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Impressive knowledge there @thols2

What's the most successful team that isn't on the grid anymore?

Lotus probably?

From the modern era is probably Toyota


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 2:39 pm
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What’s the most successful team that isn’t on the grid anymore?

Lotus probably?

Or maybe Brabham. It's easy to forget how many once dominant teams disappeared.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 2:47 pm
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According to Wikipedia it's Lotus with 79 wins - Brabham had 35 wins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_constructors


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 2:56 pm
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Williams have cancelled the livery unveiling after their app was 'hacked' (i.e. somebody dumped the assets from it and posted them on Reddit).


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 2:57 pm
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Shite - even CAD models as well according to this tweet!...

https://twitter.com/Ste_Rumbelow/status/1367767507004760067


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:00 pm
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Shite – even CAD models as well according to this tweet!…

Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:07 pm
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Sponsors - out, Stripes - in!

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Look like they need to take a leaf out of Hispania Racings 'how to get sponsors' manual!...

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Posted : 05/03/2021 3:09 pm
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Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.

🤣🤣🤣


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:11 pm
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I bet the beardy-weirdy from $hit Energy would buy them - got to have a starting point for his fictitious F1 team.....


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:15 pm
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According to Wikipedia it’s Lotus with 79 wins – Brabham had 35 wins.

I'm not that familiar with the 1950s F1, but the original Mercedes team was massively dominant until they withdrew after a horrific crash and didn't compete for decades. Fangio was the Senna/Schumacher/Hamilton of that era - dominant driver in the best car.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:16 pm
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edit- hadn't refreshed, already covered above 🙂

beardy logothief is not on there, so that must mean ... rich energy ferrari ?! 🤔 😂


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:50 pm
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Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.

Nah it was a poor car last year but there have been far worse - I remember turning up early on the Friday of the British GP and watching the likes of Life and Andrea Moda attempt (and usually fail) to pre qualify. And back then Williams were fighting for pole...


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 3:59 pm
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I bet the beardy-weirdy from $hit Energy would buy them – got to have a starting point for his fictitious F1 team…..

This is where hyphenation is important. If it's a fictitious F1-team, that's a different thing than a fictitious-F1 team. I wouldn't put him past it to turn up with the latter.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 4:01 pm
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I’m not that familiar with the 1950s F1, but the original Mercedes team was massively dominant until they withdrew after a horrific crash and didn’t compete for decades.

They only won nine races in that period over two championships. Still great but not overly dominant.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 4:09 pm
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How many races were there? 😉 There was nothing to touch them - only way they wouldn't win was if something went wrong.

Edit - a quick wiki says 9 wins from 12 races and both titles over the two years it competed.

Frank William’s ran some customer teams before setting up his own with his name on it...

He had two of those - the first one, he went into partnership with Walter Wolf but that didn't work out and Wolf took over the team WGPE was his second solo effort.


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 4:26 pm
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Hell yeah!


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 7:49 pm
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Used to have a pair of Wolf Scalextric cars, they were ace 🙂


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 7:49 pm
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They were a badass-looking car. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/03/2021 9:16 pm
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Wolf? How about Eagle?

Eagle


 
Posted : 06/03/2021 12:27 am
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Great livery for the new F1 Safety Car and Medical Car (well at 12 of this years races anyway.)


 
Posted : 07/03/2021 1:01 pm
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This is a good read:
Minardi's miraculous rebirth

Shows how dire things were when Paul Stoddard took over - and the effort getting to the grid.


 
Posted : 07/03/2021 1:18 pm
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Good grief, whoever designed the new Ferrari livery needs a slap. Scarlet fading to some sort of shade of piles, with an eye-bleeding slash of bright green on top of it. Are they sponsored by some brand of migraine pills?


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 3:13 pm
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Oh dear, that is indeed boggin'!


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 3:33 pm
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The darker red on the rear wing looks like the exhaust’s blown oil all over it, maybe it’s to disguise the workings of their new power unit 🙂


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 3:36 pm
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Yikes. That's not pretty.


