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JP out Alonso in for Spain!!???
I wouldn't surprised!! 🙂
Is everyone awake after a Sunday afternoon snooze!?
Bit of excitement at the end but generally a but meh.
Yep, no change in order from the first corner onwards is a bit dull. Good to see Bottas take the win though!
How have they managed to make F1 even more boring?
Yes, I don't think there was a single on track overtake all race was there? Even among the back markers.
Thought Vettel was really going to Bring the pressure, but he seemed to get from 5 secs back to 1.5 secs back in 5 laps, and then spend 10 laps only clawing back another 0.5 secs. Perhaps symptomatic of those cars really being tough to follow.
How have they managed to make F1 even more boring?
They revised the rules to suit the team that made Sebastian Vettel a four times champ.
As always,excellent insight into the race that you don't find in most write ups
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/reports/f1/2017-russian-grand-prix-report
Awful race, the overheating engines turned it from a Grand Prix into something more like a 24 hour endurance event.
That McLaren is still sh**t. How can Honda be so incapable of making a remotely competitive (or even working) engine.
nemesis,
Thanks for the link, great report. All down to a wrong weather forecast (partly!)
Exactly. A lot more to it than what you see on the face of it
Sounds like it's a done deal with Sauber using Honda engines and McLaren gearboxes next year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129258
In the FantasyF1 league, well done to Merchant Banker moving up 5 places into the lead.
Second place is SvladCjelli.
And bronze for Shermer75.
This is only the second race I've watched this year and I caught myself wondering why I was bothering. I know Sochi's not a great track and other races should be better so I'm not quite done with it yet, but there need to be some more interesting races sooner rather than later.
Sounds like it's a done deal with Sauber using Honda engines and McLaren gearboxes next year.
This sort of confirms McLaren are sticking with Honda too for 2018. I can't see them building 2 designs of gearbox, one for Honda and one for a Merc engine.
As always,excellent insight into the race that you don't find in most write upshttp://www.motorsportmagazine.com/reports/f1/2017-russian-grand-prix-report
That was actually more interesting than the race. Still fair play to Bottas
the-muffin-man - Member
This sort of confirms McLaren are sticking with Honda too for 2018. I can't see them building 2 designs of gearbox, one for Honda and one for a Merc engine.POSTED 3 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
Unless Mclaren suddenly for some reason have a load of Honda compatible gearboxes they have no use for 😛
I'm with you on that one MrSalmon. I'm losing patience with it as well. I'm paying a chunk of money every month to have SkySports and I think I'm just going to cancel it.
The lack of overtaking is making the races extremely boring. I know some tracks lend themselves more to being able to overtake but still.. The amount of aero dripping off every conceivable surface of the car is crazy.
I think I'm going to start following the superbikes to get my motorsport fix!
The lack of overtaking is making the races extremely boring.
Some of the camera work doesn't help either. There was one frequent shot of them turning on to the straight, presumably shot from the far end, and at first I wondered if it was slowed down - no sensation of speed at all.
The camera angles have always been poor at showing the sensation of speed. They seem to be chosen to show the maximum amount of advertising signage for the maximum amount of time rather than showing the dramatic changes in direction or the cars moving around.
The camera angles have always been poor at showing the sensation of speed. They seem to be chosen to show the maximum amount of advertising signage for the maximum amount of time rather than showing the dramatic changes in direction or the cars moving around
A lot of the time I think they do capture it, Russia seemed particularly poor in that respect though.
Live stream of Alono's Indycar test - if anyone wants a window open while they are working!...
Yes, I don't think there was a single on track overtake all race was there? Even among the back markers.
Only the fourth race in the history of Formula 1 to feature no overtakes after the first lap
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Live stream of Alono's Indycar test - if anyone wants a window open while they are working!...
Does this mean we can watch the race too?
This is an awesome quote!
Spanish IndyCar driver Oriol Servia says countryman Fernando Alonso's decision to skip the Monaco GP to race at the Indy 500 is like 'Bill Gates showing up at the Apple Christmas party instead of his own, because he knows it's going to be cooler'.
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Any lurkers heading over to Barcelona for the race this weekend?
