Webber
So fewer practice sessions are the topic this weekend - to be replaced by whatever convoluted wacky races points winning thing they come up with.
I don't mind practice sessions as you can dip in and out as time allows. Add points into the mix and it becomes another thing fighting for your viewing time.
So with 23 races already + another 23 points events + 23 qualifying sessions = a LOT of commitment from fans. To me it devalues the sport even more.
the-muffin-man
Full MemberSo fewer practice sessions are the topic this weekend – to be replaced by whatever convoluted wacky races points winning thing they come up with.
I don’t mind practice sessions as you can dip in and out as time allows. Add points into the mix and it becomes another thing fighting for your viewing time.
So with 23 races already + another 23 points events + 23 qualifying sessions = a LOT of commitment from fans. To me it devalues the sport even more.
lol, how long till we get F1 playoffs.
It's starting to remind me of the "football football football" sketch on Mitchell and Webb.
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Less practice? They should bring back unlimited in season testing as long as it is within the cost cap. Give the fans something extra to follow
FFS!… 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Hamilton 2nd in FP1, but still half a second behind Verstappen
The alonso penalty being overturned is a strange one. I’ve always thought the rule was that you must not touch the car at all
Without reading the actual regs I think there was some ambiguity between must not touch or must not work on being interpreted as must not touch.
I'm glad it was overturned just from the point Alonso took the first penalty graciously and drove his socks off, the second penalty would have been for something that didn't gain advantage from anyway.
My understanding of the Alonso penalty was that it was normal practice to position the rear (?) jack, but they had to wait for the penalty to expire before actually activating the jack. However, there is apparently no rule stipulating that different jacks are treated differently, so if a rear jack is ok, then a front one should also be ok. Something like that, the way the rule was being enforced didn't really make sense so it was overturned.
I thought the rules state the car must not be touched, but there has been a gentleman's agreement that the (front) jack may touch the car as they use this to guide the car into the correct position in the box. Nobody had ever agreed or disagreed whether this also applied to the rear jack, as the agreement just mentioned jack.
Ah, yes, that's it. The front jack was used to guide the car, so it's not illegal for a jack to touch the car.
Regarding penalties & working on the car, they've (the FIA, I suppose) now stated that there must be no contact with the car until the penalty is served.
I read it on the BBC summary of free practice.
shermer75
Hamilton 2nd in FP1, but still half a second behind Verstappen
Not sure you can read too much into that, as it sounded like the practice session was quite disjointed with multiple issues.
Good article on driver positioning - Lewis has been having a chunter about this of late...
https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-on-hamiltons-cockpit-position-discontent/
Merc 2nd and 3rd on the grid? Blimey!
****s sake Perez.
He’s already been given the boot - Danny Ric has been talking about a comeback with a top team being his only option. Doesn’t take a genius to work out which team that is!
Cracking performance from Albion again - the new Mr Saturday. 😀
He’s already been given the boot
I'd be very surprised if they've ditched Checo
Merc 2nd and 3rd on the grid? Blimey!
Check the date, eddie 😁
Don't do that to me!
