Forum search & shortcuts

F1 2021 - spoilers ...
 

[Closed] F1 2021 - spoilers here

Posts: 12378
Full Member
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Just tuned in.

Is this some kind of pre race warm up/sighting laps?

Perez out already!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 2:30 pm
Posts: 12378
Full Member
 


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 2:32 pm
Posts: 35100
Full Member
 

I don't think this race should go ahead, it looks too dangerous.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:30 pm
Posts: 1905
Free Member
 

Conditions are awful.. not sure there’s going to be race at all if it doesn’t improve a lot.. and quickly!

Verstappen keeps saying it’s fine.. aye I’m sure it is at the front when you haven’t got multiple rooster tails making it driving through pea soup!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:34 pm
Posts: 20670
Full Member
 

I reckon it'll get to about 4pm (UK time) before they finally call it off altogether.

Wonder what that does in terms of "results" - completely void or do they take the qualifying position?


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:38 pm
Posts: 1905
Free Member
 

They’re just talking about that now. Need to have completed two laps minimum for points scoring. 75% race distance for full points. So as it stands no points if it doesn’t go ahead.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:45 pm
Posts: 1905
Free Member
 

Fascinating conversation between the race director and RB about getting Perez into the race. They’ve been told No you can’t get him in the race as he was assisted mechanically back to the pits by the truck but RB arguing that the race itself has not started


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:48 pm
 Pook
Posts: 12698
Full Member
Topic starter
 

I'm with RB on this. Get him in.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:52 pm
Posts: 1905
Free Member
 

Aye agreed. Get him in the race. If it happens at all!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:55 pm
Posts: 20670
Full Member
 

A friend of mine is just over the border in Germany on a bikepacking tour. She's binned it off for today saying conditions are just atrocious, some of the worst she's ever encountered. It's basically the same weather that's over Spa...


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 3:58 pm
Posts: 35100
Full Member
 

Set to rain heavily for the next half hour at least... My guess is they'll aim for for half race distance (20 laps or so) and half points.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 4:03 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Reminds me of Canada 2011.

Can’t see it starting at this rate.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 4:03 pm
Posts: 20670
Full Member
 

Seems they've just decided that Perez can start if they can fix his car.

After a lot of back and forth, it also seems that the race has technically started, the 3hr race window has started. The rules bit is actually quite interesting!

I'm wondering how Perez can start when technically the race is underway? Surely he's joining a lap down as he didn't do the formation laps?


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 4:16 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

If Perez is allowed to join the race, shouldn’t he be down the amount of laps already ‘raced’?


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 4:26 pm
Posts: 12378
Full Member
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

this is a shit show, rules out the window willy nilly


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 5:06 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

this is going to be carnage.... the track looks no different to 2 hours ago. (whats the betting it will last just 2 laps!)


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:09 pm
Posts: 13812
Full Member
 

they'll do a few laps behind SC and call it done and give out half points


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:11 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

this is nonsense, absolutely no different to 2 hours ago!!!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:19 pm
Posts: 13812
Full Member
 

thats that then


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:27 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

pathetic


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:28 pm
Posts: 24440
Full Member
 

Safety first, too risky in those conditions


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:30 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

the pathetic part is running for 2 laps behind the the safety car to get a "result" when the conditions are worst than 2 hours ago.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Bored now. And that’s after a Sunday roast in a cosy house.

Feel for the fans there, going to be fun getting out of the car parks after the race today.

Will be nice to see George on the podium (if it happens).


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:35 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

absolute ****ing nonsense.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:43 pm
Posts: 27603
Free Member
 

I'd rather see that happen than risk the drivers safety for our entertainment. On to the next one.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:51 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

why have the rule ? just award the half points no need for a 2 lap procession behind the safety car bollox and a much safer for everyone.....


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:56 pm
Posts: 3422
Free Member
 

I’d rather see that happen than risk the drivers safety for our entertainment. On to the next one.

I'd rather they had the guts to cancel it when it was obvious that a race couldn't happen, rather than that farce.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 6:57 pm
Posts: 1069
Free Member
 

What a load of old crap. Should have just cancelled and gone home.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 7:02 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

as sobriety said farcical, need to change the rule to "racing laps" ie laps behind a safety car don't count to prevent this kind of contrived faux result. That is now a win for Vestappen in the record books for christ sake! And a ****ing podium so ****ing embarrassing there is there no shame with these people ?


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 7:10 pm
Posts: 734
Free Member
 

Agreed! The 2 laps thing is utterly stupid!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 7:37 pm
Posts: 3422
Free Member
 

I think it also means that fans at the trackside can't get refunds, as a race happened as the results were declared.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 7:43 pm
Posts: 20670
Full Member
 

I got bored at about 4.45pm (having been doing stuff round the house anyway while waiting for anything to happen) and went out for a ride. Seems like I did the right thing, I'd have been very annoyed if I'd have sat watching that all afternoon!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 9:22 pm
Posts: 17336
Full Member
 

Should have cancelled. And yes I’m sure it was entirely financial.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 9:23 pm
Posts: 1069
Free Member
 

It sort of sums up F1.... great cars, talented drivers, great specacle (sometimes)....

but sort of pretty rotten at the centre.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 9:38 pm
Posts: 3008
Full Member
 

Absolute farce!


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 9:53 pm
Posts: 2873
Free Member
 

I paid €90 to get in to Spa in 2016 & we were thinking of going again next year but today has guaranteed we'll never go there again.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 10:09 pm
Posts: 1089
Free Member
 

Anyone who paid to get into Spa today should be offered free entry for next year IMO. That said I understand why it was cancelled, just glad I dont have Sky Sports and wasted half my sunday watching it.


 
Posted : 29/08/2021 11:48 pm
Posts: 9206
Full Member
 

Agree with refunds, but that needs to come out of the FIA's pocket.


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 12:31 am
Posts: 12378
Full Member
 

So who got the bonus point for fastest lap?


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 1:23 am
Posts: 3351
Free Member
 

I feel sorry for anyone at the race, fourteen kilometres behind a safety car is not a Grand Prix. Should've been run tomorrow.


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 1:39 am
Posts: 9108
Free Member
 

So who got the bonus point for fastest lap?

No one.
Bizarrely Mazzapin has the FL, which will forever be recorded on his career stats, but he didn't get a top ten finish so no point for him.


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 3:36 am
Posts: 20986
 

Should’ve been run tomorrow.

A lot of the marshalls wouldn’t have been able to make tomorrow at short notice, they’d be at their day jobs (it’s not a bank hol in Belgium tomorrow).


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 3:41 am
Posts: 12378
Full Member
 

Bizarrely Mazzapin has the FL, which will forever be recorded on his career stats

LMAO. I still think the Indy debacle back in 2005(?) was worse because it was pretty much deliberate, but this is the second most FU thing I've seen. Just total amateur hour.

With hindsight, I think they should have just run three laps behind the safety car at the start (or just a few laps under a yellow flag, as Gary Anderson says) then stopped the race and announced that they would just award half points for the starting order if they couldn't restart the race. That way, it would have been clear all along what was going to happen instead of pretending they were going to have a race.

I know a lot of people are saying they shouldn't have awarded points because there was no race, but I think awarding half-points for starting order when it is impossible to race is reasonable. Some drivers nailed it (Russell and Verstappen, obviously), others didn't (Norris and Perez). The ones who nailed it deserve something to show for that effort. Just be transparent about what's really happening instead of pretending there was a race.


 
Posted : 30/08/2021 4:06 am
Page 50 / 119