Big update for Mercedes...not sure what's going on with the nose
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https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/6aka4v/craig_scarborough_massive_aero_update_to_the_w08/
Intriguing.
The Merc is a highly specialized aerodynamic package, when leading from the front in clean air it's very efficient, but clearly the aero doesn't behave anywhere near as well when the Merc is in the dirty air flowing from the Ferrari in front.
However, the solution is ingenious. Merc have gone down the radical route of attaching a SEAT hatchback to the front wing, thereby unsettling the aero flow over the car.
i think Alonso is leaving Mclaren at the end of the year. I presume Honda no longer have to pay his wages and part of the exit deal is toalow them to supply Sauber. But hey ho what do I know
My word - they've thrown the a whole warehouse full of kitchen sinks at that Merc! 😯
Alonso wasn't staying at McLaren - not a chance. I think Renault is his only real option. Why would Ferrari take him when thinks are running smoothly. He's a disruptive character.
Jordan (I know) seems to think vettel is off to merc so Ferrari would need a #1 driver. Alonso has got to go back to one of his previous teams, so why not them? Unless he [b]really[/b] burned his bridges
I've never understood why the commentators are so adamant that he won't be returning to Ferrari considering he went back to McLaren! 🙂
He also went back to Renault too so going a full ciricle.. well actually if he went to Torro rosso , that would be complete!
He will got where he thinks he can win.
cheekymonkey888 - Member
i think Alonso is leaving Mclaren at the end of the year. I presume Honda no longer have to pay his wages and part of the exit deal is toalow them to supply Sauber. But hey ho what do I knowPOSTED 11 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
I don't know. What do you know and just as importantly, how do you know whatever it is concerning Alonso? Are you his agent? Masseur? Confidante? Lover?
He will got where he thinks he can win.
He will go anywhere they will have him.
He's expensive.
He's not a team player.
You got me.. I am Aussiegrit and I'm not his Massa
He will go anywhere they will have him.
Given that he's still widely regarded as the best driver of the current crop, that'll be most of the teams then.
And given that it took just 12 mins of FP1 for his latest Honda to blow up I reckon his price will be tumbling. He'll be celebrating seeing the chequered flag this year.
With Honda embarrassing doesn't really cover it. It's just a pathetic effort.
And if Vettel is going to Merc, where is Lewis going? A few seasons with Ferrari would book-end his career nicely.
He is regarded by engineers and team bosses as a very good driver.
Regularly commentators talk of him being up there with other top drivers, so I reckon he can still command a top slot.
When he has driven crap cars he regularly finished higher up than expected (look what he did in that crap Ferrari he had a few years ago) and out raced his team mates in the same car.
So I would imagine lots of top teams would want him in a seat.
From Sky's FP1 feed...
[b]"Fernando Alonso has left the Circuit de Catalunya and returned to his hotel.
Sky F1 asked his manager if the Spaniard will return for Practice Two and got the reply "I hope so".
We will see..."[/b]
He's just tweeted pics of himself playing tennis at the hotel, so I guess FP2 depends on whether the match goes to 5 sets 😉
I've completely lost interest with what's happening at the front of the grid - I'm solely concerned with the goings on at McLaren. Whatever their mechanical troubles right now, I reckon they're absolutely dominating the F1 social media feed.
PJM1974 - Member
I've completely lost interest with what's happening at the front of the grid - I'm solely concerned with the goings on at McLaren. Whatever their mechanical troubles right now, I reckon they're absolutely dominating the F1 social media feed.
It has been quite fascinating to watch.
Sauber must be shitting bricks at this point.
He is regarded by engineers and team bosses as a very good driver.
I am in no doubt of his talent.
But...
He has been closely implicated in two of the biggest scandals of recent F1 and got away with it; dropping the team in the crap instead. That's not great on your cv.
His recent history is going to a team to turn them around and doing nothing of the sort. If anything they get worse as they move into orbit around his ego.
"Fernando is faster than you"
I bet Massa still laughs when he laps him these days.
Alonso is back for FP2, how many laps can Honda do this time?
I bet Massa still laughs when he laps him these days.
Really a 2nd rate driver plodding around mid-table, against a double world champion?
Yes.
So he will take all the little victories he can.
"Fernando ees no longer faster than me...."