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Mercedes would be below Ferrari, too.
Ferrari might not even view him that dimly either, seeing as his successor hasn’t fared better, albeit for slightly opposing reasons: Alonso didn’t seem to help them build a winning car, but he came close to winning championships with an inferior one; Vettel has helped build a more competitive car, but then has failed to do much with it.
Will Buxton on the black and white flag:
"The ‘conduct’ flag is not a replacement for penalties. It’s not even issued by the same office. It’s not making legal what was illegal. It’s not changing the rules. And it certainly isn’t giving carte blanche to racers to run into each other which, while we’re at it, has to be one of the silliest fears I’ve yet seen."
Taxi for Mr Palmer… 🙂
“The ‘conduct’ flag is not a replacement for penalties. It’s not even issued by the same office. It’s not making legal what was illegal. It’s not changing the rules. And it certainly isn’t giving carte blanche to racers to run into each other which, while we’re at it, has to be one of the silliest fears I’ve yet seen.”
Taxi for Mr Palmer… 🙂
Well that's intredasting, because last week the race director himself said it was the stewards decision whether the flag or a penalty was issued:
“It’s ultimately the stewards’ decision if somebody gets penalised or the bad sportsmanship flag, but if the stewards feel there was more to it then we absolutely have the capability of issuing a penalty and that’s exactly where it sits. I think it was hard. The black-and-white was issued for the reason it was there. It’s quite simple for me and a carbon copy of what Pierre [Gasly] did last weekend in Spa. It achieved its purpose.”
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.fia-explain-use-of-f1s-yellow-card-for-leclerc-at-monza.43RcYITisZtxgpPhXn1Gye.html
Blimey, RG gets another go.
https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/19/grosjean-secures-new-haas-deal-for-2020/
Blimey indeed. Guess the sponsors must get a good return from all the shots of his car crashing.
Looks like Hulkenberg might end up out of F1 next year. Apparently he was asking for a lot of money from Haas so they turned him down.
I honestly can't believe the decision to keep those two together!
Obviously Haas know the availabilty on the driver market and what financial deals can be done, but surely there is a better option than Laurel and Hardy driving in to each other at the back of the mdifield?
Grosjean must have some compromising photos of Gene Haas to get another year in the car.
Perhaps Netflix are funding his drive to ensure guaranteed comedy gold scenes! 🙂
And he has got 10 podium finishes compared to Hulks big fat zero.
But then they've had different cars. Grosjean got nearly all of his when he was lucky enough to have a highly competitive Lotus in 2012-13, but both years he was inconsistent and was beaten soundly by Raikkonen who also managed to get race wins in both years.
Hulkenberg on the other hand has never been in a race-winning car, and only one of his team-mates has ever put the same car on the podium: Perez managed four third places at Force India. But, Perez aside, he's mostly consistently beaten his team-mates.
But Grosjean gets on ok with Magnussen…
Very surprised at the RG announcement. He seems to have gone back to being a liability these past couple of seasons and keeping him and KM together really doesn't make sense. I would have thought Hulk would be worth a shot there as he is generally a good driver and a bit unlucky to lose his place at Renault. Or Racing Point - but then daddy's not going to sacrifice his son for a decent driver and they've just signed Perez for another couple of years
Shame about Kubica - we know the car is rubbish, but he's been hugely outclassed by a Rookie.
who's in line for the Williams drive now? (if anyone actually wants it!)
Do know if Williams have anyone lined up? One of those occasions where a combination of a bit of talent and a lot of money would be handy
Nicholas Latifi - his father has bucketfulls of cash!!
Currently 2nd in F2 championship, so not a complete dobin.
Hopefully hulk to Williams then... A shame he's never had a decent car to drive.
Hulk to Alfa, Giovinazzi's had his shot and been outclassed by the grids senior citizen...
They'd have to pay Hulk though!! 🙂
Defo Lafiti to Williams. He's been doing the Friday tests at a couple of GPs and hasn't been completely out of his depth.
Hulk to Alfa isnt a bad shout - possibility of a Ferrari retainer if they need him when Vettel decides he's had enough.
Might be very interesting this weekend if the air quality doesn't improve and they have to shift the race to Monday. Bernie wouldn't have stood for such petulance from the weather!
Might be very interesting this weekend if the air quality doesn’t improve and they have to shift the race to Monday. Bernie wouldn’t have stood for such petulance from the weather!
Went to the bbc website to see if there was anything about this, saw a section header “Poor air quality plan...” and found it consists of:
... warning people to "reduce prolonged or strenuous outdoor physical exertion".