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 4:14 pm
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Is that a different dark (non-purpley) red around the cock-pit area too?  Is this meant to be "Ferrari reds through the ages" or something? And the nearly-neon green is totally gopping....


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 4:46 pm
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I genuinely have no idea what must have been going through their heads. I thought the Williams livery was crap but this surely wins the prize for this year’s worst livery (if you ignore the Formula Kremlin entry).

Alpine has to be the best livery this year by some margin, I think. McLaren, Red Bull and Aston Martin are all decent enough, the Alfa Romeo is ok… the rest? Nah.


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 6:16 pm
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s this meant to be “Ferrari reds through the ages”

Yes. https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-two-tone-livery-sf21/

The green bit is the Mission Winnow logo.


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 7:05 pm
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Yikes. That’s not pretty.

None of the current breed of F1 cars can be remotely described as being aesthetically inoffensive. Wheelbases are measured in time zones, the cars (especially this Ferrari) resemble Groucho Marx from the front aspect, weird protuberances abound.

I know that we'll never see a Jordan 191 or Ferrari 640 again and that aero performance and chassis stability must trump aesthetics, but frankly every single car on the grid absolutely munts.

Giorgetto Giugiaro's reaction upon seeing the Triumph TR7 is pretty much how I feel about F1 cars.


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 8:35 pm
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Formula Kremlin

Lol!


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 8:44 pm
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frankly every single car on the grid absolutely munts.

yeah

hopefully the '22 cars are an improvement and not another dicknose era fiasco.


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 10:28 pm
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Apparently the green MW logo was a late addition. Not sure if it will stay as they had to remove it last year didn't they?


 
Posted : 10/03/2021 10:46 pm
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I expect to see Dick Dastardly & Muttley get out of that Ferrari.


 
Posted : 11/03/2021 1:16 am
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-explains-amazon-talks-over-tv-rights-and-streaming/5686492/

Interesting, we might see F1 on Amazon prime this year.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 12:16 am
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Might be good, had the F1 channel cheap last year but got rid of SKY this year as I didn't want to pay for loads of TV I don't watch for the little I do watch.
Was going to go back to C4 and Now TV for races I want to watch live.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 12:31 am
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Might be good

Have you not watched the Rugby that Amazon broadcast? It was of awful quality with many non intentional breaks in the program. NowTV is at least continuous coverage.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 8:43 am
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Sky's current contract prevents F1 offering its own streaming service to the UK and the article suggests the same would apply to Amazon so don't get your hopes up yet. We're not rid of Sky until 24 (at the earliest)

Anyhow, testing is go! (go! go! as Murray would say)

I predict Merc to look slow, Ferrari to look quick and some unexpected midfield team to be quickest overall.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 8:48 am
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Who will be slowest in testing ?
I wouldn't be surprised if its Haas this year and not Williams at the back.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 9:40 am
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Nailed on certainty. They've not developed their car much, if at all, over winter. And plan no major upgrades this season.

Williams have and a large chunk of cash chucked into them and new owners are saying the right words about getting back to the pointy end.

And last years Williams was a decent step-up from their 2019 car.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 10:05 am
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The alpha's white wheels remind me of an 80's Fiesta with XR2 bits bolted to it


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 11:54 am
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Honda power looking good from the first session… let’s see if that holds up once Merc get on top of the gremlins. Bet Ricciardo’s got a grin under the mask though 🙂


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 11:56 am
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Renault Alpine looks no better out on the track!

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Aston looks near identical to Merc on track when seen from the front as the green looks black.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 12:25 pm
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A lot of rake on the Ferrari.


 
Posted : 12/03/2021 2:01 pm
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Liking the so called 'lasagne floor' on the merc. The innovation from them every year is unreal.
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Posted : 12/03/2021 4:25 pm
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Some nice arty shots today...

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https://www.racefans.net/2021/03/12/2021-pre-season-testing-day-one-in-pictures-02/


 
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