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Verstappen over the radio “that’s what you get for leaving no room” then just ****s off leaving Hamilton under his car. Nice


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:00 pm
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How come everyone else can race, overtake, give enough space, yet the two best drivers in the world can’t?

They both need to wind their necks in a bit.

Is what the stewards should say to both of them


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:01 pm
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then just ****s off leaving Hamilton under his car.

Very disrespectful 😉


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:02 pm
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🤣 indeed


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:04 pm
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Perez has a five second penalty - unless he can get past both McLarens and build a comfortable gap, he's screwed.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:06 pm
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And Mazepin has a five second penalty for punting Schumacher into a spin. That'll go down well in the team debrief.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:07 pm
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Edit: Beaten by seconds.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:08 pm
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Mazepin is out - looks like a PU issue? He won't be missed in the remainder of this race.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:13 pm
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It's fantastic to see Ricciardo finally get to grips with that McLaren, he's led on merit.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:20 pm
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Aye I’m absolutely delighted for Ricciardo and McLaren but I’m still bouncing about that incident with Hamilton and Verstappen. Been shouting at the telly like a lunatic


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:22 pm
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Time for a shoey


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:24 pm
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Get in!


 
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Posted : 12/09/2021 4:26 pm
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Great stuff. Loving the slap on the arse for Zac! 😂
Forgot about shoeys it’s been that long


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 4:31 pm
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That was a good race once the willy wavers cleared off.

My cousin drives for McLaren, they'll be happy this evening.

(He's a HGV driver and he's one of the guys that transport everything from place to place for them)


 
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Posted : 12/09/2021 4:38 pm
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If Max is a handful of points ahead going into the final race of the season, this feels like it might go a bit Senna/Prost...

Mega from McLaren today though.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:03 pm
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Given RB were looking at this weekend as damage limitation they’ll be reasonably pleased with extending the lead in the drivers championship and probably accepting of the constructors situation.

Assuming the stewards aren’t still trying to work out how many penalties ought to be applied.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:06 pm
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Interesting watching the interviews with Lewis/Toto and Max/Christian. RB coming across badly IMO. Max especially was not very consistent in his responses, was all over the place and talked for too long where Lewis put his point across concisely and that was it. Damon Hill was spot on, either a professional foul or error of judgment. He was probably still fuming after the slow stop. He’s hot headed at the best of times.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:07 pm
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Assuming the stewards aren’t still trying to work out how many penalties ought to be applied.

Verstappen is probably going to take a new engine next race anyway so penalties won't really bother him.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:12 pm
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Di Resta saying racing incident. Herbert and Hill both saying Max could have (and should have) avoided. Needless to say I’ve been calling Di Resta worse than a pick pocket


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:42 pm
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3 place grid penalty for Verstappen

https://www.racefans.net/2021/09/12/verstappen-given-three-place-grid-penalty-for-hamilton-crash/


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 6:52 pm
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Good. He deserves it. I’d like to think it’ll get him to wind his neck in but I doubt it..


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 7:03 pm
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As if.....It'll just fuel his belief that everyone's against him.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 7:05 pm
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Here’s a thought I just had - if MV had Toto as a team manager (or maybe another manager like the Mclcaren boss) then he would have won the WDC by now.
I think the whole RB machine is based on bravado and being tough and it isn’t helping MV at all. I don’t think Windbag is a good team boss, he isn’t the full package like Toto is at all.

Personally I hope MV lamps someone or something else heinous and gets banned for a race. Can’t stand the pompous Sid faced stress bag at all.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:01 pm
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https://www.racefans.net/2021/09/12/hamilton-surprising-verstappen-walked-off-without-checking-i-was-okay/

Love this. Wonderful dig at MV.

I guess LH and Toto didn’t need to say much after Silverstone as they knew MV would put his foot in it fairly soon.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:04 pm
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With MV entering F1 at such an early age and showing such promise I really think that he was advised to never concede a corner so in preceding years he would have built up such a reputation that everyone will get out his way. Hamilton’s now on to him!