"Race organisers have taken measures to reduce the impact of the haze for the race weekend," an F1 spokesperson said.
"They have put in place a number of measures, including public information at the circuit."
Sounds like Bernie is still pulling the strings.
Yeah I thought Hulkenberg was a shoe-in at Haas. But, then again, money!
It's an odd choice to have an inexperienced driver team up with a rookie but I guess, well, Williams innit
Amazed to see Haas duo staying together. I’d take Hulk over Grosjean any day. Not surprised to see Kubica go, though I wish it had happened earlier, he clearly wasn’t on the pace
Leclerc on pole again, but in Singapore, who'd have thought it?
Eh, where’s the qualifying? Sky f1 appear not to have shown it?
You must of blinked and missed it, it definitely was on when i watched it
Ferrari was a surprise! they have bought some aero upgrades to Singapore
LeClerc is just whipping Vettel at the moment, every time he finds that little bit extra! Fantastic to watch, he really is lining up to be something very special indeed.
Something went wrong with Sky, it never recorded qualy (but did record all the pre grid stuff etc.) and couldn't find it on catchup, so watched highlights on c4.
Great to see dc and wibber again but they padded fpr qn hour with only about 10 mins of cars! Hope the gp records fine on sky tomorrow...
Impressive stuff from Leclerc, he's really hit his stride since the summer break. Bottas on the other hand seems to be suffering his traditional late-season decline.
Plenty of potential for fun and games tomorrow. I'm expecting Verstappen to be back in the hunt once things are underway, but the start should be interesting and if anything kicks off on the first lap (fiver on a Vettel howler?) then the McLarens should be there to mop up some positions.
Good session. Hamilton has taken some stick for overtaking Bottas but why was Bottas going so slowly? He was a good 5s back from whoever was in front and driving like a snail.
stevemuzzy
Great to see dc and wibber again but they padded fpr qn hour with only about 10 mins of cars! Hope the gp records fine on sky tomorrow…
Blame Sky for that one. Not content with throwing every fat ex-driver they can find at it, stealing the theme music and having Sky adverts on C4 during the race, they have to try and make the C4 show itself more boring. Dicks.
Re. Sky, for whatever reason my box has never series linked the F1 live race or qualifying.. which is annoying as it seems fine to series link P1, 2 & 3. It even series links the F2 races FFS but not F1 so I have to remember to manually set it to record for the weekend.. this is not just today mind but for as long as I can remember.. anyone else get this? Qually was at at normal time today tho.
LeClercs lap was absolutely superb. Really interesting mix at the pointy end of the grid tomorrow for the race. Canny wait to watch it all unfold and see if the 100% safety car record is upheld. 😬
Great to see dc and wibber again but they padded fpr qn hour with only about 10 mins of cars! Hope the gp records fine on sky tomorrow…
Blame Sky for that one.
Yep, the deal for the highlights essentially limits them to any show (qualy or race) only having a maximum of 50% track action. And that's 50% of the screen time so doesn't count ad breaks! So a 2hr qualy show only has 45 mins of action, a race show around 50 mins. I think the Sky F1 ads and a mention at the end of the qualy show are in there too. My brother-in-law occasionally works with an ex C4 Sport techie and he told me the details, it's why a lot of the analysis stuff is done away from the trackside as Sky try and make that count!
That was the most exciting qualy in ages! It's such a good season, I'm really enjoying it.
Channel 4 commentary pointed out that Leclerc now has more poles this season than any other driver, including Hamilton!!
Lets see if Verstappen and Vettel both make it through the first turn in one piece.
Lets see if Verstappen and Vettel both make it through the first turn in one piece.
Quite!
Although my enjoyment in watching Vettel struggle has finally dried up and I'm feeling a bit awkward for him now. It would be good to see him claw back some dignity over the next few races
need to can this race, rubbish circuit with rubbish racing. 3 safety cars is ridiculous
it also sounds like the ferrari have remote control over leclercs car! surely they don't randomly change the modes on the steering wheel so the driver doesn't use them!!!
it also sounds like the ferrari have remote control over leclercs car! surely they don’t randomly change the modes on the steering wheel so the driver doesn’t use them!!!
Just finished watching the Channel 4 coverage, no mention if inaccessible engine modes. What happened?
some of his radio chatter he was asking for "more" engine modes, though he was asking for permission it sounded like the he was being denied remotely.
Ok
I agree, that was a frustrating race!
It would be nice to know how much closer to Hamilton Leclerc is in terms of drivers championship points if Ferrari hadn't been holding him back this season