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:17 pm
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It’s been said before but Lewis really started winning a lot when he started playing the long game. Going banzai on a corner is sometimes a great racing move, but just as much can cost you the place, the race or the championship.
If MV wants to be WDC he needs better advice. Not from Windbag, or his dad (nasty piece of work) but someone who can mentor him properly. He has skill and pace but he needs more than that if he wants to do more than win a few races.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:24 pm
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If MV wants to be WDC he needs better advice. Not from Windbag, or his dad (nasty piece of work) but someone who can mentor him properly. He has skill and pace but he needs more than that if he wants to do more than win a few races.

Agree with all this...except I think he will be WDC this year. But I think it would do him good in the long term to get away from Horner and Helmet


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:36 pm
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I wonder if Redbull have booked Albon for tomorrow?


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:44 pm
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Di Resta saying racing incident. Herbert and Hill both saying Max could have (and should have) avoided. Needless to say I’ve been calling Di Resta worse than a pick pocket

I normally have a lot of time for Di Resta but he came across as a bit of a nobber today, highly dismissive of anybody else’s point of view and refused to blame anyone else other than Hamilton.

Karen seemed to be very humble post race, not his usual aggressive self......

Brilliant to see a McLaren 1-2.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:54 pm
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Will Horner bill MV for the damage?!

There’s a budget cap now after all 😀


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:55 pm
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Verstappen is probably going to take a new engine next race anyway so penalties won’t really bother him.

This is what irks me, he takes both of them out of the race maintaining the championship lead and effectively gets away with it scot free due to engine penalties which no doubt he will take at the next race.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 9:00 pm
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What an obnoxious piece of work Verstappen is. Regardless of their history and feud, to just walk away from the scene without even a glance to see if Hamilton was OK is just so bad. What sort of man does that?


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 9:02 pm
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I notice a distinct lack of hysterics from Merc. No MV was trying to murder LH or anything - just heads down and get on with it.

Disgraceful from Max not to check in on Lewis too, even if it had been nailed on Lewis's fault, as first person out of their car he should have gone and checked.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 9:08 pm
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I notice a distinct lack of hysterics from Merc. No MV was trying to murder LH or anything - just heads down and get on with it.

Disgraceful from Max not to check in on Lewis too, even if it had been nailed on Lewis's fault, as first person out of their car he should have gone and checked.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 9:13 pm
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I'm no LH fanboy but agreed Max should have cut the chicane/yielded. Chuffed for McLaren/Danny Ric. Bottas driver of the day for me.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 9:47 pm
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Lewis seems quite smug about Max’s penalty.


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 11:21 pm
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I wpulfnhave put that at a racing incident, 70/30 Verstappen's fault. Silverstone the same but maybe 60/40 Hamilton's fault.
But as someone said above, why can everyone else do it properly?
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Also, what is it with drivers who are leaving?
Bottas had his best race of the year now he's definitely going, Giovanazi seems to have upped his game now he's probably off too. Happened to Perez last year, he was amazing after RP dropped him. Why does getting dropped seem to lead to an upturn?


 
Posted : 12/09/2021 11:43 pm
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I agree, I agree, I agree.


 
Posted : 13/09/2021 7:57 am
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Bloody thing! It told me it had a 502 Bad Gateway whatever that is


 
Posted : 13/09/2021 7:59 am
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why can everyone else do it properly?

They can't, there has been many more collisions than the two involving Lewis and Max.


 
Posted : 13/09/2021 8:26 am
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Both of them have made a career out of giving opponents the choice of be overtaken or crash - Hamilton less so now than when younger but he still has done it

Purely inevitable and both as bad

I do laugh at the way Hamilton can do no wrong for so many on here when he is equally ruthless


 
Posted : 13/09/2021 8:30 am
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Max has shown what a total turd he is by saying over the radio that's what you get if you dont leave enough room, then just walking off without checking on Lewis after landing on top of him, totally disgusting, imagine Horner's reaction if the roles were reversed. Max is a sociopath who thinks he's entitled to every corner, Lewis's actions on the first lap to avoid a collision helped the stewards realise what Max is.


 
Posted : 13/09/2021 8:36 am
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Hamilton spent the whole race taking caution on the overtake, more than many others in fact. As the ruling shows the views was that - like others who’d set the precedent - Verstappen took the choice to continue to turn in rather than cut the corner an concede.

Lewis continues with “hard but fair” whereas Verstappen continues with “unrelenting and entitled”.


 
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